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| Quote ="snowie"was one expected ?'"
During the past week or so. Box has mentioned on radio Leeds, positive talks with MC, and good news just around the corner, then we’ve just had a photograph on a Twitter page of Ian Bramley, Johnathan Stone, with the Wakefield MP Mary Creagh, saying good news on the way. It’s therefore reasonable for people to expect some news, hopefully good news.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I would say if a bookie was laying bets on funding re development the odds would look something like this.
No one will fund it 1/100 fav
yorkcourt 100/1
WMDC 1000/1
The club 1000000000/1
My bet would be if I could lay one.
The club to get back the ground by way of a loan guarantee from the council plus a little bit of financial input as well.
Once the pig in a poke that is Belle Vue is in the hands of the club all goodwill disappears and we are left with a massive headache of how to make the place acceptable.
I know this is highly pessimistic and I would love to be wrong. But history should tell us the eventual outcome of any deal that relies on Box and yorkcourt'"
I’d say your likely not to be a million miles off.
All we’ve got to do then is get Yorkcourt to pay up and we are sorted....
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"During the past week or so. Box has mentioned on radio Leeds, positive talks with MC, and good news just around the corner, then we’ve just had a photograph on a Twitter page of Ian Bramley, Johnathan Stone, with the Wakefield MP Mary Creagh, saying good news on the way. It’s therefore reasonable for people to expect some news, hopefully good news.'"
I dont think he mentioned mc! I think he said the club/chairman, MC is no longer the chairman of the club, we have a different face conduction get the communication with WMDC
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| Yorkcourt plays another blinder, they will get the planning approved for the brewery building, they will get planning for houses, they will generate millions for themselves. The planning committee is made up of a load of half witted Councillors put in place by Box who love the money they claim and are frightened to go against anything that Box says for fear of having their noses removed from the trough, they are mostly from the East of the district, dont give a toss about the City or Trinity and will not even know where Newmarket is, They will do as Box tells them to do. Once passed Yorkcourt in all its various guises ( look them up on companies house, check out directors, resignations, new companies, associate companies etc etc ) will make some vague promises, nothing in writing, about funding a rebuild of BV and them trouser the lot, they wont even contribute to a lick of paint.
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| Just received an email from the council saying the planning meeting will be held on 21st Feb, I guess this was sent automatically to everyone who submitted objections. Check your junk folder if you haven't seen it, it was flagged as spam for me. It says only one representative for the objectors can speak for 3 minutes....however in 'special cases' the number of people who can speak and for how long can be varied. Let's hope they class this as a 'special case', we need more than 3 minutes to cover this sham.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"During the past week or so. Box has mentioned on radio Leeds, positive talks with MC, and good news just around the corner, then we’ve just had a photograph on a Twitter page of Ian Bramley, Johnathan Stone, with the Wakefield MP Mary Creagh, saying good news on the way. It’s therefore reasonable for people to expect some news, hopefully good news.'" if I was either Ian or Jonathan I would of declined the photo shoot and said publicly I'll wait until the stadium is built to have a photo with you Mary
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| Quote ="Jizzer"Just received an email from the council saying the planning meeting will be held on 21st Feb, I guess this was sent automatically to everyone who submitted objections. Check your junk folder if you haven't seen it, it was flagged as spam for me. It says only one representative for the objectors can speak for 3 minutes....however in 'special cases' the number of people who can speak and for how long can be varied. Let's hope they class this as a 'special case', we need more than 3 minutes to cover this sham.'"
I've also received an email regarding the meeting on 21 February, came direct to my inbox.
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Quote ="Jizzer"Just received an email from the council saying the planning meeting will be held on 21st Feb, I guess this was sent automatically to everyone who submitted objections. Check your junk folder if you haven't seen it, it was flagged as spam for me. It says only one representative for the objectors can speak for 3 minutes....however in 'special cases' the number of people who can speak and for how long can be varied. Let's hope they class this as a 'special case', we need more than 3 minutes to cover this sham.'" was in my junk mail as well
for those who wants to read what it says
CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION AT PLANNING AND HIGHWAYS COMMITTEE
PROPOSAL: Remediation and remodelling of land to form a development platform, with
associated pond and landscaping, and the erection of a warehouse unit (Bicon_cool.gif, with
associated access, service yard, parking and drainage
LOCATION: Plot 7A Newmarket Lane Stanley Wakefield WF3 4BU
I am writing to advise you that the above application will be considered at the meeting of the Planning
and Highways Committee on 21 February 2019 commencing at 11:30am in the Council
Chamber, County Hall, Wakefield.
Members of the public and applicants (or their agents), are able to speak at Planning and Highways
Committee Meetings. Normally one person representing any objectors will be allowed to speak for
three minutes. The applicant, agent, or one person supporting the application, will also be able to
speak for three minutes. The time limits and number of individuals allowed to speak will be varied
only in exceptional circumstances, at the discretion of the Chair. Please note that, in the case of
petitions, the petition organiser (if known) or the first petition signatory will be notified by this
letter and not those people signing the petition.
