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| Quote ="alegend"Miller is still giving 100% to the team ,the tackle on the Leeds winger when it looked as if he was in the clear proved that .Every game it's the same players that get the agro for there performance .,when week in week out players get away with poor performances and do not get a mention'"
Some players get dropped too .. but never it seems our untouchable captain who for reasons that baffle me seems to have reverential status at the club.
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| The Toulouse CEO has stated that their club is confident of staying in super league and that the recent signings will make a difference . It all sounds so upbeat whereas the only sound we have is silence
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| Quote ="PopTart"No. Just fact checking.
If you accused him of not being good enough with ball in hand, I might agree. If you accused him of missing tackles I would agree but point out he gets targeted more than most. If you accuse him of effectively cheating and not attempting tackles to allow the opposition to score....then I'll call you out on it as its clearly not true.
And you did start with "am I correct". I was just answering you.'"
You seem to be very selective with you fact checking, you missed out the fact he missed 7 of those 23 tackles.
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| Miller is just average 3 games out of 4. That’s not good enough and why he doesn’t play in Australia. For some reason he doesn’t get dropped, and he isn’t the only one who should be when due. Needs to go to Sheffield or prove everyone wrong when he gets his chance, which will be the next game (against the club that released him). The expense of average overseas players is massive compared to average UK based players. Am sure that’s what MC and CB are looking at.
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| Think that's an accurate assessment of Jacob miller.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"You seem to be very selective with you fact checking, you missed out the fact he missed 7 of those 23 tackles.'"
It wasn't seven of 23. It was 7 of 30.
So he attempted 30.
Which again, does not imply he "chose not to make an effort to tackle" which is the point I'm contesting made by Manuel.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"Think that's an accurate assessment of Jacob miller.'"
And yet we play worse when he isn't there.
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| Well we haven't got an effective stand off to take his place.
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| Quote ="PopTart"And yet we play worse when he isn't there.'"
That's your opinion.
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| Quote ="Brightside"That's your opinion.'"
And mine ! Sounds like you won’t have long to put up with him ! Who do you think will replace him ?? Who will be available for us to offer a contract to ??
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| Quote ="cocker"And mine ! Sounds like you won’t have long to put up with him ! Who do you think will replace him ?? Who will be available for us to offer a contract to ??'"
Depends what division we’re in
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Depends what division we’re in'"
Just suppose we survive … who do you think we could sign ?
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| Quote ="cocker"Just suppose we survive … who do you think we could sign ?'"
Seeing as though Miller takes up a quota space the NRL or NSW cup leagues would be an option. Nobody specific springs to mind out there but there’s plenty of talent out there as decent half backs over here are a rare commodity.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Seeing as though Miller takes up a quota space the NRL or NSW cup leagues would be an option. Nobody specific springs to mind out there but there’s plenty of talent out there as decent half backs over here are a rare commodity.'"
Interesting times ahead !! We just have to survive first and foremost .
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| Quote ="cocker"Interesting times ahead !! We just have to survive first and foremost .'"
100%. Whether we go up or stay down I will, like most fans on here, be supporting the club and be there most week, work dependant. If we stay up I doubt we’ll be looking at signing Cam Munster at 6, it’ll be a player struggling to get first grade, like Lino, like Croft we Salford or Cust at Wigan. Let’s face it they’re decent SL standard players.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Seeing as though Miller takes up a quota space the NRL or NSW cup leagues would be an option. Nobody specific springs to mind out there but there’s plenty of talent out there as decent half backs over here are a rare commodity.'"
I would agree that that would be the way.
Ratchford is on the 'available' list though along with Gale, Austin and Cogger as known quantities.
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| Quote ="Brightside"I would agree that that would be the way.
Ratchford is on the 'available' list though along with Gale, Austin and Cogger as known quantities.'"
I suppose every signing has it’s unknown quantities about the. Gale and Austin are shadows of their respective selves and ageing so personally I’d not be happy if we signed either. I rate Ratchford, again he’s ageing. Not seen much of Cogger, only he dropped a goal against Toulouse last week.MC and Poching will get Multiple players names sent to them by agents on the daily, we got offered Corey Norman months ago. We simply just need to start winning, to not only restore the fans confidence, but our potential future players confidence in actually signing for us.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"Well we haven't got an effective stand off to take his place.'"
If it's true that he's signed for Cas next season then we should just play Brad Walker there for the rest of the season IMO. The lad has done really well in every game he has played (which hasn't been nearly enough in my eyes).
Club captain or not, if he's not here next year and not doing it this year then drop him and play someone who might be with us and looks to have a decent game in him.
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| Quote ="Fordy"If it's true that he's signed for Cas next season then we should just play Brad Walker there for the rest of the season IMO. The lad has done really well in every game he has played (which hasn't been nearly enough in my eyes).
Club captain or not, if he's not here next year and not doing it this year then drop him and play someone who might be with us and looks to have a decent game in him.'"
We have to win some games though and dropping players for less effective isn't an option . Walker is too slow to play half back or hooker imo
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I suppose every signing has it’s unknown quantities about the. Gale and Austin are shadows of their respective selves and ageing so personally I’d not be happy if we signed either. I rate Ratchford, again he’s ageing. Not seen much of Cogger, only he dropped a goal against Toulouse last week.MC and Poching will get Multiple players names sent to them by agents on the daily, we got offered Corey Norman months ago. We simply just need to start winning, to not only restore the fans confidence, but our potential future players confidence in actually signing for us.'"
I watched the game on Friday between the Giants and Toulouse, a dire game all round, except for Corey Norman he was a class act head and shoulder's above anything else that was on show that night. Once he had settled down into his game he was fantastic his kicking out of hand was exceptional, looks like Toulouse have got a good signing there.
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| Cogger is bang average, definitely not an improvement on Miller, and wouldn't stand out even in the championship
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| No matter what ,we will still get more agents touting their players in the coming months looking to secure a contract for their clients whether that’s looking for long term at wakefield or simply a foothold into super league is solely down to our performances going forwards for me . It’s the board and coaches job to sift through the flotsam and jetsam and bring hunger back into the club in the form of players either from overseas or domestic who can have a positive impact on the field and the dressing room . We have to at all cost change the culture and mindset at the club for us to be a more competitive force in super league. Player will come don’t worry and we may yet unearth a gem ,you’d be hard pressed to pick up players as poor as our last incomings ,with hall being the exception and the jury out on Butler
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| Quote ="Waterloo Winger"I watched the game on Friday between the Giants and Toulouse, a dire game all round, except for Corey Norman he was a class act head and shoulder's above anything else that was on show that night. Once he had settled down into his game he was fantastic his kicking out of hand was exceptional, looks like Toulouse have got a good signing there.'"
I think to play 200 + NRL games and play SOO you’ve got to be pretty decent. Like you said, he’ll be a good addition, which does us no favours!
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| Quote ="cocker"We have to win some games though and dropping players for less effective isn't an option . Walker is too slow to play half back or hooker imo'"
I'm struggling to come to terms with the concept of our attack being less effective than it is now.
I don't think we've ever given Walker a run of games in a settled position to show what he can do ..
He's one of the fall guys in the current setup.
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| Quote ="Brightside"I'm struggling to come to terms with the concept of our attack being less effective than it is now.
I don't think we've ever given Walker a run of games in a settled position to show what he can do ..
He's one of the fall guys in the current setup.'"
Have we ever seen Walker in his actual position of LF? Feel like he’s been used in every other position except his own
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