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| Kendall was shocking, he's not physically or mentally fit enough to officiate at this level. Several poor decisions because he seemed unwilling to back his own conviction and several more because he's not fit enough to keep up with the speed of play
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Have to say i cringed at that, set himself and us up for a fall there. It was his daft high tackle kust after he had done it that gave Cas field position for their last try as well and because of that Cas and their fans visibly lifted. Save it until the end Dave.'"
No it was his penalty that gave them the position for the drop goal. Huby and Toupou not communicating on the short kick off led to the last cas try
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| Kendal was poor tonight but not seen him ref a good game yet.
Not going to bag the ref here, I think we were the destinies of our own downfall tonight.
Too many errors and missed tackles. We also allowed them to offload too many times
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"No it was his penalty that gave them the position for the drop goal. Huby and Toupou not communicating on the short kick off led to the last cas try'"
Apologies yes, getting the cock-ups confused.
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| We managed to lose that game tonight 3 times, from 16-0 to 16-18 then from 24-18 to 24-24 finally 24-25, ref was dog poop for both sides and wasn't the reason we lost, we've come a long way this season and have kept it to just 1 point against the stand out team of the season, disappointed but not dissheartened, I think we will still get 2 wins from our final 3 games and may just sneak that 4th spot, could have been a far worse season so i will take it
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Apologies yes, getting the cock-ups confused.'"
No worries, just frustrating we failed to field the inevitable short kick off and let them equal the score straightaway. We are rubbish at dealing with short kick offs can't remember the last time we dealt with one
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| Play like that and we'll beat Widnes and Saints and be there or there abouts for the four come the split.
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| Chris Kendall had another fantastic game tonight, our (Leigh) owner Derek Beaumont copped a 2K fine for 'singling him out as an awful referee' money well spent, I say.
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| Good game, said before the game I'd be happy if we compete well and give them a good game and in the end was sluffened with the result. Proud of the lads we are a good team this year, hope this game hasn't knocked the team too much and we can kick on and learn from it.
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| Good as the result was for us tonight, I felt for you at the end. With a competent referee I think you would have won.
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| Ish, yeah, we lost all momentum at the beginning of the 2nd half, and that sorta laid the platform for Cas for the rest of the game.
The 2 mistakes early on, Arundle's drop and grix's high ball miss really gave them the impetus they were denied in the first half.
When we put 80 minutes together, no mistakes and high completion, there is no coming back for the opposition.
I mean, there were lots of things that happened afterwards, but the cat was already out the bag, you've just gotta squeeze for the 80, we couldn't do that turning the ball over and not completing in the 2nd half.
Not sure Cas didn't go in to this game with a bit of "we only have to turn up" mentality really, they were a bit lackadaisical and didn't respect Wakey all through the game, mebbe they thought it would be a walk in the park after doing the codheads the week before, I dunno.
Anyway, we gave them a route to win, and they took it.
Still, we've come a long way from the 1st game, clearly there is no reason why we can't take these last 2 games if we roll it for 80.
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| Quote ="caslad75"I'll sample that Snowie! Cheers!'"
Cracking pint that was Snowie, best pint of ale I've ever had inside a ground.
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| Difference tonight: once again our inability to have a decent kick on the last tackle. Not once did we build pressure. Not once did we force a repeat set and not once did we kick for touch. I see no one comment on this week in and week out and it is blindingly obvious And our inability to deal with a short kick off. Can't remmeber the last time we won the ball back at a short kick off.. 24-18 and I turned to my mate and said cas will score and kick a drop goal to win. That's how predictable we are. Hapy we came close but can't hide the disappointment in the manner we lost. 6 points up with 8 mins to go against the best teams you need to be smarter and there is the difference.
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| Spot on Adam Harrison.
Our last tackle plays regarding kicks is dire.
I havent commented but noticed the same against Leeds.
