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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"
We could easily have won last night, we just made far too many errors and lacked some discipline at important times. Maybe at 12-0 we could have showed some patience but there again it could easily have gone to 18-0 with the right pass. Good performance in defeat and something to build upon.'"
I don't think patience is the thing here, we took chances and threw the ball about to go 12-0 up, 12 points was never ever going to be enough to beat them so we needed to continue playing. Our 2 tries where 'oppertunist' particularly the one on the last tackle, it came from disorganisation and a bit of broken play - but it was extremely well taken, we grasped the oppertunity and made them pay. We needed to continue to chance our arm a little in the first half, unfortunately for one reason or another it didnt work.
Agree about the honesty, feared the worst in the second half but the lads dug in real deep and never gave in. We are really close, all it needs is to cut out the errors early in the tackle count, stop the almost mandatory try from their hooker diving over the line and improve the defense and we have a formula that could get us well into the play offs if we remain injury free.
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| I can't believe that no-one has mentioned Pryce - the guy was fantastic!
In fact, all their 'special' players - Eastmond / Pryce / Cunningham / Graham - were superb all night and caused us all the problems we endured.
But as has been laboured on here - the knock-ons killed us. Too much defending against a side too good not to take at least some of the oppotunites gifted them. Culprits (I know it's tough when they ALL battled so hard), but JD and Sam's distribution from Hooker were to blame for most of the errors. I would especially note the Murphy knock-on that ultimately cost us a try - it was a terrible pass from Sam, rather than Aaron's fault.
So - a game we had hopes of has gone away, but there are far too many positives to be down-hearted. It was a tremendous game of rugby, highlighted by the amazing Morton score and those who saw it will only be fuelled by the frustration that, without those bloody knock-ons, we could have won.
As it was Saints were better controlled than us and deserved the win.
PS - wouldn't mind seeing the Eastmond try again - it did seem like obstruction at the time and would just like to know if it was or not!
Bring on the Midgets!
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| simply we gave a top team far too much possesion in our half of the field, and ultimately did well to defend the way we did. key moments for me were moore failing to pass when well supported, aarron murphy's knock on when we got the ball for first time in ages.
also morrissons attempt to ground the ball looked very close, and thought morton struggled to clear his in goal area, think blanch would probably have had the strength to do this(not a criticism he is only a young un and the strength will come) also he took his try brilliantly.
all in all very happy with the effort put in by all, just need to be a bit more clinical
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| Quote ="TRB"I can't believe that no-one has mentioned Pryce - the guy was fantastic!
In fact, all their 'special' players - Eastmond / Pryce / Cunningham / Graham - were superb all night and caused us all the problems we endured.
But as has been laboured on here - the knock-ons killed us. Too much defending against a side too good not to take at least some of the oppotunites gifted them. Culprits (I know it's tough when they ALL battled so hard), but JD and Sam's distribution from Hooker were to blame for most of the errors. I would especially note the Murphy knock-on that ultimately cost us a try - it was a terrible pass from Sam, rather than Aaron's fault.
So - a game we had hopes of has gone away, but there are far too many positives to be down-hearted. It was a tremendous game of rugby, highlighted by the amazing Morton score and those who saw it will only be fuelled by the frustration that, without those bloody knock-ons, we could have won.
As it was Saints were better controlled than us and deserved the win.
PS - wouldn't mind seeing the Eastmond try again - it did seem like obstruction at the time and would just like to know if it was or not!
Bring on the Midgets!
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agree alot of ball from acting half back was poor and caused knocks ons for Murphy and Morton, also in general play we were having to stop or redjust to take the ball.
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| Just as many positives as controversial decisions to take from this performance.A prodigious amount of tackling and overall a good defensive display augurs well for another 8 game winning run in regular Super League fixtures.Composure and patience will be required to break down the Huddersfiled defence and ball retention is a must.
Saint Helens have been there and done it - we are nearly there and can do it !
I thought Cunningham was the catalyst for their cohesion and their kicking game was effective.I thought the pitches drying out would see the best of Dale and Darryl but they continue to delight - I couldn't see the alleged forward pass in our try but I could for Saints,as well as the obstruction and some of their penalty awards were ludicrous.I also saw Wellens trip which was forgotten about as we scored a try.
I would much rather lose on a cold,wet February night when our players assist the opposition with possession and referee decisions assist with field position than in 6/7 months when it really matters.Saints have had more experience of wet-weather training with their appearances at Old Trafford and the experience to win games when not playing at the top of their game.I think this will prove to be an excellent learning curve for our players.
I shall now wait with anticipation for the match stats.and the camera coverage.
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| actually it was gleeson who lost the ball trying to play it and jd tried to play on and hide the error. he did knock on twice at play the ball though.
