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| Quote ="St. Chunter"what about the fat ginner. surely he's worth a go?'"
I think the difficulty is that he is on a part time contract so could not train with the first team. Part time players are okay for the odd game but we need a front row for a month or more.
I would bring someone in as I think we need some firepower in the front row until Moore, Stosic or Bibby return. Stosic and Bibby are 8 weeks plus away and I heard that Moore could be 4 to 6 weeks.
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| An optimist might say that we are shaping up for a very impressive end of season, with the amount of players who will be back and raring to go.
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| funny that, i said the other day that if things drop right we are all set for a cup run, wed have a hell of a pack available in about 8 weeks all fresh and all raring!
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| Even with everybody back IMO we are short up front.
Are we asking too much of Bibb, Pitts and Fergy???
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| Quote ="deeHell"Please no!'"
he was approached in pre season but matterson wouldnt let him go but now hes not getting any first team game time i believe waky have asked for him for a spell on loan again. thats what i was told in lloyds bar by his agent anyway
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| I defo think we need at least one other out and out prop forward.
IMHO I think we missed out big time on not signing Thackray up last season when we had the chance. He's exactly the type of big, strong, aggresive forward we are missing in my opinion.
If he's not getting into the Hull side then I think we should defo be interested in taking him on loan if possible.
Korki will not make the team at Shudds and he maybe another option. kear had him playing well before he left and I'm sure JK and Beans could weave their magic with him.
Other than a few options thats already been mentioned, I'm not sure there's that many other options available in SL.
IMHO I'd be tempted to look in NL1 and see if there's any more rough diamonds we can tempt to join us. The big lad Simpson at Batley must surely be worth a look. He's got the size. If we could get him fit he "could" potential be worth a gamble.
I'm sure there are a few players i can't think of now in SL who aren't currently making their relevant club starting 17 but would they be right for us?
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"I defo think we need at least one other out and out prop forward.
IMHO I think we missed out big time on not signing Thackray up last season when we had the chance. He's exactly the type of big, strong, aggresive forward we are missing in my opinion.
If he's not getting into the Hull side then I think we should defo be interested in taking him on loan if possible.
Korki will not make the team at Shudds and he maybe another option. kear had him playing well before he left and I'm sure JK and Beans could weave their magic with him.
Other than a few options thats already been mentioned, I'm not sure there's that many other options available in SL.
IMHO I'd be tempted to look in NL1 and see if there's any more rough diamonds we can tempt to join us. The big lad Simpson at Batley must surely be worth a look. He's got the size. If we could get him fit he "could" potential be worth a gamble.
I'm sure there are a few players i can't think of now in SL who aren't currently making their relevant club starting 17 but would they be right for us?'"
When was that then We never had the chance because we were never willing to pay the cash he wanted and duly pee off the rest of the pack and use up every spare penny we had. Stosic was a far better option - the fact that he is now injured is a hindsight issue. It's never that simple, at the start of this season we had 4 out and out props and three others capable of playing in the front row, it would have been lunacy to sign anymore. Sometimes the dice won't tumble your way, but by july we might have Moore and Bibey back and there won't be a problem.
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| Quote ="vastman"When was that then
We never had the chance because we were never willing to pay the cash he wanted and duly pee off the rest of the pack and use up every spare penny we had. Stosic was a far better option - the fact that he is now injured is a hindsight issue. It's never that simple, at the start of this season we had 4 out and out props and three others capable of playing in the front row, it would have been lunacy to sign anymore. Sometimes the dice won't tumble your way, but by july we might have Moore and Bibey back and there won't be a problem.'"
Also, if his recovery and rehab go to plan Stosic should be back early June.
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| korki is currently starring as substitute for the huddersfield 2nds
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| Quote ="desmond decker"korki is currently starring as substitute for the huddersfield 2nds
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I'm sure though to a small section of their reserve team following he is a 'crowd pleaser'.
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| Quote ="bloomers"I'm sure though to a small section of their reserve team following he is a 'crowd pleaser'.'"
I like Korki, he's ace
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I like Korki, he's ace
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He's an enigma wrapped up in a conundrum smothered in marmite - he really does divide opinion.
For me he was the right player in 2003, if he's all that's on offer now then Ricky Bibey's enhanced contract should be posted imediately
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| Quote ="vastman"He's an enigma wrapped up in a conundrum smothered in marmite - he really does divide opinion.
For me he was the right player in 2003, if he's all that's on offer now then Ricky Bibey's enhanced contract should be posted imediately
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Oh i agree Rickey deserves a bigger contract, anyway back to Korki and the fact that he's the best
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| You guys are so fickle. Last season Ricky Bibey was worse than s...
and all of a sudden after 3 or 4 half decent games he's a star! God help us all.
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| Quote ="bigoaf"You guys are so fickle. Last season Ricky Bibey was worse than s...
and all of a sudden after 3 or 4 half decent games he's a star! God help us all.'"
