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| The one thing I don’t understand is, why the U-turn from WMDC?
At the beginning of last week they stated they would back one club, after the consultation process. The next minute the consultation is scrapped – why?
I loved the final paragraph though.
Quote Castleford Tigers remains committed to delivering a first class stadium for the local community that will satisfy the RFL criteria when the Super League Licences are reviewed in 2011, ensuring the long-term future prosperity of the world-class rugby league club. .'"
World Class!
Old Dicky never fails to ‘big up’ his club.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The one thing I don’t understand is, why the U-turn from WMDC?
At the beginning of last week they stated they would back one club, after the consultation process. The next minute the consultation is scrapped – why?
I loved the final paragraph though.
World Class!
Old Dicky never fails to ‘big up’ his club.'"
The consultation is scrapped because one party (trinity) decided not to go along with it therefore you cannot have a feasibility study when one of the partys is not interested.
As for dickie bigging up his club, why shouldnt he , they are a finacially stable club with assets , unlike our boom and bust (ill give ya a quid for our ground back) neighbours
Both sets of fans have got what they wanted and I look forward to us having some cracking derby days in the championship, because even if we both believe what our respective chairmen are telling us, I cant see the RFL buying either clubs spin
hope none of this offends cos ive had me wrist slapped
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The first part is a bit churlish,
was it as churlish as pulling out of the study before it even started ?????
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The one thing I don’t understand is, why the U-turn from WMDC?
At the beginning of last week they stated they would back one club, after the consultation process. The next minute the consultation is scrapped – why?
I loved the final paragraph though.
World Class!
Old Dicky never fails to ‘big up’ his club.'"
Because people were not prepared to lay down and let Box shaft the Club and the City. Like all bully boys they crumble when people stand up to them. We have had a very close shave with this one because Newmarket and the future of the club were being sacrificed to let box and his puppy Mark Burns Williams get their way.
Lets all get behind Newmarket and let the fiefdom of Castleford get on with their stadium.
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| carefully worded that statement with no reference to WMDC in respect of NM quite clear to me that RW has avoided any mention of the Council with Trin.
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| Not churlish to pull out. If you had seen the house you wanted to buy, you wouldn't ask the surveyor to also have a look at the house down the road as well, even though you had no intention of moving into that one.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Not churlish to pull out. If you had seen the house you wanted to buy, you wouldn't ask the surveyor to also have a look at the house down the road as well, even though you had no intention of moving into that one.'"
Even though you knew the one down the road was the most "feasible"
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"
If you truly believe it would have been independent, then you're as naive as your posts seem to indicate.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Not churlish to pull out. If you had seen the house you wanted to buy, you wouldn't ask the surveyor to also have a look at the house down the road as well, even though you had no intention of moving into that one.'"
I quite agree; nothing churlish about it - Rod & Ted have decided to go up against Box and WMDC and, for now at least, it's paid off. Good for them, good for us and, importantly, good for the district - sporting facilities, jobs, inward investment; just what the Dr ordered.
As for the Cas statement - a bit cagey, a bit vague and more than a hint of sour grapes; I suspect that, like many of the more obtuse Cas posters we've had permanently camped here for the last couple of weeks, RW and Co were guilty of counting their chickens after Box's premature announcement. Some frantic backpedalling and readjusting of expectations has, no doubt, had to take place.
Now both clubs can get on with their own projects; hopefully Cas fans will throw their weight behind theirs rather than wishing ill on ours, and vice versa.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"
In what way would it have not been independant ? I hope you are not suggesting any wrongdoing by any councillor . Could you please post evidence that this was not an independant study, Im sure most people would like to see it.
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| If I was a Cas fan I would be very very worried at this moment in time.
A statement about securing land to build on! You mean after 5 years of planning and 3 years of outline planning permission they didn't have that?
After such a strong statement of intent from us I was expecting a lot more from Cas. He manages to slip out of saying anything about the lack of funding, which has brought the project to a grinding halt for the last 3 years. This is the most important thing for Cas and the fans biggest fears, this he has failed to address.
Not surprising that a decent part of the statement is about having a dig at Newmarket and the not to happen so called feasibility study. Shame he couldn't find just one line to say they will never play there at least just to clarify the situation. We certainly did that about Glasshoughton.
Been the king of spin for the last few years it's a very poor effort for Dickies standards!
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| The first paragraph is childish and rather a sly dig at Wakefield. I'd assume he seems rather upset that Wakefield had no interest in sharing GH and helping find the shortfall of cash. I wish Castleford every succcess in their future and i'm glad to see they're are persisting with GH whether that's phased or not.
But whether Cas suceed or not is irrelevant. The only thing that concerns me is Wakefield getting Newmarket ready asap
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"
Of course its not churlish not participating in a feasibility study when the Terms of Reference are slanted such that only Glasshoughton can come out as being feasible.
Castleford agreed to the study as they believed it would come up with Glasshoughton otherwise they would not have agreed.
Newmarket is deliverable if the Council grant Outline Consent which is within their power to do so. There will not be a Public Enquiry - why should the Government spend time and money on an enquiry when the land will be designated for development in the next LDF Review. Its now over to the Council - lets see if they want a Community Stadium at Newmarket or not.
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| Quote In what way would it have not been independant ? I hope you are not suggesting any wrongdoing by any councillor . Could you please post evidence that this was not an independant study, Im sure most people would like to see it.
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The study was in no way going to look at the long term effects of either team as a business, which has to be the single most important thing. If it's not going to consider that why bother, the effects on us could of been disastrous.
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"In what way would it have not been independant ? I hope you are not suggesting any wrongdoing by any councillor . Could you please post evidence that this was not an independant study, Im sure most people would like to see it. '"
Because Box is a Cas fan & head honcho at the Council.
How can he be impartial, I know I wouldn’t be.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Been the king of spin for the last few years it's a very poor effort for Dickies standards!'"
He needs to open the stadium shop back up at Xscape they'll all swallow that and it will keep them happy for the next 9 months or so.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Because Box is a Cas fan & head honcho at the Council.
How can he be impartial, I know I wouldn’t be.'"
So you set the council leaders standards alongside your own ???
You still didnt show any evidence that it wouldnt have been independant
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| Quote ="jack in the box"He needs to open the stadium shop back up at Xscape they'll all swallow that and it will keep them happy for the next 9 months or so.'"
I forgot about that, is that actually still there?
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"So you set the council leaders standards alongside your own ???
You still didnt show any evidence that it wouldnt have been independant'"
No, my integrity is whiter than white.
The evidence? HE IS A CAS FAN, its human nature.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"No, my integrity is whiter than white.
The evidence? HE IS A CAS FAN, its human nature.'"
Human?
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| Quote ="deeHell"icon_lol.gif I forgot about that, is that actually still there?'"
The shop is closed now but all their propaganda is still in the place. As an aside I was around Xscape the other day and quite a few of the shops are empty and the whole place is starting to look very tired
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| Can I ask a question?
Is it possible that a lack of agreement between Cas and Wakey could shaft the pair of you in 2012?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Can I ask a question?
Is it possible that a lack of agreement between Cas and Wakey could shaft the pair of you in 2012?'"
It would have shafted Wakey eventually if we had gone to Glashoughton. That is the only thing that bothers me.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Can I ask a question?
Is it possible that a lack of agreement between Cas and Wakey could shaft the pair of you in 2012?'"
Not really, an agreement with either as the lesser party would have shafted the other forever!
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