Quote ="TRB"Yep - JD Knocked on - again!
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| My summary of last night .... Korki and Tronc aside... we really did not seem to have any grunt compared with Saints...
To much reliance on Korki and Tronc for go forward no on else give us the size and bulk up front.
Why are we not playing King or even Bibb for that matter - Hendo runs his heart oout but isn't big enough to get go forward... Davey and Latu did well but can't comptete physically with the opposition.. JD had a shocker.
Graham - in particular, Fozzard, Clough and Faasavalu were the difference last night in the platform they laid for Eastmond and Pryce. The pressure of no go forward and constant defence added to the mistakes sums it up.. Sam Obsts distribution for 80 minutes was nothing short of attorcious
Don't want to criticise but feel selection cost us last night.
on the plus side Murphy and Morton were outstanding.
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| Quote ="not again"actually it was gleeson who lost the ball trying to play it and jd tried to play on and hide the error. he did knock on twice at play the ball though.
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That sounds about right - apologies to JD for that one!
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| King & Johnson were both injured / poorly.
However would bibb have added anything that hendo would have.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"King & Johnson were both injured / poorly.
However would bibb have added anything that hendo would have.'"
Wouldnt think so, rather have hendo and bibb. Hendo tries
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Thats a Wakey fans version of the game and yes I know it is on the Wakey site. Your first try was from a pass that was so far forward it was beyond belief. The second Wakey try came from a knock on which was missed by the officials. It was right infront of us. I don't think Brough going off cost you the game as we lost Gidley with what looks a long term injury. His replacement lasted about a minute before he went off with a wrist or hand injury (just hope it's not broken.) All in all it was a very good exciting end to end game which could have gone either way. The officials were poor but for both sides. You should be proud of your team they will still be up there at the end of the season when it matters.'"
Pass to Meli was a mile forward and the 'goal', ball went wide of the post.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Pass to Meli was a mile forward and the 'goal', ball went wide of the post.'"
no the ball went through ok!
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| Quote ="TRB"I can't believe that no-one has mentioned Pryce - the guy was fantastic!
In fact, all their 'special' players - Eastmond / Pryce / Cunningham / Graham - were superb all night and caused us all the problems we endured.
But as has been laboured on here - the knock-ons killed us. Too much defending against a side too good not to take at least some of the oppotunites gifted them. Culprits (I know it's tough when they ALL battled so hard), but JD and Sam's distribution from Hooker were to blame for most of the errors. I would especially note the Murphy knock-on that ultimately cost us a try - it was a terrible pass from Sam, rather than Aaron's fault.
So - a game we had hopes of has gone away, but there are far too many positives to be down-hearted. It was a tremendous game of rugby, highlighted by the amazing Morton score and those who saw it will only be fuelled by the frustration that, without those bloody knock-ons, we could have won.
As it was Saints were better controlled than us and deserved the win.
PS - wouldn't mind seeing the Eastmond try again - it did seem like obstruction at the time and would just like to know if it was or not!
Bring on the Midgets!
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no, blaymire was at fault..stood and waited to see where he was going. murphy would have smashed him!
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| i was really proud of the guys effort on friday although at times we where poor with ball in hand lost count of amount of times we dropped ball on first or second taclke,and moore made a superb break and i think he diddnt know which way to pass and welans got him before he made his mind up.the morrison try was right in front of me and it looked like to a try to me and in second half players seemed to celabrate a try but nothing was given but was at other end so dont know what happend.what is others veiw on our second try i thought wellans should have gone for tripping murphy when he kicked on i know we scored but a trip is a trip.blaymire was at fault for eastmond try he stood and watched and feel murphy should have played at fb where he been playing so well with blanch coming in on wing and as i have said before morrison should be captain he does more to rally the boys than jd does and has much as love jd he wouldnt be in my starting line up at moment he not playing well enough.also does any body wonder whats going on at half time thats 3 out of 4 games where we have conceded first in second and all early on aswell
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| didnt anyone notcie DB raying the troops when we were kicking from between the posts 2nd half. fair better then his normal "having ago" at players. is this a new Danny?
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| I noticed that Flubber, was great to see. He'd have been out of order to have a go at them though, we'd just kept them out for something like 3 18 tackles on our own line!! Brough does seem to have matured and he's playing out of his skn at the minute, hope we can carry on our good form throughout the season and eventually convince him his future lies with the Wildcats, still think he'll go to Hudds though
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| Sorry to butt in on your thread, thought you played very well and maybe if Brough hadn't have gone off you'd have taken the spoils. Anyway I watched the highlights and seriously thought Meli was in touch, when I reviewed it, it clearly shows his foot hits the whitewash miles before he touches down, what the TJ was looking at lord only knows especially when the ref asks him if it was okay?
