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| maybe we should wait and see exactly who is owed what before jumping to any conclusions.
as the lines between wakefield trinity s accounts and those of ted richardson seem to be somewhat blurred.
it is common sense that no one would buy the club from ted as they could not be sure
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b. whether it was his to sell
presumabley this was the reason anyone intending buying the club would choose this route.
we all hope this is a totally different case to crusaders admin, where the same owners simply carried on minus the debts. as no one here wants this to be the case in wakefield.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I fear you are going to get a tide of Fax fans on here now baying for blood in their ridiculous belief that they should be in SL over you now that the licencing dead line approaches. '"
That happened didn't it?
That's the difference between Fax fans and Leigh fans. Expectations and a dose of reality. Get some TV boy
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| It's about time the RFL started to support teams in the heartland of rugby league instead of bending over backwards to expand to places with little or no interest.
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| Quote ="roader"It's about time the RFL started to support teams in the heartland of rugby league instead of bending over backwards to expand to places with little or no interest.'"
HERE HERE for once we should all be as 1 for this Lets not forget without the heartland clubs and in this i do mean our very own widnes you could forget about rugby league as we know it.They say we need to expand but a what cost and where does it stop before they kill the game .Dont be fooled, they need most of the heartland clubs and they know it we was the past and still are the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"icon_biggrin.gifANCE:
Your inept and have been for years.
Uncle Maurice called this over a decade ago.
Let's hope we can finally move on some of his plans that should have been forced on you all those years ago.'"
So you were Uncle Maurices Rentboy.
I claim my £5
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| Just merge with Castleford and Featherstone and form Calder
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| Quote ="NZ Bull"Just merge with Castleford and Featherstone and form Calder
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Hilarious, no really.
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| get boring aye
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| What will probably happen if a big money investor comes in is that they will want promises from the RFL that they will get a SL spot from 2012 onwards otherwise what is the point in investing. Interesting to see what happens but you would n't want to chuck your money in if you get kicked out in 12 months would you?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Pre packs seldom actually work - the problem with them is the same people who got them into trouble are the very people who are going to run the new company? In this case Ted and Denise!!!
Most creditors have become very wary of pre-packs and as a result the promised holy grail simply fails to materialise - obtaining credit is difficult so cash flow gets squeezed as the owners are usually overtrading.
Wakey have little/no chance of getting a franchise - so in the short term they would be better dropping down a division with a view to doing a Widnes and rebuilding for the round of franchises in 4 years time'"
This is where posters like you fall down. Should we gain a new owner who matches RFL requirements and Newmarket takes a positive turn (watch this space) then we have every chance of gaining a franchise.
The only reason there is any interest in the club is down to Newmarket, which may end up being Teds great legacy not that he will get any credit. No one wants a BV based Trinity, that club died yesterrday. Everyone wants a Newmarket based Wildcats including the RFL, that is the potential club they are after. That's the trump card and the only game in town, I'd suggest that the amount of interest in the club leads me to believe there is a lot of life left in Newmarket and thus Trinity reborn
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"icon_biggrin.gifANCE:
Your inept and have been for years.
Uncle Maurice called this over a decade ago.
Let's hope we can finally move on some of his plans that should have been forced on you all those years ago.'"
Didnt your squeaky clean club cheat to stay in sl by getting noble and signing fielden.Some people have short or selective memories and should remember what comes around goes around,wigan will not always be a sl baby and the great do sometimes fall.
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| Quote ="vastman"The only reason there is any interest in the club is down to Newmarket, which may end up being Teds great legacy not that he will get any credit. '"
Is it really Ted's legacy? A man who wrote that Belle Vue was not fit for top level sport in 1993 and it takes nearly 20 years for his 'legacy' to get anywhere near complete? Piggy backing on any scheme to get a stadium for free/on the cheap maybe.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Is it really Ted's legacy? A man who wrote that Belle Vue was not fit for top level sport in 1993 and it takes nearly 20 years for his 'legacy' to get anywhere near complete? Piggy backing on any scheme to get a stadium for free/on the cheap maybe.'"
Yes - because someone had to do it.
Short memories here - before 2004 and SWAG there was absolutely no appetite at all for any new stadium in Wakefield. We now have a local authority who are actively involved in trying to deliver this for us as part of a team that included Ted.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Is it really Ted's legacy? A man who wrote that Belle Vue was not fit for top level sport in 1993 and it takes nearly 20 years for his 'legacy' to get anywhere near complete? Piggy backing on any scheme to get a stadium for free/on the cheap maybe.'"
Sometimes you have to separate emotion from fact.
Doesn't matter what you think of Ted or his motives Newmarket is his baby, I can tell you that as fact from my SWAG connection.
In the dark days after the Thornes collapse and Council betrayal (why are people not frothing at the mouth on that one which was a far bigger betrayal than anything Ted has managed) he got off his backside and literally rang up any developer with a piece of land, he struck lucky. At the time he was the only one with the nouse to do it, and without that no one would be the least bit interested in the club now. No one at SWAG will take credit for Newmarket, we were still licking our wounds when Ted pulled out that particular rabbit!
Today would be the first day in a 100+ years Trinity did not exist but for Newmarket IMHO.
This is not an attempt by me to reform Ted reputation on here, clearly he has made mistakes and has clearly suffered a down turn in his own fortunes but that doesn't seem to matter a jot.
