How is that post not directed at me, when you quoted me and I don't have to insinuate anything bud, it clear what you've put.

I wish it was the end of July....another 4 months of this

I qouted you as you insinuated, intentionally or not that i rubbished wakeys plans and was desperate for wakey to fail by posting 'pot, kettle, black' (or words to that effect).

And the qoute does not refer to you it refers to those pathetic enough to be obsessed with constantly rubbishing the other clubs plans.

Read it again, properly.

c'mon lads, give ag a chance he's taken the club on when nobody else wanted to know,even with the knowledge we could be out of superleague.The rfl seem to be dragging there feet at every turn overseas paperwork,fit n proper persons test after all this he still gets stick.As for cas ground if uv sold wr good get on with building it then and leave us alone we've enough on.

Not the RFL's fault that, it's to do with a new business being set-up, whether a rugby league club or anything else.

I agree. Far too many people were 'in the know' when Ted was in charge. Trouble is they probably weren't in the know at all but were fed bull crap that they wanted to hear rather than the truth. Andrew Glover owns this club, he has no obligation to tell anyone anything until its concrete. Let him get on with his job of turning this once great club around, after all in the short time he's been here he's improved the club dramatically. I think it will take time for the ones who used to be part of the clique to get used things being run this way, but for me it's the right way to run things. I'm sure once everything is finalised we will be shouting it from the roof tops. Until then sit tight and put your trust in the man at the helm, I'm confident he knows what he's doing.

That

The parking is no worse than Headingley Odsal Warrington to name 3
I never have a problem parking or getting away and why do we need a pub we have bars at the club and the profit goes to the club
Belle Vue could be developed given the will and the money

All that is correct IMO.

I think Newmarket is a better option in purely business terms I have no doubt about that. However I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water where BV is concerned. I think that Ted and Di were very blinkered where BV was concerned, that said they were working under very tough financial restraints whether people like it or not. AG has far more room to move on this one.

Have to say though there is no way BV could be brought up to the standard of a new build, it's just not possible both in cost and build terms. That said it doesn't mean it wouldn't be just fine for us and RL if the RFL would be realistic and stop pretending it's a big sport rather than a well supported and much loved regional one!

As far as the decision makers at the RFL are concerned, Belle Vue will always be Belle Vue no matter how much it's tarted up. Staying at Belle Vue is admitting defeat regarding a Super League Franchise.

Think you're probably right there, it's unfortunate.

Dont think anyone is suggesting staying there any longer than getting a new build sorted out, so its important that we tidy it up to as good as possible until the time we move to better premises.

Can I just say that Newmarket very much remains Plan A and that much effort and focus is being put in to ensure a successful outcome, that we as certain as we can be, will indeed be successful. Plan B is just that and everyone hopes it is not needed but nothing is certain, but not planning for the worst would be foolish!

I think we will have updates for you very soon... watch this space!

As an aside, the quote below is from a newsletter I just received from a good contact at an Architects Practice in the area.

Whilst attention is understandably focused on the Parliamentary progress of the Localism Bill (likely to be enacted towards the end of 2011), things on the ground remain uncertain.

"One might normally commend a politician for getting on with things once in power, but in the world of planning “taking stock” is often the wiser first step.

Last summer the Government probably thought it was being very smart when it removed ‘garden land’ from the definition of previously developed land found within PPS3 ”Housing” (you can view a copy of the June 2010 version on the Communities and Local Government website). However, 9 months on, the consequences have been neither predictable nor particularly welcome (for developers and planning authorities alike). Whilst in Yorkshire and Humberside, some Councils have used these textural changes as cover for putting a stop to development comprising ‘garden grabbing’, others have sensibly sought a pragmatic accommodation enabling well designed infill proposals to secure approval. The trouble is the view of officers at some Councils would necessarily be influenced by the agenda of their political masters. If “nimbyism” holds sway, there is probably little prospect of pragmatism rather—’refuse!’ and let the Inspectorate pick up the consequences.

The trouble is this sort of policy limbo only adds to the air of uncertainty currently bedeviling the development industry."

I could not have put it better myself!

www.superleaguefans.com/castlefo ... worry.html More rumours re: 2 sides losing a place in SL.

www.superleaguefans.com/castlefo ... worry.html More rumours re: 2 sides losing a place in SL.

Not going to Barnsley is the one that really worrries me.

I think this decision has allowed Richard Wright at Cas to come clean and admit that Cas are behind schedule with their project. He now sees the battle as being a straight fight. BV v WR rather than WR/Glasshoughton v Oakwell.

Have to agree with that sentiment.

It does make you wonder if both clubs have been given the nod by the RFL that the lack of substantive progress on their respective stadia has scuppered their chances of a licence; both seem to have made statements recently that suggest their aspirations have been dialled down.

If it is still the case however that one of the two stays up, I'd be worried if I were a Cas fan; from an RFL perspective, do you go for RW and a potential continuation of his 5 years of lies about a new stadium, or a new owner at WTW, untainted by the (very similar) lies of the Richardson regime and with the personal wealth to deliver on his promises?

Either way, it's a bloody awful situation for both sets of fans and I, for one, will be glad when it's all over, whatever the outcome.

Depends on costs I guess. While we were told BV was more expensive to maintain than renting Oakwell, the new regime may have found a way to keep costs at BV down while maintaining a level of support to sustain that. All guesswork of course, but better the devil you know, as Kylie (or Sonia) said.

Where does that leave Bradford - safe - SL eh....

I think the fact Cas are already talking to NRL players and have had 7 official interest emails/faxes from coaches for next year that they're confident there's a Super League place next year.



When has RW lied? oh yeah, he hasn't...he's told everyone where the delays have come from, the fact money was there but Ben Bailey tried to pay less so they pulled out, oh and the fact the RFL love him at the minute and have actually paid him a commission for PROBOZ sponsoring the WCC and talking about sponsoring the WC in 2013.

As for Glover, he will have to go through the same things as the Widnes chairman did 3 years ago, what's to say he wont pull out tomorrow? or that he wont use any of his OWN money, in fact what makes you think he will use his own money when he's said he will run the club like a business?

The thing you should be worried about is the fact Glover has said they expect to be in the Championship next year.



Not really, most Cas fans are confident and that SL Fans article is actually wrong too, so one up one down/nobody down will happen.



Hull KR too, both have dreadful grounds - at least KR are doing improvements, unlike Bradford who have no money anymore to do anything with Odsal - they should be in the reckoning this time, if not definitely next time.

You believe any fantasy you want son of Richard Wright - but spare us your relentless propaganda as from my viewpoint thou protest to loudly.

When and where did Andrew Glover say he expected us to be in the championship next year,I must have missed that one!!