Should you wish to speak at the meeting, please could you contact a member of our Support
Team on 01924 306606. To assist with the administration process, you must contact us no later
than 12 noon on the day before the meeting.
If you do not register or contact us prior to this deadline, then you may not be allowed to
speak – the Chair has discretion in this matter where there are special circumstances.
If you are to speak, please note that a member of staff will be available at County Hall prior to the
start of the meeting, to assist you and register your presence.
Please also note that the Committee Member’s will adjourn for lunch at 1pm, with the meeting
reconvening at 2pm.
If you do not wish to speak, any written representation you have previously made will be
summarised in the Officer’s Report to the Planning and Highways Committee for their
consideration.
Our ref: 18/01169/FUL
You do not need to reply to this letter or submit any further written representations.
You can view the Agenda and Reports online at:
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/ieListMeetin ... tteeId=308
Yours faithfully
Michael Eaglestone
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for those who wants to read what it says
CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATION AT PLANNING AND HIGHWAYS COMMITTEE
PROPOSAL: Remediation and remodelling of land to form a development platform, with
associated pond and landscaping, and the erection of a warehouse unit (Bicon_cool.gif, with
associated access, service yard, parking and drainage
LOCATION: Plot 7A Newmarket Lane Stanley Wakefield WF3 4BU
I am writing to advise you that the above application will be considered at the meeting of the Planning
and Highways Committee on 21 February 2019 commencing at 11:30am in the Council
Chamber, County Hall, Wakefield.
Members of the public and applicants (or their agents), are able to speak at Planning and Highways
Committee Meetings. Normally one person representing any objectors will be allowed to speak for
three minutes. The applicant, agent, or one person supporting the application, will also be able to
speak for three minutes. The time limits and number of individuals allowed to speak will be varied
only in exceptional circumstances, at the discretion of the Chair. Please note that, in the case of
petitions, the petition organiser (if known) or the first petition signatory will be notified by this
letter and not those people signing the petition.
Should you wish to speak at the meeting, please could you contact a member of our Support
Team on 01924 306606. To assist with the administration process, you must contact us no later
than 12 noon on the day before the meeting.
If you do not register or contact us prior to this deadline, then you may not be allowed to
speak – the Chair has discretion in this matter where there are special circumstances.
If you are to speak, please note that a member of staff will be available at County Hall prior to the
start of the meeting, to assist you and register your presence.
Please also note that the Committee Member’s will adjourn for lunch at 1pm, with the meeting
reconvening at 2pm.
If you do not wish to speak, any written representation you have previously made will be
summarised in the Officer’s Report to the Planning and Highways Committee for their
consideration.
Our ref: 18/01169/FUL
You do not need to reply to this letter or submit any further written representations.
You can view the Agenda and Reports online at:
mg.wakefield.gov.uk/ieListMeetin ... tteeId=308
Yours faithfully
Michael Eaglestone
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| All one can hope is the apparent support we seem to be getting is dependent upon any objections and judicial review threats against this development from a Trinity point of view are retracted. We've fallen for that once.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"All one can hope is the apparent support we seem to be getting is dependent upon any objections and judicial review threats against this development from a Trinity point of view are retracted. We've fallen for that once.'"
Absolutely right, the trust and fans/citizens should be objecting to any planning application for Newmarket development, until they provide funding for the community Stadium. Remember the promise of artificial pitches training ground, community sports facilities etc. Recently, the speculation on this forum is the Council will provide funding as a loan which the trustees will pay the interest. The concern for me is, the loan will not be sufficient to do a complete new build or full redevelopment of. Belle Vue. If such funding was offered, then where would the rest of funding come from, a Piecemeal build would surely end in tears.
We all need to keep pressure on the Council planning process and the Newmarket site developers.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Absolutely right, the trust and fans/citizens should be objecting to any planning application for Newmarket development, until they provide funding for the community Stadium. Remember the promise of artificial pitches training ground, community sports facilities etc. Recently, the speculation on this forum is the Council will provide funding as a loan which the trustees will pay the interest. The concern for me is, the loan will not be sufficient to do a complete new build or full redevelopment of. Belle Vue. If such funding was offered, then where would the rest of funding come from, a Piecemeal build would surely end in tears.
We all need to keep pressure on the Council planning process and the Newmarket site developers.'"
