Although this could be offset with better attendances (hopefully) and not having to maintain a 130 year old stadium.

We're talking about a community trust set up by people with Wakefield Trinity at heart, not the local council. That's the difference buddy, do you really think a group set up to secure the future of our club would rob it blind?
The players, sponsors and fans will flock when we get this built. FACT.

You'll be more than welcome to come and experience it too matey!

That's the bit I'm not convinced about; despite the supposed draw of a new facility, I still think it's going to take a titanic effort on the part of the club to market the new experience sufficiently to attract new fans in large numbers.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but I think it's a mistake to be complacent in thinking that the stadium will do all the work; some slick, cohesive and professional marketing and PR work will be required.

As you say that's is the tricky part.

We have to market ourselves a lot better- every game needs to be a "diversity game"- if you get my drift.
TBH the one thing I'm most disappointed about is the fact we never pushed on consistently after the success of the diversity game.

However said that; the new facilities will help no end. But I think the increase in our "saleability" to a new owner will be the real key. I have no doubt that WTW in a new stadium, free from debt (if we use the remaining money from the sale of BV) would be a very attractive offer to a lot of ambitious businessmen. We need a sugar daddy and the stadium presents the perfect playground for such a type- even if they wouldn't own it.

Back atcha

It has to be backed up by success on the field, or at least the impression that we're moving forward with good players towards being a successful side. If we turn out for the season with a bunch of journeymen pros and the same "survival" mentality we've embraced for the last decade or so, any interest we manage to kindle will quickly disappear again, to the chorus of "same old Wakey".

The stadium would give us a fresh start and a new chance. We need to abandon the old mentality at the same time.

And with more money in their pocket they may start watching Trinity (short walk and all) so it's win win.

For me that means leaving the Richardson family behind. Ted should be thanked but like you said this is the rebirth of the club, it needs a steward to fit the time.

If and when we move I would hope for at least a period of stability just to get over the many hurdles we are bound to face. Ted may not be the guy to take us foreward but I would hope the club think long and hard before handing over to a new "owner" before or during the move.

I totally agree; the whole culture of the club needs a radical change and I don't think Ted and Co are the right people to do that. We desperately need a wealthy backer who can bring not just money, but a significant amount of business, marketing & PR expertise - bit of a Dragon's Den scenario. The current set-up is simply too amateurish and corner-shop like to deliver what's required; sad but true.

The Dragons Den crew wouldn’t touch us with a barge pole, they want to make money!

All the Sugar Daddy’s are in it because they are fans of their club, it costs them a small fortune.

We would need someone who wouldn’t miss a couple of million quid a year, and avidly supports Wakefield - He / She doesn’t exist.

I thought you might know a few high rollers in Filey with a few quid to spare

What ever you think about Ted and Co they are working to get us up to Newmarket. If they can do that they will have probably done as much if not more than anyone who has run our club for the past 130 + years. Ted and Co are also knocking on a bit and in fairness to them I don't think they want to hang on forever.Let them just to get us into Newmarket then make sure they hand over the club to someone else who is capable to take us forward from there.

I have it on good authority that every SL club makes a loss, so I'm not under any illusion that a wealthy benefactor who's prepared to operate the club as a vanity project is a tough ask. Maybe the stadium could solve that one too - we might be a more attractive prospect when we're bedded in at NM?

The community trust and Trinity will have a business plan just like anyone who will be using the stadium. It is for the use by anyone in the City and district and will have to be affordable for the tennents to use it

Translate all this and you come up with the Wakey business plan.... ie get it for nowt again

The opportunity is there for yourselves to take advantage, it's in a nice neutral location equal distance between Cas and Wakey central! Of course sharing at Glasshoughton was been as a compromise to Cas

Theres alot more to being nuetral location than distances invloved.

Anyway i'm confident we are getting our own ground and i hope you get yours.

How is it neutral????????,
Its in wakey for gods sake

We will get glasshoughton and you will scrounge a ground for nowt again, and good luck to both clubs

neutral my

And where's your money coming from? To build a stadium you need many millions - and it has to come from somewhere.

You have chosen to build a stadium, then latterly decided to add 'Community' into the title in the hope that it makes it acceptable for outside input - principally from WMDC (although by way of the secured land loan). Without it being 'Community' you wouldn't get that money, hence the change it tac.

Ours has been 'Community' from it's concept. It was never the intention to have the club own it, and I doubt Sir Rodney and co would have touched it with a barge pole if it was. We were tasked with forming a 'Community Trust' as the 'Special Purpose Vehicle' into which public funds can be placed for the public benefit. Somewhere down the line you will find that Cas have set / will set one of these up as well.

Our funding package is well known in general - i.e. the loan from WMDC / the planning gain from Yorkcourt and then the associated funding bodies. Obviously, as a 'Community' facility, if other parties are interested in taking up residence in the facility then we will a) have to amend plans to incorporate them and b) be able to attract further funding. This is a long way from getting something for nowt - it is merely OUR WAY of putting the funding package together.

Cas clearly seem to think that they have THEIR WAY of funding, but their own contribution will be quite small in relation to the overall cost - so perhaps we should claim that it is you that is getting it for 'next to nowt'?



Good luck!

Half way between both teams supporter base is as neutral as you can get. We are prepared to move 4 miles away from the City Centre but Cas it seems are not prepared to do the same (just yet). Would you like to define to me what you call neutral then?

If the mythical funding package for Glasshoughton never appears I wouldn't be surprised if Dickie Wright tries to sell Newmarket to you using the same arguments as myself

I bet he says ponte

And going around in the circles continues. TRB, you know full well where the money is coming from and so does everybody else. RW listed them on Look North in the recent interview, however, I notice you negated that to continue your argument that we have no money.

As for our contribution, approximately half, if not more from the sale of Wheldon Rd? I'd say that's more than a small contribution.