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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Positives? Every day is another day closer to Agar leaving the club.'"
Probably the most positive thing suggested on here in a long while.
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| We are the famous Wakefield Trinity
Our City's club
Good chance of staying up this season
Belle Vue getting redeveloped
The clubs getting run correctly for first time in years
The clubs looking to forge closer links to the community
It's our club our sons our fathers and grandfathers
TRINITY FOREVER
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I think you deserve a medal to post anything positive is like dropping blood into a tank of piranhas. I guess they will be massing in the shallows thinking of ways to turn this into another string of negative posts. It might take them sometime to do so you will just have to be patient but eventually they will get there.
We should run a sweep to see which one of the usual band of Marvins is first to do so.'"
You're consistent, I'll give you that.
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| I told you it was only a matter of time before they circled the corpse they consider to be the Wakefield Trinity.
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| I think someone's just broken the record of how far a person can stick their head up their own !!! Scarlett you are the perfect definition of hypocrisy your always complaining about people complaining when they have a right to complain. Folkin hell if anyone is making this thread negative it's you with your snobby comments and your "I look down on everyone" attitude. People have a right to be angry frustrated, but I'm guessing you don't like people to have their rights?
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| Quote ="Willzay"I think someone's just broken the record of how far a person can stick their head up their own booty!!! Scarlett you are the perfect definition of hypocrisy your always complaining about people complaining when they have a right to complain. Folkin hell if anyone is making this thread negative it's you with your snobby comments and your "I look down on everyone" attitude. People have a right to be angry frustrated, but I'm guessing you don't like people to have their rights?'"
Pimpernel/Agent XIII makes you look positive, so it's not all bad news!
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| Quote ="feline"ok, like most on here am angry, frustrated , annoyed , disappointed , let down, disillusioned but negativity just makes me feel worse...so how about looking for the positives ahead of this weeks game:
We have a club to support...after the financial meltdowns and no points deducted
We are above London & Bulls
Kirmo stayed loyal to Wakey and has been immense
Chris Riley has been a good signing
Walshaws form has been outstanding
Godinet and Sammutt are class half back pairing
Jordan Crowther is a star in the making
Richie Moore has been very good
The team spirit shown in the Widnes game was immense
What a comeback v Hull
What a win v Widnes
The vocal support ( other than Sunday) has been outstanding
We are staying a Belle Vue
No segregation required
Snowie and his gang are amazing'"
I totally agree...its a shame Richard Agar doesnt see that
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| Quote ="Willzay"Probably the most positive thing suggested on here in a long while.'"
If it was going to happen next week Id be positive. Sadly it will happen with about 6 games to go (like 06) when Bradford have been given at least 4 points back, and beaten us, as they will, and we have won almost no games from now. In despair we will ditch him and gamble on a finacial meltdown. I would have trimmed the playing staff down 10 games ago when the writing was glowing in neon technicolour on the wall, and paid the cringing loser off.
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| God I hope Trin beat Bulls and beat them well just to shut folk up if not for ever at least until they can string some garbage together.
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| The next 2 games are massive for Trinity 2 wins and you can for the first time start planning for the following season without being stuck behind the 8 ball till all the other clubs make and instigate their plans.
For all the Agar haters his job is to keep Wakefield out of the bottom 2 and the next 2 fixtures could very well define his future in coaching.
I appreciate it is tough but everyone in Wakefield must get behind the club, players and coach. I have no doubt the focus on the next few weeks will have had a negative influence on recent form but we are now at the point if poop or bust and I expect the club to respond.
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| Quote ="jonh"The next 2 games are massive for Trinity 2 wins and you can for the first time start planning for the following season without being stuck behind the 8 ball till all the other clubs make and instigate their plans.
For all the Agar haters his job is to keep Wakefield out of the bottom 2 and the next 2 fixtures could very well define his future in coaching.
I appreciate it is tough but everyone in Wakefield must get behind the club, players and coach. I have no doubt the focus on the next few weeks will have had a negative influence on recent form but we are now at the point if poop or bust and I expect the club to respond.'"
Your points are valid but you have not had to watch some of the shizzle and baffling selections that have been served up regularly.
It gets to you after a while!
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| I have been down more weeks than not and shared the frustrations believe me!!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Your points are valid but you have not had to watch some of the shizzle and baffling selections that have been served up regularly.
It gets to you after a while!'"
TBF he's seen some of it cos I saw him at a game.
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| So you will understand that fans want to back the club, players and the coach but when the coach continually meddles with team selection and positions and comes out with geling issues.
Every man and his dog could see that Sammut and Godinet are the best HB pairing at the club and were starting to get things going, until Siejka got his passport and made one in.
To relegate Godinet to the bench as rotation hooker is bananas.
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| Slightly off topic but I really wanted Harry Siejka to perform, I thought he had a good kicking game when he came over but I now realise that for us to move forward we need to have Sammut and Godinet in the halves. Wildie to spell of the bench with McShane.
