He new thing is waring thin. We showed over the last two weeks that isn't an issue now. We were just inept.

why on earth is Steve southern the captain?hes done nothing will do even less and has no interest.

Agree. I have defended the team in the past and advocated continuity because the performances were reasonable and progress appeared to being made on a week by week basis. Tonights result and performance is a massive step backwards and there simply has to be changes for next weeks game to show those that played tonight that is not acceptable and to give the likes of Ellis and Walshaw the chance to prove they deserve a regular spot.

Neither Mellars or Sykes are very convincing at Centre. If, Collis is fit, I would play him and Kirmond in the Centres. I'd have Ellis starting at Hooker and interchanging with Kyle Wood, with Aiton at loose forward. Lautiti on the bench and to play in 2 20 min spells.

The backs should be spending hours in training learning how to defend kicks, whilst the half backs spend hours learning how to put in decent attacking kicks.


Agars

No direction, no passion and no balls, All this b--------s about gelling is cheap talk, start playing basic rugby league is that too much to ask from a side of proffesional players?????

Beat Cas and put Leeds out of the cup and this game won't matter.

On sky they were saying that gelling is no longer an excuse this far into the season, both teams were relatively new so it should have been a closer game.

Still don't think we are quite there, but at game 8 i dont think we should be nilled.

Have you ever visited the planet earth slug

Have you seen Agars record against Leeds? Or in local derbies.

1. First and foremost London were solid. Didn't make many mistakes and when they did they were mainly in our 30. They also played to their strengths and our weaknesses. Fair play to them.

2. We didn't have a great start with the decisions. I thought the first try was dodgy and the penalty for the 2 points ridiculous. We were immediately on the back foot.

3. The try from Sarginson(?) came from a really lucky break but was also a terrific finish. Before we know it we were looking at a 14 point deficit. We then had the second really poor penalty given against Raleigh, as poor a decision as you will see and they are piggy backed into our half and score again.

4. We then seemed to lose all composure and for the rest of the game can only be described as gash, no getting away from it.

5. For me it is one of those performances where nothing went right and we should forget about it. I just hope it focusses our mind for the Ginners

Its easy to say we were poor, which we were. But everything that could go wrong, did go wrong.
The loss of injured players, strange ref decisions, bad bounces, bad discipline you name it, it was all on the mix.
Most of it is out of our control, but what hurt the most was the manner of our loss.
We looked second best all night, and we're outperformed and worse, out enthused in a game that was a huge stepping stone for us.
The measure of this team and this season rests on how we get up for Friday, have we got the stomach for it, because we didnt tonight!

FAO TURFEDOUT

"Raleigh is a waste of a shirt" ............... so 42 tackles in less than 80 minutes is a waste of a shirt?

Guess we know why you are not a rugby league coach.

You can hardly fault him for being unfairly penalised by Ganson for so called offences that numerous players from both sides committed during the game without receiving similar attention from Ganson.

It was a poor team performance by Wakefield and to single one player out for such harsh criticism shows that you are a waste of a supporter.

No direction is where we are going wrong here we have the skills and attributes to compete this year.Im the last person to criticise Agar but what on earth is he doing through the week with this team?nothings changed in defence or attack
i'd suggest selecting a new captain but theres no one else.

Spot on agree with that 100%, it's happened now lets move on.

rubbish disgusting embarrassed

My glass is as half-empty as the next man, but I'm always convinced that the next pint will be lovely.

Sums it up for me,onwards and upwards.

Personally, I was quite satisfied that my expectations were fulfilled. Unfortunately, they were:

1. Sykes would kick it out on the full (he does it at least once a game)
2. Wilkes would drop it.
3. We wouldn't defend kicks.
4. We would be on the wrong end of some tough calls.
5. The Sky team would only be interested in London. Our involvement seemed to be a guest appearance as far as Sky were concerned.
6. The crowd would resemble a plastic seat exhibition

Agar should flog em tomorrow

edited for accuracy

Ditto I feel Southerns not leading us in a direction on the park that we need leading too although hard when spelled.

Kirmond and Washbrook have done more than Southern has, surely one of them should be captain?

Issac John needs a stint in the 20's to concentrate his mind. Woody is far in front at the mo

Aiton would be my choice as captain

Thats fair comment

i do worry that the log cut out pass to the wingers seems to be our main option and when that does not work we seem a touch cluless.

Lets hope Friday is a chance to turn it around.

Gower's been playing rah rah and he still looked miles better than either of our half backs?????