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| Wakefield is the 15th. largest city/town/district in the UK with a population of 317,342 on latest figures.
Only one other city/town/ district that has a team in Super League and has a bigger population is Leeds in 3rd place in the UK with 726,936.
After Wakefield and 18th place in the Uk is Wigan with 309,786. Just goes to show what WMDC think about a Community Stadium for the people of Wakefield and Wakefield Trinity,
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| 317,342 is for the Wakefield District which has three rugby grounds, the population of the city is 76886.
Pity we wasn't Bradford the RFL would help us
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| Quote ="Daddycool"The council can easily borrow at very low rates. Just as Leeds for headingley and Merseyside for everton have done. Me borrowing 10 million is impossible.
Once it's built there are various avenues where we can recover the loan. Mainly yorkcourt, but even without them, the land developed as housing up there could realise 7.5 million'"
Yes the council can easily borrow the money, but Leeds have a good credit history and a sound business plan. Do you or WT? The council would be left with the debt if things go wrong.
If you have such a great plan , surely you can raise the money via a bank?
Would you accept a proposal where the council fund a stadium and retain ownership (like Salford)? I believe you have said you wouldn't and for good reason!
You know the reasons why the council cannot do as you suggest, as you are a clever business man who has worked wonders.
WT has been conned by a grubby developer, a con man and an incompetent council and that is your ,pitch to the RFL later.. RL is a sport. It is not about crowds, facilities or politics it is a game played between 2 teams of 13 people! This year you have been quite good at it!
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| Good luck today with RFL but I feel they will just ask for concrete plans, and maybe fine or points deduct for breaching members rule but that's it
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| Good luck to MC today. Just listened to his interview on Radio Leeds and whatever the outcome today it's good that we have such a decent honest bloke at the helm of the club
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| seems to me that our fate as a club in Wakefield are for today at least totally in the hands of the RFL !!! what will they do or say - and carter has said it correct - nobody to blame but our club !
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| Quote ="BOJ042"seems to me that our fate as a club in Wakefield are for today at least totally in the hands of the RFL !!! what will they do or say - and carter has said it correct - nobody to blame but our club !'"
Only he didn't say that did he. He clarified "we" meant the club the council and the developer. Clearly there are other parties with culpability as well
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| When is the meeting? When might we hear the outcome?
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| mid august apparently/probably.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"mid august apparently/probably.'"
I think that meeting in mid August is just to ratify by full RFL committee whatever is proposed at todays meeting.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"I think that meeting in mid August is just to ratify by full RFL committee whatever is proposed at todays meeting.'"
I assume that nothing is going to be proposed today as WMDC executives are going to visit the RFL next week with regard to WT.
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| Quote ="PHe"I assume that nothing is going to be proposed today as WMDC executives are going to visit the RFL next week with regard to WT.'"
Why would they do that? Not doubting what you're saying but WMDC are nothing to do with our plight, Peter Box has told us that all along.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Why would they do that? Not doubting what you're saying but WMDC are nothing to do with our plight, Peter Box has told us that all along.'"
Things have changed. Do keep up.
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| Quote ="PHe" ... WMDC executives are going to visit the RFL next week with regard to WT.'"
Where is this info from?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Things have changed. Do keep up.'"
Yeah, course they have.
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| Look north have stated on tonight's show that that the powers that be "Are willing to consider Wakefields request for permission to play next season at BV"
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| I thought we'd given our notice to quit BV!!
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| Quote ="Kiyan"Yes the council can easily borrow the money, but Leeds have a good credit history and a sound business plan. Do you or WT? The council would be left with the debt if things go wrong.
If you have such a great plan , surely you can raise the money via a bank?
Would you accept a proposal where the council fund a stadium and retain ownership (like Salford)? I believe you have said you wouldn't and for good reason!
You know the reasons why the council cannot do as you suggest, as you are a clever business man who has worked wonders.
WT has been conned by a grubby developer, a con man and an incompetent council and that is your ,pitch to the RFL later.. RL is a sport. It is not about crowds, facilities or politics it is a game played between 2 teams of 13 people! This year you have been quite good at it!'"
You thing Yorkshire CCC are such a sound bet? They are carrying a debt of £24 million and last year produced a profit of £300. This funding for a new stand to replace the one which has been filled on one day only in each of the last 2 seasons and increase the ground capacity beyond the current level which is rarely met. Yorkshire have been backed into a corner by the ECB, Leeds Rugby and, most significantly, Leeds City Council as they are desperate to have top class sport in Leeds and will do anything to prevent Yorkshire CCC from moving to another city, which would definitely be in the club's best interest.
Leeds Council has brokered a deal to fund the rebuilding of the North & South Stands at Leeds RLFC and YCCC by raising funds from a private finance company in the City then sub letting the stands to the clubs for decades.
What's the difference between this and Wakefield Trinity?
The Council is prepared to broker the deal.
It is within the power of Wakefield Council to do exactly the same thing at Newmarket, or wherever, but they have concentrated on obstructing rather than facilitating. You may ask why - and so does everyone else.
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| To be fair LCC have a better product to offer to one of the richest cities in the country.
WCC ........don't.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"I think that meeting in mid August is just to ratify by full RFL committee whatever is proposed at todays meeting.'"
I don't think MC met the full committee today Kev. As I understand it the ones he did meet will report back to the full committee at the full meeting in mid August to debate it.
If what we are all hearing from MC is a true assessment of the situation then I feel the RFL would be setting a dangerous precedent if they don't cut him some slack.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I don't think MC met the full committee today Kev. As I understand it the ones he did meet will report back to the full committee at the full meeting in mid August to debate it.
If what we are all hearing from MC is a true assessment of the situation then I feel the RFL would be setting a dangerous precedent if they don't cut him some slack.'"
No, he didn't,that was the point I was making. Whoever and how many he met, whatever they decide to do still has to go to a full meeting of the RFL. They will then ultimately decide the future of Trinity. They could go ahead with the decision reached at Mondays meeting or make changes to it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"To be fair LCC have a better product to offer to one of the richest cities in the country.
WCC ........don't.'"
NO, Leeds City Council understands the value that top class sporting facilities bring to the city and are prepared to pay the price to keep YCCC within the city.
At the end of the day, all they have done is facilitate borrowing which they (and Wakefield Council) are empowered to do. They are guarantors for the loan and enabled this development without which Leeds would have lost its international cricket status.
It's just business.
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| Yes it's business and mr box and wmdc want it all done at Castleford.
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| If Box and WDMC wanted it to happen, they would have made it happen by now. Be interesting to hear what they say to MC's offer of lending the money and paying back with interest.
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| That offers been on the table from MC for ages now, the silence from the council is deafening
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