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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Interesting reading with some of you trying to justify the signing of Cockayne, the same people would have a different viewpoint if he was signing for Cas. Hypocrisy, dontcha just love it?'"
... and vice versa if it was your lot.
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| Bit of a paycut from the £90,000 he was on at KR
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| The point being Agar is interested, so can't see anything but him walking out on belle vue turf next season
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"The point being Agar is interested, so can't see anything but him walking out on belle vue turf next season'"
I think he'll do a good job for us - just hope he stays out of bother. I draw the line at McGoldrick though.
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| Quote ="newwildcat"I think he'll do a good job for us - just hope he stays out of bother. I draw the line at McGoldrick though.'"
At least Cockayne has some redeeming featues on the pitch, McGoldrick for me has neither!
I could justify signing BC on a 1 year deal with an escape clause, I could not for the life of me justify signing an on-field cowardly thug like RM.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"He's been talking to Agar, if he's offered £40,000 a year he will be a wakey player, otherwise he's off to a NRL feeder club'"
And you know this how?
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Interesting reading with some of you trying to justify the signing of Cockayne, the same people would have a different viewpoint if he was signing for Cas. Hypocrisy, dontcha just love it?'"
Think it's called different opinions TBH
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| Would he be allowed into Oz with his record? Some players just don't get how lucky they are to get paid fortunes to play rugby do they.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"... and vice versa if it was your lot.
Your point is?
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My point is that there are a lot of hypocritical supporters, that you will overlook his off-field 'misdemeanours' because he is signing for you but woe betide if he signs for any other club then he will become the devil incarnate.
The man is poison and should have no place in a professional sporting arena, he attracts the wrong kind of media attention and has been in more than enough 'last chance saloons'.
All, in my very humble opinion of course.
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| Quote ="vastman"And you know this how?'"
From't os'es mouth
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"My point is that there are a lot of hypocritical supporters, that you will overlook his off-field 'misdemeanours' because he is signing for you but woe betide if he signs for any other club then he will become the devil incarnate.
The man is poison and should have no place in a professional sporting arena, he attracts the wrong kind of media attention and has been in more than enough 'last chance saloons'.
All, in my very humble opinion of course.'"
Hmmmm
Ryan McGoldrick, Rangi Chase
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"My point is that there are a lot of hypocritical supporters, that you will overlook his off-field 'misdemeanours' because he is signing for you but woe betide if he signs for any other club then he will become the devil incarnate.
The man is poison and should have no place in a professional sporting arena, he attracts the wrong kind of media attention and has been in more than enough 'last chance saloons'.
All, in my very humble opinion of course.'"
... and as I say this would happen [iwherever[/i he was reported to be signing for.
Not rocket science to work that out is it?
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| Quote ="Fordy"Hmmmm
Ryan McGoldrick, Rangi Chase'"
Are you seriously comparing those two to Cockayne? Every club has its bad apple(s) but Cockayne is in a different league altogether.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"... and as I say this would happen [iwherever[/i he was reported to be signing for.
Not rocket science to work that out is it?
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I dunno, some clubs are worse? better? at hypocrisy than others ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"I dunno, some clubs are worse? better? at hypocrisy than others
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I agree, Cas fans are definitely worse!
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| The thing is we tend to make rugby players out whiter than white as they play in our family friendly sport where the fans can all mingle together and have a good time without any trouble.
The true reality is alot of young players are horrible, arrogant idiots who walk round thinking they're the big i am. I see alot of Wakey players up town and think do i really contributing to these idiots wages but as i love the club i still go. The problem is if we didnt sign Cockayne another team would due to his ability, so for me if we can support Greg Johnson we should surely be able to support Cockayne
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| Quote ="Humphrey" I see alot of Wakey players up town and think do i really contributing to these idiots wages '"
Whenever i've bumped into the Wakey players on a night out they've always been a good laugh and happy to chat.
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| Quote ="charlie"Whenever i've bumped into the Wakey players on a night out they've always been a good laugh and happy to chat.'"
You met me know because I'm having an OK day we would get on great. If you met me after an argument with the wife and steaming drunk you might not. Players are the same as the rest of us and thus all things are relative I suppose. It's something some people can't or won't accept.
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| Quote ="Humphrey"The problem is if we didnt sign Cockayne another team would due to his ability'"
That doesn't have to be a problem - let them sign him.
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| Quote ="bren2k"That doesn't have to be a problem - let them sign him.'"
Well why do we have to be the team that has to take the moral high ground and lose out? Knowing our luck he'll probably score the winning try against us that'll stop us reaching the play offs or something similar. If we allow Greg Johnson to play for us well i cant see why we should have different standards for Cockayne
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| Quote ="Humphrey"Well why do we have to be the team that has to take the moral high ground and lose out? Knowing our luck he'll probably score the winning try against us that'll stop us reaching the play offs or something similar. If we allow Greg Johnson to play for us well i cant see why we should have different standards for Cockayne'"
Not happy with Greg Johnson playingfor us now he has pleaded guilty to the attack.
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| Quote ="Humphrey"Well why do we have to be the team that has to take the moral high ground and lose out? Knowing our luck he'll probably score the winning try against us that'll stop us reaching the play offs or something similar. If we allow Greg Johnson to play for us well i cant see why we should have different standards for Cockayne'"
Because it's the right thing to do? Sometimes there's value in that.
As for Johnson - I had misgivings at the time he was signed and if you recall, I was a vociferous opponent of those Shudds fans who claimed they were doing us a favour by 'giving' him to us; they weren't, they were releasing a fringe player who could prove to be a PR nightmare and in the event, was, but for us not for them - shortly after he signed, the Wakefield Express ran a front page picture of the girl who had been assaulted with a pretty inflammatory headline that did WTW no favours at all.
However, in this country we're innocent until proven guilty, so I kept my powder dry; if he's since been found guilty, then we should take strong action both to do the right thing and be seen to be doing the right thing.
I realise I may come across as a bit holier than thou in all of this - maybe that because I am; I want my club to have standards and scruples that it won't compromise.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Speaking to him last night and he knows its last chance saloon wherever he goes. He's prepared to start any contract on a final warning and is determined not to screw things up one last time. Give the lad a chance and I'm sure his performances on the pitch will brng you round if he does sign. If he signs support him whilst hes here, you don't have to speak to him off the pitch if you don't want to but if he pulls on the shirt then he deserves the same respect of the next man. Like vasty says theres plenty of bad boys out there and in Latu who was done for breaking a womans nose on a garage forecourt then in my opinion we've had worse! I backed Latu and I'll back Ben, in fact I'll back Ben even more as I know the bloke and know far more about him than whats just been printed in the papers. I'm not saying he's an angel, but he's the sort of bloke that would do anything he can to help out whether he knows you or not, believe it or not he's a kind hearted bloke.'"
Well said! I honestly wish we hadn't let him go. Whatever you think about him off the pitch he will give you 100% on it if this deal goes through. I bear him no grudges whatsoever, he's done some daft things, he'd put his hand up to that, but he's also served our club well on the pitch and was always happy to spend time with the fans.
I wish him all the very best and if that is with you and he does prove himself, I hope you appreciate him.
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| Get Him Signed up he will go well for us can play a few posistions
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| Quote ="Humphrey"Well why do we have to be the team that has to take the moral high ground and lose out? Knowing our luck he'll probably score the winning try against us that'll stop us reaching the play offs or something similar. If we allow Greg Johnson to play for us well i cant see why we should have different standards for Cockayne'"
A We should never have signed GJ.
B We should not sign BC.
C We should give the chance to a young fullback and invest the money that way.
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