Its in bad taste imo.

this, exactly. It's just poor form all things considered.

The Bradford fans will be wishing they will have been managed like wakefield over the last few months... Alas they have not been. Though I don't think their players are now free pickings for wakefield

I get the feeling that won't be many players leaving Bradford. I think they will get some help to honour existing contracts and possibly the backroom will suffer.

Removing backroom staff wont make à dent in 400k plus this might not cure their long term problem which more than likely paying too much to team achieving nothing and not enough money coming in.

BTW for CasDave as posted on another topic sentiment is out the window for me. Too many times wé have fallen fowl of other teams. everyteam in sl is out for themselves and so should we be.

Bradford look to be in trouble. They have a 400k hole to plug, the players have rejected a 10% cut and clubs in the main have their roosters and/or salary caps full for the season.

They need to offload players quickly otherwise the 400k may increase and become problematic. As others have suggested, we've only just managed to reduce our wage bill and the Bulls players are likely to demand high wages. We must be careful to ensure we get value for money

The thread has been started by a child so he doesn't really know any better.

So are you saying, if they have a player we fancy and can afford we should not go for him ?????

Provided a deal is acceptable to both teams whats the problem.

Although I don't like taking advantage like happened to us in admin, that's not the same as people wanting players that are for sale.
In my opinion Sts, Leeds and Hull KR didn't do anything wrong as we said the players were free to go.
If Bradford make people available we would be silly not to consider them, but should only consider those that are affordable and work for us.

^^^this^^^

Forget Bradford.

Sign Goulding on for another year and sign up Ben Roberts or someone of similar quality if there is enough money. The half back position is crucial to have some creativity as well as someone who can kick and take on the line like Roberts. Think we have enough in the squad to cover wing/centre we need a man in the middle to create and dictate plays like Smith did, Sykes is a good second fiddle or foil only. He's also 33 and injury prone.

We won't win many games grinding down other SL teams down the middle even with a more impressive pack (on paper).

Is it bloody hellers like in bad taste; they're in exactly the same position we were in and I didn't see any outraged rants about vultures and cherry-picking from fans of other clubs; in fact, what I did see was some gloating and amused 'who's next?' type musings, but very little condemnation of those clubs who had come here to do a bit of early Xmas shopping.

Dave - your posts on this subject sound a touch desperate; given that we're just about the last club to finish up our recruitment for next season, I suspect a few clubs would *like* to come in for Bradford players but aren't able to - if we do, that will only increase the worry that we appear to have shaped up rather better than many of our close rivals would have liked us to.

Bradford need to shed costs, like we did - the players have been told they can talk to other clubs; it would be negligent if RA didn't at least have a look.

Aside from any players, I guess Trinity need to build up the off field team too, so if their any decent backroom staff at the Bulls who are made redundant then if possible the club should be looking to take these on.

We are in a position of relative strength now, compared to 3 months ago.
I would say, let's have a look who could fit the bill but not get too excited and giddy.
Rumour is the Gale could be off to Hull as has been mentioned earlier.
Who is a the Bulls who could be of use to us?
They have got some good players but no point signing players just because they maybe available.
We still have to find a spot for Jon Molloy!

There is no room for sentiment here. If we fancy a Bulls player and can afford him, get him and, that's exactly what may happen.

Trinity have to look out for themselves and to continue to do good business with whoever is under their radar, Bulls players or otherwise.

Maybe we should be looking at season long loans to help get who we need from Bradford, like we did with mathers. They pay half wages we pay half. We can then afford a top earner without the top wage and they get half a significant wage off the books??

What are you talking about its a fans forum you JOKER! Getting Bradfords players will help them out see it as a favour to cut their wages. No need for personal insult 3 pages people are debating. Get back to your dark room and rocking in your chair MR BORING

I think any Bradford player coming to us would expect the sort of wage that has got Bradford into trouble - and us previously. For that reason I think we should stay away.

Sigh. Don't critise someone for personal insults then proceed to insult them in the process.
You don't have a leg to stand on.

FWIW - lets keep the insults down, both. Thanks.

I'm not terrified of Wakefield's prowess now they've signed a couple of players, no. We will both win roughly the same amount of games no matter how many sub-standard players either team signs. And in reality, it can't be of an advantage to be the alst team to finish recruiting. That's just a silly notion.

I think it's poor taste, and a complete waste of a discussion. The bulls players have rejected a cut from their inflated salaries at their current club - why would they accept a pay cut from Wakefield? Or anyone else for that matter?

That's assuming MC isn't going to pay inflated and put you back in the same position again. Maybe he is, I dunno.

I really doubt that

Bradford players have been asked to take a pay cut, How do you go from this to the players that are been mentioned been on inflated wages ?

Obviously Bradford are running at costs that they cant afford, However so were we - And if our players were to reject a ten percent wage cut, would that mean the every player in the squad is on an inflated wage another club cannot afford ? - My feeling on this is that we have set out a decent amount of budget to recruit in the areas needed (Whereever this may be from)

We are starting to talk about whether we can talk about it now but it's close enough to say we are still on subject I think.

For me, no one has been having a go at the Bradford board or fans or poking fun.
But the players have been told they are free to talk to other clubs so what's the harm in speculating?
It doesn't mean they have to lose their best player, or a lot of players.

It means they are under financed, just like we were.
If they realligned the structure of the team it can work for them

They can't just let loads come on loan with half pay payments, because they still have to replace them and would be increasing costs.
The way forward is to reduce the whole wage bill (ie. the 10% cut) or to take some earners out of the list.

There will be players in that team we can afford to pay. I'm pretty certain we are not going to be able to sign Gareth Carvell or Jarrod Sammut just because they would be high earners in any team but I'm sure Adam Sidlow wouldn't be as much or Danny Addy or even Alex Mellor if we wanted young players.
It's more a matter of where they will fit if we do and how much that position is worth to us.

They have 3 wingers at the moment in Kear, Purtell and Foster. Logic says one of them will be the least paid. If we decide that player would be our best winger, we can offer more, without having more money than Bradford and without breaking our bank.

It's just inoffensive speculation.
I've mentioned Richard Horne a couple of times. I'm not suggesting we should stiff anyone at Hull or that we can even afford as I have no idea what he is on, I just like the idea. That's all this is to me.

Fair enough. I still think the OP was in poor taste no matter where it has led to

Although it is fairly obvious that Bradford have been paying over the odds, though with this being a specualtion page, this is also purely speculation.

Common sense says if I'm right, Wakefield will not overspend on recruitment like they previously have.

That being said, Kear and Sammut would be good signings I agree

Your point about the opening post is not lost. I'm quite surprised for a change we managed to make it a decent discussion. We usually start and go down rather than the other way.

In reality I can't imagine we will get anyone from Bradford. We will already have plans to fill roles and they will be in progress. To move quickly in this kind of situation you need ready cash and good prospects to get them to come.
I can't imagine anyone being let go from Bulls would really choose us out of choice for their next pay cheque. We may have turned a corner but if you've been burned already it will take more convincing.

They could. No one is making them bring in other players. They seem to have backed themselves into a corner by saying that. It would definitely help them out.