What has happened to Paul King?
Is he injured, still with us?

Henderson and Tadulala should imo be nowhere near next years squad if we truly want to move on to better things. Griffin also needs a major uplift in form to be worth a new deal. If he is injured for the rest of the season then based on recent form he should be released.

Don't get the problem with Semi I really don't.

Easily the best winger we have and has shown up really well even on Sunday. No issue at all with Semi stopping if the new coach thinks he needs a bit more experience and strength. Offers far more than Fox (who look to have lost his greatest asset his pace) or Griffin both of whom are lightweight by comparison.

As for Hendo, for me he is an OK player but he is in a position where we are not short of players and no fault of his he is IMHO holding back younger players.

If Griffin has a better attitude (in a sulk probably because his move to Crusaders hasnt worked) and providing he dosent have a bad injury i could see him being quite a good second row with his power and pace i think he could be like Frankie.
Also i would prefer Morton to Semi i think he could be quite good given more game time.

Age, the lack of genuine pace and the fact he is not english. We should be developing our own wingers.

Keeping Semi does not in my opinion show progression.

You have hit the nail on the head re Hendo, him in the squad stops the likes of Spiers development

Henderson has been a dependable rock for years and we know he will run through Walls.

But, i think it's time we looked for another option at second row.

Hendo is a bit like the canary down the pit. When he starts to look like one of the better players you know the team is in trouble.

I wouldn't argue with that but things don't all happen at once do they. There is no one who Semi is holding back IMO and the fact that he isn't English is an utterly flawed argument - so what. As for his pace, we could have Lynford Cristie on the wing he wouldn't score a try. We do not and probably will not have the players next season to create 80 yard tries. Our wingers will be required to crash over from 20 yards, Semi can do that just fine.

Just because Semi is in the squad doesn't mean he has to play, if Johnson or Griffin come on leaps and bounds next year he will lose his place to them. The point of a good Coach is to spot that and allow it to happen, you don't get rid of players and replace them with younger ones for the sake of it.

RL has always been a game of mixed ages and the balance it brings. You advance the whole of Wakefield Academy in one go we won't win a game.

Said at trust night that he is injured.

I wonder if the new coach will have the sense to play Tommy Lee at his correct position of Hooker?

Lee needs to play I'n his natural position of hooker.

Happy with Ellis/Lee combo - Davey pushing for a place.

I agree about Semi. He has won me over so far.
Hendo, I would still keep. When you need someone to plug the gap, he is it. He would probably be happy being a fringe player so good for the squad. I know he isn't for everybody but we need what he does and he does it well.

It's exactly the point for me. No need to have mediocre imports anywhere near the squad, time for us to make a change and do away with the Trinity of the recent seasos. We have banged on about how much of a hotbed the game is around these parts and how we produce SL quality players so we shouldn't need to rely on the likes of Semi, Smith, Hendo, Tony, Korki etc to field a team.

Agree, if we are to keep Lee that is. Powerfull hooker to start, interchanged with the much more lively Ellis after 25-30 mins much in the same vein as the top sides.

Yes but there is no point replacing mediocre overseas players for an even more mediocre British one. There has to be a balance, you limit the coach far to much if you have a blanket policy. If the coach feels Tadulala or whoever adds to the squad so be it.

Tongia
Fox
Tansey
Murphy
George
Witt
Moore
Hickey
Ellis
Johnson
Mariano
Wilkes
Morrison

Lee/Davey
Lauitiiti
Amor
King

I know we don't own a few of them yet, but all realistic signings and back the side up with our own youngsters. I'd get rid if Griffin, Hendo, Howarth, Vievers, Blaymire and possibly Korki.

Morton, Griffin, Johnson, George already here.

Fox, Riley, Ainscough, Halley, Burnet, Pryce, Gardner, (Cockayne?)

All mediocre ish to a lesser or greater degree wingers either available or rumoured to be available - I don't think there is any need to keep an ageing import when there all these potential options available. Granted non of them world beaters but let's not kid ourselfes about how good Semi is.

George is a centre

Griffin has been awful for reasons well known

Johnson can't defend and I mean can't

Morton apart from Cas has done well and you have a point he is a proper winger.

The rest are OK apart from Cockend who isn't a winger but do they want to join us?

I think you are being dogmatic. Semi offers something none of the other wingers do. He runs the ball up strongly and he hurts the opposition literally - none of our other backs really do that just yet. Murphy is getting close but he still doesn't offer what Semi does he offers an extra dimension. What I've seen of him so far he hasn't lost it. Excuse the pun but Semi is hard and we lack that IMO.

based on most peoples sides on here, we wont be pushing for top 8.

1. Marshall
2. George
3. Yeaman
4. Murphy
5. Johnson
6. Cronk
7. Moore/Wildie
8. Asotasi
9. Ellis
10. Crabtree
11. Mariano
12. Ellis
13. Morrison

14. Davey
15. Hickey
16. Peacock
17. Wilkes

18. Lee
19. Morton
20. Anakin
21. Trout
22. Spiers

does anybody expect us to in season 1 ? I dont it will take time I would be happy with a Bradford/Salford 2011 season to start with

depends if they are going to use the full salary cap, if they are then youve got to be pushing for honours if not then no.

think they said 1.3 in year 1 1.5 in year 2 and full in year 3 at the forum meeting bet thats not far off double now in year 1

1. Tongia
2. Fox
3. Murphy
4. George
5. Riley
6. Witt
7. Moore
8. Johnson
9. Ellis
10. Amor
11. Mariano
12. Morrison
13. Howarth

14. Davey
15. Lauititi
16. Coley
17. O'Hara