Not to everyone he wasn't just those that don't understand the game
Not every prop in the game can be a block buster, every team needs one of those that just works away at the opposition and wears them down, he's ours, got to say as well that if the runners backed him up a bit more he's got a great pair of hands for a prop, if those that lauded Scully for his off loading and ball work took a bit more notice of what Bibey does they might see that he is on par with him, the problem is that we don't play a game that allows us to take advantage of good off loading props.
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| Quote ="bigoaf"You guys are so fickle. Last season Ricky Bibey was worse than s...
and all of a sudden after 3 or 4 half decent games he's a star! God help us all.'"
I certainly wasn't, and if you would care to go back through my post (if you can be bothered) I can back that up. I have always rated Bibey within his own limitations as have a fair few others. It's the word limitations that counts.
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| Quote ="vastman"He's an enigma wrapped up in a conundrum smothered in marmite -
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I misread that comment as:
Quote ="vastman"He's an enigma wrapped up in a condom smothered in marmite -
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and it took me back to an experience I once had when playing at Wakefield and these two girls . . . . . actually I'd better keep that one to myself!
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| Quote ="Catnap"Not to everyone he wasn't
just those that don't understand the game
Not every prop in the game can be a block buster, every team needs one of those that just works away at the opposition and wears them down, he's ours, got to say as well that if the runners backed him up a bit more he's got a great pair of hands for a prop, if those that lauded Scully for his off loading and ball work took a bit more notice of what Bibey does they might see that he is on par with him, the problem is that we don't play a game that allows us to take advantage of good off loading props.'"
agree with a lot of the sentiment but from my point of view there was a chunk of last season when bibey wasn't actually doing what we agree he is good at. he was not laying any real platform, being dominated in the tackle and he was missing too many tackles. thankfully this season he appears to be back doing what he was in most of his first season and the first part of last year (when admittedly the whole squad was playing well)
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| Mossop at Wigan is a cracking prospect and the best out of all the others named on this thread IMO
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| Quote ="The Clan"I misread that comment as:
and it took me back to an experience I once had when playing at Wakefield and these two girls . . . . . actually I'd better keep that one to myself!
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Not in front of the children please
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I can't help thinking wev'e missed a trick here, Mossop is a rare tallent and would have certainly done well for us and might just have been a revelation.
I thought he might be available on loan, just a gut feeling, he is at that stage of his career, ready for the big time but just can't displace anyone to get his chance. Wigan, with Hanson, O'Loughlin, Tomkins, Hock, Bailey etc are well served in the second row.
Like I said once here, as with Atkins, you never know!
www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/barrow ... th=raiders
viewtopic.php?t=404004
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I can't help thinking wev'e missed a trick here, Mossop is a rare tallent and would have certainly done well for us and might just have been a revelation.
I thought he might be available on loan, just a gut feeling, he is at that stage of his career, ready for the big time but just can't displace anyone to get his chance. Wigan, with Hanson, O'Loughlin, Tomkins, Hock, Bailey etc are well served in the second row.
Like I said once here, as with Atkins, you never know!
www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/barrow ... th=raiders
viewtopic.php?t=404004
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| Quote ="Catnap"Not to everyone he wasn't
just those that don't understand the game
Not every prop in the game can be a block buster, every team needs one of those that just works away at the opposition and wears them down, he's ours, got to say as well that if the runners backed him up a bit more he's got a great pair of hands for a prop, if those that lauded Scully for his off loading and ball work took a bit more notice of what Bibey does they might see that he is on par with him, the problem is that we don't play a game that allows us to take advantage of good off loading props.'"
Bibey is tripe....any other observation shows you dont understand the game.
2 performances in 2 years dont make a decent super league prop. Offer Bibey to any super league club and with the exception of the tripe, every coach would rather play mellow.
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| Quote ="Quel Suprise!"Bibey is tripe....any other observation shows you dont understand the game.
2 performances in 2 years dont make a decent super league prop. Offer Bibey to any super league club and with the exception of the tripe, every coach would rather play mellow.'"
OBVIOSLY your opinion is the only one that counts, Wonder if JK is ready to give you his job yet.
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| Quote ="Quel Suprise!"Bibey is tripe....any other observation shows you dont understand the game.
2 performances in 2 years dont make a decent super league prop. Offer Bibey to any super league club and with the exception of the tripe, every coach would rather play mellow.'"
You and JK have obviously got different ideas' about Bibey. He seems to think that Bibey has a role to play in the team and you as you have so eloquently put it do not. Perhaps a compromise could be reached here, why dont you get him to ring you to sort out your differences' over him Kear comes across as a very understanding man and I am sure when you have explained things to him he will see that he has been wasting his time with him. Just dont mention the lightbulbs' in the toilets. Oh and for what its worth I agree with you that Catnap doesnt understand the game been telling him that for ages
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