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| Quote ="homme vaste"That's thing though PT, key word in that "was", can't remember last time we played for the full 80?
Clueless on the last tackle regardless of the halves we play, not just that but nothing close to the line at all and we come undone in defence at slightest sign of pressure...
Early on we looked brilliant, not clinical but good pressure and again as we so often do we have just fallen apart.'"
100 percent agree with this , considering number of players Wigan had out a very dossapointing performance
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| Quote ="cocker"Well can’t have anymore coaches involved than we have now !!!! Just need to hope Lino ups his game as we go on ... he’s fading fast after 30 mins'"
What a load of rubbish, we look Identical to how we have looked over the last 2 years and all of a sudden a bloke that rocked up 2 months ago is to blame.
No matter who we put out, we still have the same issues.
We are all frustrated, maybe this is a frustrated post I don't know, but who do we look toto hold to account for the same issues to after time?
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| SORRY!!! NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!! Get your excuses ready PT
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| Quote ="homme vaste"What a load of rubbish, we look Identical to how we have looked over the last 2 years and all of a sudden a bloke that rocked up 2 months ago is to blame.
No matter who we put out, we still have the same issues.
We are all frustrated, maybe this is a frustrated post I don't know, but who do we look toto hold to account for the same issues to after time?'"
Not wanting to blame Lino at all ... just hoping he can put in a full performance has he goes on .... because he looks good when we start the game . Pack looking weak once we start making substitutions .
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"100 percent agree with this , considering number of players Wigan had out a very dossapointing performance'"
I said this when leeds had all their players missing last week.
I got shouted down last week,now Wigan are massively understrentgh and we get smashed, just imagine when we play a full strength side !!!!
We have only won 7 games in the last 29 super league games
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| Going to be a long season and a nail biting ending if we can’t play the full 80 ,outplayed ,outgunned by a bunch of youngsters this second half.
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| Quote ="Emley Cat"Still the attack? Come on it's a whole lot of things we're getting battered here. We had all that pressure first half and delivered next to nothing. Defence has been a shambles this half. Wigan aren't even at full strength.'"
I'm not sure why you are having a go. It's the same thing.
If we had had better last tackle plays we'd have scored or put them under pressure.
When we didn't they don't use any energy defending us and we are wearing ourselves out.
Defense was good early on. We just ran out of steam because we play dumb rugby.
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| The team just don't look fit. They were blowing after half an hour.
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| Leigh showed Wigan up last week. We showed ourselves up this week.
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| This second half performance is nothing short of embarrassing in my opinion. Our attack is just filth. The majority of our tries have and will come from individual efforts ie Johnstone, Fifita, no set moves .... nothing. What has honestly changed from last year apart from actually looking worse?? Am I deluded or do we actually have a decent side too. I genuinely think this side is capable of so much more yet we serve up this in the second half. What is actual win to loss ratio in the last 50 games, does anyone know? It’s easy to say “we played great that first half” it literally means F all, like a boxer coming out hell for leather for 4 rounds then getting knocked out in the 5th. On this showing we are genuine relegation fodder, don’t mean to be doom and gloom but that was a clueless horrendous second half showing.
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| Quote ="Redscat"SORRY!!! NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!! Get your excuses ready PT'"
Not sure what it has to do with me. I didn't miss any tackles.
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| Change the style of play for goodness sake, it’s slow it’s predictable. Go right or go left round the back to Ryan and all of them are running sideways it’s utterly pathetic. We had a decent amount of field position, utter utter garbage and he comes out with it’s where we are at the minute and not good enough, well no crap Chester it’s been the same for ages.
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| So chesters response is this is where we are at ? It’s only the second game of the season ffs. Then he blames the effort !!
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| 8 wins in 42 games
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| On Bobby's last try,. Lyne was the closest to the right touch line defending the kick. He ran past 12 players to attempt the tackle on the opposite wing on his own.
You have to ask what the others were doing.
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| Miller is the problem for me. He doesn’t have any creativity in him other than a short ball to Ashurst. He’s had enough different halfback partners now.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Miller is the problem for me. He doesn’t have any creativity in him other than a short ball to Ashurst. He’s had enough different halfback partners now.'"
Let's be honest Wilzay we all know the problem and it's not Miller
Take a look at Mopseys Post, he's bang on.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"Change the style of play for goodness sake, it’s slow it’s predictable. Go right or go left round the back to Ryan and all of them are running sideways it’s utterly pathetic. We had a decent amount of field position, utter utter garbage and he comes out with it’s where we are at the minute and not good enough, well no crap Chester it’s been the same for ages.'"
I'm not disagreeing particularly, but are you saying it's not Hampshire's fault in that scenario. I thought he killed the play every time.
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| Pathetic second half, genuinely thought it was going to be a close game at half time. No doubt miss K Wood from dummy half but you have to question the coaches and halfbacks after that. What are they actually doing in training?
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| That was nothing short of awful, we looked worse than ever. This team is much better than the garbage we have seen for the last two years and the excuses don't wash anymore Chester, sort it quickly or go.
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| What an utterly predictable Chesteresqe performance, A narrow loss followed by a thumping. What's our plan when we get in the red zone? No attacking structure at all just relying on some individualism to crop up. Nothing has changed from last season I fear.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm not disagreeing particularly, but are you saying it's not Hampshire's fault in that scenario. I thought he killed the play every time.'" if you look back at the game watch the way our halves recieve the ball off the first man, there first movement is always sideways and not forwards, they are like crabs running across a field, Ryan needs to come back on the inside or drop out all together. The whole attacking structure as been same for years it’s so easy to defend against, it needs altering it simply doesn’t work. We play one side or the other play through each and give our backs some good clean ball. Bill rocky TJ lynn pace all over and it’s not used correctly
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"if you look back at the game watch the way our halves recieve the ball off the first man, there first movement is always sideways and not forwards, they are like crabs running across a field, Ryan needs to come back on the inside or drop out all together. The whole attacking structure as been same for years it’s so easy to defend against, it needs altering it simply doesn’t work. We play one side or the other play through each and give our backs some good clean ball. Bill rocky TJ lynn pace all over and it’s not used correctly'"
But that's no different to Hastings. He goes across too.
I do agree though that we didn't spread the ball correctly.
When the ball got to Lyne or Tupou everyone was stood on top of each other so easy to defend.
TJs try last week was created by two quick passes to the wing to give him space. If we'd done that today we'd have scored tries because in the first half Farrell was all over the place.
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| I think we should start to campaign for no relegation for this season. I can’t think of a reason why relegation would be scrapped but I think it is our only hope.
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| But shocked by second half display,Know it did not help T J off ,and Wigan attacked that side all second half .A good first 40 mins in defence, but the second half was shocking in all department Carrying a lot of passenger .Think it's going to be a hard season .Fifita gave100% Aroma tried hard Westerman went ok .Will get shot down but need a attacking 9 and a power forward ,Know we got Wood ,Jowitt and Battye to come back in but think to night proves how far we are of the top teams.But a stronger Wigan team than some on here make out
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