However let's for once let fact get in the way of a good vendetta. Whether by design or accident Newmarket is all that stands between us and oblivion.
Quite ironic that the man many blame for steering us towards the abyss may end up saving us by default - what pain what will cause some one here
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| Quote ="vastman"Sometimes you have to separate emotion from fact.
Doesn't matter what you think of Ted or his motives Newmarket is his baby, I can tell you that as fact from my SWAG connection.
[uIn the dark days after the Thornes collapse and Council betrayal [/u(why are people not frothing at the mouth on that one which was a far bigger betrayal than anything Ted has managed) he got off his backside and literally rang up any developer with a piece of land, he struck lucky. At the time he was the only one with the nouse to do it, and without that no one would be the least bit interested in the club now.'"
Talking of betrayals perhaps you would like to explain to the fans on here why we did not get the land on Denby Dale Rd after Yorks CC declined Wakefield council's offer to rehouse them from Headingley, or perhaps that was not Teds fault either.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Talking of betrayals perhaps you would like to explain to the fans on here why we did not get the land on Denby Dale Rd after Yorks CC declined Wakefield council's offer to rehouse them from Headingley, or perhaps that was not Teds fault either.'"
Perhaps you'd like to explain your theory to the the fans as I have no idea what you're talking about - thanks.
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| Quote ="vastman"Perhaps you'd like to explain your theory to the the fans as I have no idea what you're talking about - thanks.'"
I do not have a theory thanks, I am talking about when Ted was offered land on Denby Dale Road which he refused shall we say for personal reasons. I find it strange but not impossible that you and maybe TRB no nothing about it or choose for whatever reason to either deny or ignore it after the both of you gave Ted the big build up on his efforts to secure a new ground for us thanks.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"I do not have a theory thanks, I am talking about when Ted was offered land on Denby Dale Road which he refused shall we say for personal reasons. I find it strange but not impossible that you and maybe TRB no nothing about it or choose for whatever reason to either deny or ignore it after the both of you gave Ted the big build up on his efforts to secure a new ground for us thanks.'"
What are these personal reasons you talk of ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Perhaps you'd like to explain your theory to the the fans as I have no idea what you're talking about - thanks.'"
the ground was offered to be built and turned down flat. something to do with industrial units round it
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| Quote ="dickie mint"I do not have a theory thanks, I am talking about when Ted was offered land on Denby Dale Road which he refused shall we say for personal reasons. I find it strange but not impossible that you and maybe TRB no nothing about it or choose for whatever reason to either deny or ignore it after the both of you gave Ted the big build up on his efforts to secure a new ground for us thanks.'"
Can't talk for TRB but I know nothing about it because I tend to deal in facts. Until somebody proves that this event ever took place I'll ignore it. The Denby Dale thing was never going to happen it was a flight of fancy IMO. YCCC were never going to leave Headingley and that land was never available purely for the use of a RL club - it was always a non starter as far as I know.
I also know that Councillor box denied WMDC ever owned the land in question, whether they did I don't know. If it wasn't Council land then what chance a private developer offering us the land at a price we could afford? It was always a far more valuable site than Newmarket.
IMHO Ted never turned it down because he was never offered it on sensible terms in the first place.
As far as I'm concerned just another unsubstanciated myth - why you feel the need or what it achieves heaven knows
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the ground was offered to be built and turned down flat. something to do with industrial units round it'"
Prove it. Honest to god the level of pure fantasy on here would make Walt Disney blush.
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| the problem with your challenge to him vasty is that to some proof is about strength of feeling and to others it is about evidence. You are talking a different language to our friend who dished out the allegation.
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| Quote ="roader"It's about time the RFL started to support teams in the heartland of rugby league instead of bending over backwards to expand to places with little or no interest.'"
A fan I was talking to recently summed this up perfectly for me... 'Fantasy expansion'.
If you look up fantasy in the dictionary you'll more than likely get 'An unrealistic or improbable supposition'.
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| from memory, large tracts of land around Durkar were owned by the late William (Billy) Hale(Hales).
a bit of a character allegedy. Maybe his name will appear on land registry if some saddo feels the need to continue having a poke for no purposeful reason and wants to waste some time.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sometimes you have to separate emotion from fact.
Doesn't matter what you think of Ted or his motives Newmarket is his baby, I can tell you that as fact from my SWAG connection.
In the dark days after the Thornes collapse and Council betrayal (why are people not frothing at the mouth on that one which was a far bigger betrayal than anything Ted has managed) he got off his backside and literally rang up any developer with a piece of land, he struck lucky. At the time he was the only one with the nouse to do it, and without that no one would be the least bit interested in the club now. No one at SWAG will take credit for Newmarket, we were still licking our wounds when Ted pulled out that particular rabbit!
Today would be the first day in a 100+ years Trinity did not exist but for Newmarket IMHO.
This is not an attempt by me to reform Ted reputation on here, clearly he has made mistakes and has clearly suffered a down turn in his own fortunes but that doesn't seem to matter a jot.
However let's for once let fact get in the way of a good vendetta. Whether by design or accident Newmarket is all that stands between us and oblivion.
Quite ironic that the man many blame for steering us towards the abyss may end up saving us by default - what pain what will cause some one here'"
please explain what the council did wrong.
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