Think it’s got to the stage that we’ve got to get what we can and make the best out of it.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Think it’s got to the stage that we’ve got to get what we can and make the best out of it. '"
That's exactly what they want - get desperate and take anything. It's alright having a 'modernized' Belle Vue but then having to go to Fev to train because we still haven't got our own facilities. We get less, Yorkcourt get more (land/money) - if we have to settle for a revamped Belle Vue I can live with that but I wouldn't have them wriggle out of the rest aswell.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Absolutely right, the trust and fans/citizens should be objecting to any planning application for Newmarket development, until they provide funding for the community Stadium. Remember the promise of artificial pitches training ground, community sports facilities etc. Recently, the speculation on this forum is the Council will provide funding as a loan which the trustees will pay the interest. The concern for me is, the loan will not be sufficient to do a complete new build or full redevelopment of. Belle Vue. If such funding was offered, then where would the rest of funding come from, a Piecemeal build would surely end in tears.
We all need to keep pressure on the Council planning process and the Newmarket site developers.'"
Unfortunately personal morals or views about the applicant are not valid reasons to object to a planning application. As distasteful as the applicant might be.
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| Quote ="snowie"how did we manage to get 2
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Good pubs and real ales.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"That's exactly what they want - get desperate and take anything.'"
Exactly this - seems like YC have played the long game, and it appears to have worked, with many people happy to take whatever scraps they deign to lob at us from their table.
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Quote ="wakeytrin"Are the trust wanting fans to attend next Thursdays meeting?'"
Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.
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Quote ="wakeytrin"Are the trust wanting fans to attend next Thursdays meeting?'"
Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.
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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.'"
We have requested that the following be permitted to speak :
Jonathan Stone - Chair, Wakefield & District Community Trust
Phil Townsend - SWAG
Mary Creagh MP
This is a Planning Meeting and the Chair will not permit an open debate on the whole Newmarket fiasco so we will focus our objection to the current planning application and why.
I believe it's a public meeting so anyone who wishes to attend is at liberty to do so.
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Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Good Morning
Please see attached Planning and Highways Committee guidance for speakers. Please ignore the time stated on the guidance note and refer instead to the letter (attached to email) you have previously been sent earlier this week, the time of the Committee will be 11:30 on Thursday 21st February 2019. If you are registered to speak at the committee you can ignore this email.
Kind Regards
James Long
Principal Planning Officer- Service Delivery
Development Management
Planning Services
Wakefield Council
Wakefield One
PO Box 700, Burton Street, Wakefield, WF1 2EB
Email: jlong@wakefield.gov.uk
Tel: 01924 306667
Website: www.wakefield.gov.uk
Contact Centre (24 Hr) 03458 506 506
Can a member of the trust confirm, that the trust will have a speaker attend this meeting, and the speaker will not allow themself or supporters to be fobbed off, as they were at the Ossett meeting last year, when supporters were advised not to raise points until after the meeting had finished. We need everything to be on record,this will only happen to questions/replies given during the official meeting.
Thank you.'"
We have requested that the following be permitted to speak :
Jonathan Stone - Chair, Wakefield & District Community Trust
Phil Townsend - SWAG
Mary Creagh MP
This is a Planning Meeting and the Chair will not permit an open debate on the whole Newmarket fiasco so we will focus our objection to the current planning application and why.
I believe it's a public meeting so anyone who wishes to attend is at liberty to do so.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"We have requested that the following be permitted to speak :
Jonathan Stone - Chair, Wakefield & District Community Trust
Phil Townsend - SWAG
Mary Creagh MP
This is a Planning Meeting and the Chair will not permit an open debate on the whole Newmarket fiasco so we will focus our objection to the current planning application and why.
I believe it's a public meeting so anyone who wishes to attend is at liberty to do so.'" good luck, I bet it will be recieved with deaf ears
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| Oh the irony!! I don't read the Wakefield Express these days, but I just happened to have a glance through it today. On page 24 There was a large headline =#FF0040=#FF0000"Nominate Your Community Hero", and who should be staring up at me from the page with a huge grin like a Cheshire cat but Mr Rodney Myerscough Walker ( I don't recognise knighthoods). I guess his community mindedness doesn't stretch to stadiums anymore.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Oh the irony!! I don't read the Wakefield Express these days, but I just happened to have a glance through it today. On page 24 There was a large headline =#FF0040=#FF0000"Nominate Your Community Hero", and who should be staring up at me from the page with a huge grin like a Cheshire cat but Mr Rodney Myerscough Walker ( I don't recognise knighthoods). I guess his community mindedness doesn't stretch to stadiums anymore.'"
Might surprise you but reactionary old right winger I may be I too detest the honours system. However tbf Rodney is the perfect Knight of the realm - a greedy, thuggish mercenary - so I’m actually quite happy to recognise him as a Sir as it’s not a sign of respect in my book.
Don’t get too giddy though as I love the job the Royal family do most especially her Majesty. Even you have to admit it’s not what they do it’s what they stop others doing. Imagine if Rodders or worse and there are plenty worse from both the left and the right would be like if they thought they could get the top job
Not that any of this helps us get what we deserve unless HRH is a secret Trin fan
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