Worrying thing is most come from Finn. His goal kicking is good but still far fom convinced on last tackle plays. Im a big believer in kick only as good as the chase, but it works the other way too.
Another worrying thing was the same player missed about 3 tackles in 5 minutes.
Is it a bit too much, for Finn to go round again next year
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| disagree with you turning on Liam Finn. You had very little territory on the second half due to your forwards running out of gas somewhat, Cas handling you a little better and above all you made more handling errors.
Finn has contributed far more to Trinity's great season so far then Sam Williams.
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| Finn can't do much when the opposition are on top of him as he takes the kick, this is a combination of being slower from dummy half and officials not properly enforcing when defending players are offside and only having to make up 8m instead of 10m.
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| aDavid fifita cost us another point= lazy lazy lay high tackle when we would of held out for a draw... that's 3points now cause of his his play. our errors in the second half were terrible that one off the first tackle from the scrum was the game changer
did sam Williams even play?
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| Quote ="BOJ042"aDavid fifita cost us another point= lazy lazy lay high tackle when we would of held out for a draw... that's 3points now cause of his his play. our errors in the second half were terrible that one off the first tackle from the scrum was the game changer
did sam Williams even play?'"
Your insight into the game is worth a subscription!
How come you never post when we win?
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| Liam Finn outplayed Sam Williams I thought for you. Didn't really notice Sam Williams was on the field for long parts.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Spot on Adam Harrison.
Our last tackle plays regarding kicks is dire.
I havent commented but noticed the same against Leeds.
Worrying thing is most come from Finn. His goal kicking is good but still far fom convinced on last tackle plays. Im a big believer in kick only as good as the chase, but it works the other way too.
Another worrying thing was the same player missed about 3 tackles in 5 minutes.
Is it a bit too much, for Finn to go round again next year'"
Poor kicking against Leeds also cost us and Moon kicked us to death.
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| Quote ="Towns88"disagree with you turning on Liam Finn. You had very little territory on the second half due to your forwards running out of gas somewhat, Cas handling you a little better and above all you made more handling errors.
Finn has contributed far more to Trinity's great season so far then Sam Williams.'"
I agree. Sam Williams has to offer far more in the kicking department on the field in my opinion. His in play kicking is not good enough at the minute. Finn I can almost excuse because he has been very good in other departments but an import needs to be better at doing the basics of being a halfback. Being half decent at kicking is one of those requirements.
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| It wasnt so much an attack, more of an observation.
He has been good for us, but he does rarely turn opposing teams back three round on kicks.
His missed tackles last night could indicate that hes worn out. Wont he be 34 next season.
I did make a comment the other day regarding try assists about him.leading it. Those stats dont lie.
FWIW, I was expecting more from Williams as an NRL player, but just maybe he maybe starting to settle in.
I dont know if anyone saw last night that when we were struggling to get back into the game he was very vocal in trying to lift the team
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"Only decisions I thought at the time went badly against us were the two on one steal, which looked blatant even from the back of the north stand, and the Hadley offload followed by a Cas player fumbling round with it which was given as a Wakey knock on.'"
Same for me. The Hadley offload was a particularly shocking decision, there were actually two Cas knock-ons in that, the fumble on the ground and a Cas player touched it previously as Hadley offloaded. How Cas got the put in at the scrum from that I don't know!
The kick obstruction when England got penalised also looked harsh at the time, not seen the replay.
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| Guttes to lose that one, even though I went expecting a Cas win.
We seemed to have every 50/50 call go against us.
On the plus side, we gave Cas one hell of a dig and i their current form, we should be happy with that.
Yet another game of 2 halves and we were very unlucky not to get something from the game but, if we play like that for the rest of the season I'll be very happy.
There were some superb efforts, Tupou had one of his best games, Arona and Hadley are super consistent and we really rattled them. Also, Wood is getting better and better.
On to Widnes and hopefully back to winning ways.
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| Arona must've been nailed on for MotM had we won. The guy is a machine.
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