To stay on topic a positive is that Agent XIII or whatever is long gone of these boards (old news I know)
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"
To stay on topic a positive is that Agent XIII or whatever is long gone of these boards (old news I know)'"
Think you will find his brother Pimpernel is filling the void!
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"So you will understand that fans want to back the club, players and the coach but when the coach continually meddles with team selection and positions and comes out with geling issues.
Every man and his dog could see that Sammut and Godinet are the best HB pairing at the club and were starting to get things going, until Siejka got his passport and made one in.
To relegate Godinet to the bench as rotation hooker is bananas.'"
Mathers and Siejka are poor but I actually like Sammut as a 1, he and Walshaw were about the only positives against Hudds away.
If you get the right halves I think he would be best used there but at the moment the halves are not firing so he needs to play there.
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| It was never purely about who the best halfbacks were though was it?
They may well be the best 6 & 7 but Mathers was going through a bad spell, McShane was playing 80 minutes etc....it was about trying to get the best balance and experimenting to see how things went...Sammut has done very well at full back (and is still a great option there for me) and we did win 2 VITAL games with those combinations.....away at Widnes....a bonus win if you like....where both Siejka & Sykes at HB played well and both gave big contributions in winning the game....as did Sammut at FB and Godinet at interchange hooker....
We don't know...Sammut may have been planned to go back into the halves earlier but real lack of wing options through injury has meant Mathers has stayed there.....I don't personally see the result of any of those 5 straight losses being any different if JS & PG had been the halves....
Sykes & Siejka between them definitely had their poorest collective game so far in the halves for me on Sunday so I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of Sammut or Godinet back there on Sunday....
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| Quote ="upthecats"It was never purely about who the best halfbacks were though was it?
They may well be the best 6 & 7 but Mathers was going through a bad spell, McShane was playing 80 minutes etc....it was about trying to get the best balance and experimenting to see how things went...Sammut has done very well at full back (and is still a great option there for me) and we did win 2 VITAL games with those combinations.....away at Widnes....a bonus win if you like....where both Siejka & Sykes at HB played well and both gave big contributions in winning the game....as did Sammut at FB and Godinet at interchange hooker....
We don't know...Sammut may have been planned to go back into the halves earlier but real lack of wing options through injury has meant Mathers has stayed there.....I don't personally see the result of any of those 5 straight losses being any different if JS & PG had been the halves....
Sykes & Siejka between them definitely had their poorest collective game so far in the halves for me on Sunday so I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of Sammut or Godinet back there on Sunday....'"
Now we have Riley and Owen for the wings, Mathers should drop back to FB and Sammut move in the halves. Godinet replacing Sykes would be a bonus but I wouldn't lay any money on it.
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| Trouble is when you put Sammut at full back you practically do away with his off the cuff play that can turn a game on its head like you have when hes at six.Godinet is a waste on the bench and should be on from the start at seven and put Wildie as interchange with Mcshane.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Now we have Riley and Owen for the wings, Mathers should drop back to FB and Sammut move in the halves. Godinet replacing Sykes would be a bonus but I wouldn't lay any money on it.'"
No good that, you've put players in their right position, wouldn't work!
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| Quote ="les-goose"Trouble is when you put Sammut at full back you practically do away with his off the cuff play that can turn a game on its head like you have when hes at six.Godinet is a waste on the bench and should be on from the start at seven and put Wildie as interchange with Mcshane.'"
From what I have seen which I admitt is not every match he has more time and space to do the off the cuff plays at 1. Full back is now basically the traditional 6 working as a second receiver on both sides of the field with the lads wearing 6 & 7 both being traditional first receiving 7's.
If you can get the halves right I think that is where he must play (at 1) but until you do it is probably best to use him in the halves with Godinet.
I personally in if using him in the halves would use Owen at 1, I wouldn't have Mathers anywhere near a shirt.
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| Quote ="jonh"From what I have seen which I admitt is not every match he has more time and space to do the off the cuff plays at 1. Full back is now basically the traditional 6 working as a second receiver on both sides of the field with the lads wearing 6 & 7 both being traditional first receiving 7's.
If you can get the halves right I think that is where he must play (at 1) but until you do it is probably best to use him in the halves with Godinet.
I personally in if using him in the halves would use Owen at 1, I wouldn't have Mathers anywhere near a shirt.'"
Have you got Mick Carter's number, we could do with a coach that talks some sense
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| Have to agree would use Owen at full back as for me Mathers wont get a new contract at the end of this season and its showing in his efforts.Owen also younger and faster at bringing the ball back up and wont be half hearted in effort though some have marked his card after one game as garbage.
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| IMHO we need Sammutt and Godinet as the first choice half-backs. Mathers back to full back, as he is a waste of a shirt (and a liability) sulking on the wing, and have either Siejka or Wildie at interchange hooker with McShane.
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