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| Quote ="desmond decker"carry him too a pen and make him sign best centre we have had in years when fully fit still dont think we use him enough though'"
Agree. Will we ever do that with any centre? If we had Inglis and were down to 12 men we'd still probably pile it up the middle!
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| I think we have improved and are using our centres more effectively compared to a few seasons past.
Collis is a quality centre and has that ability to turn on the pace and beat a man. Be happy to see him stay.
Good to see he is happy at wakefield. Who wouldn't be with this fine weather ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Gets my vote, a pleasure to watch.
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| He's majestic when he opens up and gets on the outside of his opposite number - strong too, with a good fend and offload game.
I sincerely hope we get him signed, as I'm sure other SL coaches have spotted his class.
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| best centre we've have for years, great news! Cant remember anybody else we've had in centre with the ability open up the defence like him since probably Sid Domic....??
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| He runs out of contract next year (2014) So he'll be turning on 29 that year I'd give him another 2 year deal and if he keeps playing like he is now give him another one because he is a quality centre.
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| Well if hes happy at the club why not hes playing well enough and I still think we will see him get even better.
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| Quote ="bren2k"He's majestic when he opens up and gets on the outside of his opposite number - strong too, with a good fend and offload game.
I sincerely hope we get him signed, as I'm sure other SL coaches have spotted his class.'"
Agree in the main, a very good centre and I don't remember one at Belle Vue for a very long time who had the same amount of class. Runs cracking lines, pacey, great fend as you say and not too shabby in defence either.
The only part of the post I would take slight issue is the offload game - in my opinion this is the part of the game he is missing and it is this that "holds him back" from going on to bigger and better things. In a perverse way, it's probably a good thing for us that he doesn't have one because if he did I reckon he would be too difficult and/or expensive to keep hold of for us.
Fingers crossed we keep hold of him, glad to see him enjoying things cos quality classy players like that don't come along every day.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Agree in the main, a very good centre and I don't remember one at Belle Vue for a very long time who had the same amount of class. Runs cracking lines, pacey, great fend as you say and not too shabby in defence either.
The only part of the post I would take slight issue is the offload game - in my opinion this is the part of the game he is missing and it is this that "holds him back" from going on to bigger and better things. In a perverse way, it's probably a good thing for us that he doesn't have one because if he did I reckon he would be too difficult and/or expensive to keep hold of for us.
Fingers crossed we keep hold of him, glad to see him enjoying things cos quality classy players like that don't come along every day.'"
Seriously
I suppose we all see it differently but I see no issue there at all and neither does my friend and mentor Richard.
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| I spoke with Richard Agar yesterday - he said that won't be making a decision on Dean's future until he's had chance to have a chat with Vastman.
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| I agree with the offload comment, sometimes the winger would be free if only he could get the pass out.
He's flown under my radar to be honest, steady away player who i've not yet seen stand out.
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| Quote ="18th Man"I agree with the offload comment, sometimes the winger would be free if only he could get the pass out.
He's flown under my radar to be honest, steady away player who i've not yet seen stand out.'"
Really???
Not sure who you're watching but it doesn't appear to be Collis
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| Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.
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| Sign him up ASAP. He's all class.
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| Quote Wakefield Wildcats @WTWildcatsRL Wildcats centre Dean Collis has directly been involved in more Trinity scores than anybody in 2013 with 6 tries & 7 assists '"
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
No one has called him amazing, come on.
He's a good quality import.
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| Quote ="vastman"Seriously
I suppose we all see it differently but I see no issue there at all and neither does my friend and mentor Richard.'"
Yup, I have not seen anything from him to convince me he has an offload game, and seen as he seems to have a decent amounts of all the other traits of a good centre then yes, it's the weakest part of his game for me, and the thing that (luckily for us) means he is with us rather than at the likes of Leeds or Wigan or even still in the NRL.
Centres need many attributes but their main objective is to put their winger way, he is very good at making space for his winger but the thing that separates a good centre from an exceptional one is the offload - and this is something he simply doesn't have in his armoury from what I have seen from him. Look at the best couple of centres we have seen over here for many, many years in Lyon and Gidley (and probably the best centre in the league right now in Joel Moon) - the main thing that set them apart from the rest was their ability to get rid of the ball in contact.
Agree with the general sentiment though, he's a good player and we should be doing everything within our power (bank balance permitting) to try and keep hold of him.
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
To me Collis always looks dangerous when he gets his hands on the ball, Even when the rest of the team arnt issueing any attacking threat.
He`s made 10 CLEAN breaks so far this season, 1 less than ben cockayne, also 34 tackle busts ! To me hes our most consistant player and very rarely has a bad game. but i still think that there is more to come from him.#
I certainly dont think that he gets `Bigged up more than he deserves` if anything its the opposite for me.
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| Quote ="18th Man"Honestly, i think he gets bigged up a bit more than he deserves, I think he's ok but I haven't yet seen evidence of what makes people think he's amazing.'"
It's funny because I'd say he's under rated, we hardly ever have topics about him, just the comments in match threads saying he's had a good game.
The thing I like about Collis is that he's a proper . He's all about creating space to put the winger away, he usually always makes things happen on the ball & constantly beats the player in front of him, massively consistent as well.
I say if Collis wants a new contract, give him one.
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| No brainer this one, get him signed up now. Best centre we've had for a good few years, other than Domic I don't think there has been anyone as good for us in the SL era.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"No brainer this one, get him signed up now. Best centre we've had for a good few years, other than Domic I don't think there has been anyone as good for us in the SL era.'"
TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.
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| Quote ="vastman"TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.'"
Atkins was more of a battering ram though - probably down to how we used him to be fair, but he usually ended up trying to smash his way through defenders rather than beating them on the run like Collis. The reliance on Atkins' power was demonstrated for me when Millard arrived and we tried to use him the same way, and he was unable to deliver - hence we never really saw his 'magic' in SL until he went to Catalans.
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| Quote ="vastman"TBF I think Atkins was better. Not going to bag the lad because he left, he was damned exciting to watch if a bit raw.'"
Atkins was good for us no doubt but as you say very raw and very one dimensional at the time. For me Collis is the better all round centre, or at least more of a finished product, during their respective times with us. Atkins these days though has gained more aspects to his game and has bolossomed at Warrington.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Atkins was good for us no doubt but as you say very raw and very one dimensional at the time. For me Collis is the better all round centre, or at least more of a finished product, during their respective times with us. Atkins these days though has gained more aspects to his game and has bolossomed at Warrington.'"
I am of course referring to the Atkins of today who I believe is better than Collis but he would be as Atkins athleticism is a rarity - in terms of technique I agree.
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| Another great pass from Collis to put fox in...
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