I know they didn't have the benefit of the VR but surely the TJ can see his foot hit the whitewash??
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Sorry to butt in on your thread, thought you played very well and maybe if Brough hadn't have gone off you'd have taken the spoils. Anyway I watched the highlights and seriously thought Meli was in touch, when I reviewed it, it clearly shows his foot hits the whitewash miles before he touches down, what the TJ was looking at lord only knows especially when the ref asks him if it was okay?
I know they didn't have the benefit of the VR but surely the TJ can see his foot hit the whitewash??'"
Cheers for the pic
That touch Judge is gonna get it blind egit
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| No wonder the little Richard head ran back towards the posts smirking!
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| Thats a bit of a poor call to say the least but remember against Hudds at BV ( a wet game) a few years back us scoring with BOTH feet in touch, nobody complained that day.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"what the TJ was looking at lord only knows especially when the ref asks him if it was okay?
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He was in the process of realising that he had a long time still to go running up and down that touchline in front of the popular stand. We, however, were much further away, although the TJ was smirking to himself when he got behind the sticks (having said that, there were a few choice words directed at him that would have made most people blush!).
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Thats a bit of a poor call to say the least but remember against Hudds at BV ( a wet game) a few years back us scoring with BOTH feet in touch, nobody complained that day.'"
thats because we didnt have a picture
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| Quote ="trinityboy"thats because we didnt have a picture
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Oh we do and i'll look it up.
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| Quote ="TRB"I can't believe that no-one has mentioned Pryce - the guy was fantastic!
In fact, all their 'special' players - Eastmond / Pryce / Cunningham / Graham - were superb all night and caused us all the problems we endured.
But as has been laboured on here - the knock-ons killed us. Too much defending against a side too good not to take at least some of the oppotunites gifted them. Culprits (I know it's tough when they ALL battled so hard), but JD and Sam's distribution from Hooker were to blame for most of the errors. I would especially note the Murphy knock-on that ultimately cost us a try - it was a terrible pass from Sam, rather than Aaron's fault.
So - a game we had hopes of has gone away, but there are far too many positives to be down-hearted. It was a tremendous game of rugby, highlighted by the amazing Morton score and those who saw it will only be fuelled by the frustration that, without those bloody knock-ons, we could have won.
As it was Saints were better controlled than us and deserved the win.
PS - wouldn't mind seeing the Eastmond try again - it did seem like obstruction at the time and would just like to know if it was or not!
Bring on the Midgets!
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From a Saints perspective I really enjoyed the win on Friday - it was a return to a sort of open rugby that we generally did'nt see last year because of the wrestle-a-thon which the referees gave latitude to.
I thought Wakey defended well throughout the game. On the one hand they defended well to allow them to go 12 -0 againstt he run of play, and were resolute when Saints threatened to roll early in the second half. First 20 minutes I though Saints looked too 'training ground' drilled, but thankfully they clicked, although too much appears to depend on Pryce.
I would be encouraged as a Wakefield fan that the defence not only stood firm after so much ball was spilled, but that the side never tired also.
Towards the end of the game the big Wakefield forwards were making good yards which allowed them to get back into the game. Coach Kear has built a well ordered and drilled team at Belle Vue. tronc looks a good prop and I am unsure why the Leaguer gave him a 6 rating. He was more dangerous than that.
Hope Wakefield fans enjoyed the game, that both teams tried to give the ball some air, and that the ref finally allowed the attacking team more of a crack at the play the ball. Brough going off hurt you in my opinion.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"From a Saints perspective I really enjoyed the win on Friday - it was a return to a sort of open rugby that we generally did'nt see last year because of the wrestle-a-thon which the referees gave latitude to.
I thought Wakey defended well throughout the game. On the one hand they defended well to allow them to go 12 -0 againstt he run of play, and were resolute when Saints threatened to roll early in the second half. First 20 minutes I though Saints looked too 'training ground' drilled, but thankfully they clicked, although too much appears to depend on Pryce.
I would be encouraged as a Wakefield fan that the defence not only stood firm after so much ball was spilled, but that the side never tired also.
Towards the end of the game the big Wakefield forwards were making good yards which allowed them to get back into the game. Coach Kear has built a well ordered and drilled team at Belle Vue. tronc looks a good prop and I am unsure why the Leaguer gave him a 6 rating. He was more dangerous than that.
Hope Wakefield fans enjoyed the game, that both teams tried to give the ball some air, and that the ref finally allowed the attacking team more of a crack at the play the ball. Brough going off hurt you in my opinion.'"
a good assessment imo. it is true to say there was a period fromthe last 10/15 of first half and same into the second half where saints dominated and historically would have put 40+ on us. it's testament to the improvements we have made that we came away thinking what if, although it would have been harsh on saints if they hadn't have edged it.
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