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| Quote ="jonh"Players are out of contract this is made aware to all clubs in the final year of their deals by both the RFL and the agents.
It’s not a big secret.
Lists are distributed to clubs regularly through the season too about who is available.
Simply fact is we cannot compete financially with most clubs if they want the player.
It’s nothing to do with identifying them, we sadly have to deal with the scraps we are thrown and try mould them into a team capable of competing or more realistically surviving in SL.'"
That is not a sustainable business plan for any company certainly not one in the entertainment business during a cost of living crisis. We don’t even help ourselves by marketing the game or trying to generate some positive news. We have probably one of the highest match day tickets and I dread to think what we charge for a pint compared to a pub away from the ground. If you look at the Wakefield Trinity app it contents mainly reflect the ladies team which is fine but the first team news should take precedence.
The bad news of course is that these appear to be the good times before we start to repay a loan which I guess will be part funded by a reduced wage bill.
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| Prop.
Can anyone show Rob Butler’s match stats and compare them with DF?
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| Quote ="jonh"Players are out of contract this is made aware to all clubs in the final year of their deals by both the RFL and the agents.
It’s not a big secret.
Lists are distributed to clubs regularly through the season too about who is available.
Simply fact is we cannot compete financially with most clubs if they want the player.
It’s nothing to do with identifying them, we sadly have to deal with the scraps we are thrown and try mould them into a team capable of competing or more realistically surviving in SL.'"
Thanks John, I know exactly how it works and while what you’ve said is correct it’s not the whole story of how players are identified or how clubs move on unwanted players.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"I don't like the idea of the championship but the club is struggling every year to maintain its super league status so are we a SL club or not.'"
Out of curiosity, when did Ken Davy take over at Huddersfield.
They were relegated in 2001, and came back much stronger.
I know he's ban rolled them, but I wouldn't say that happened too much in the early years of them returning to super league.
If one thing, it would be a good way to get rid of the dead wood, and re build, both potentially on and off the pitch.
The main problem, is, would we have the finances, to strengthen, when needed
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| What is it about us helping out Powell? We sign Butler so he can sign Amor and that chap from Wests.
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| Quote ="Willzay"What is it about us helping out Powell? We sign Butler so he can sign Amor and that chap from Wests.'"
And Kasiano and Dudson too. ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"That is not a sustainable business plan for any company certainly not one in the entertainment business during a cost of living crisis. We don’t even help ourselves by marketing the game or trying to generate some positive news. We have probably one of the highest match day tickets and I dread to think what we charge for a pint compared to a pub away from the ground. If you look at the Wakefield Trinity app it contents mainly reflect the ladies team which is fine but the first team news should take precedence.
The bad news of course is that these appear to be the good times before we start to repay a loan which I guess will be part funded by a reduced wage bill.'"
it's not fine by me that the ladies section now seems to dominate the Trinity website - I have nothing at all against ladies playing rugby, though I would never watch it, and the two should have separate sections IMO.
Regarding the loan repayment, we don't know the terms of the repayment - your guess may be wrong of course!
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Out of curiosity, when did Ken Davy take over at Huddersfield.
They were relegated in 2001, and came back much stronger.
I know he's ban rolled them, but I wouldn't say that happened too much in the early years of them returning to super league.
If one thing, it would be a good way to get rid of the dead wood, and re build, both potentially on and off the pitch.
The main problem, is, would we have the finances, to strengthen, when needed'"
It would be an enforced way of personnel change, I agree in some cases for the better.
Isn't there going to be the proposed SL 1 and SL2 starting soon anyway? I've been an advocate for a long time of bringing potential SL teams together to form another competitive league, which if marketed properly could be a crowd puller in itself. Hopefully we stay in SL1 but to be honest, as long as the club were competitive in 1 or 2 I would still support them, as I did through many dreary years back in the 80's!
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Out of curiosity, when did Ken Davy take over at Huddersfield.
They were relegated in 2001, and came back much stronger.
I know he's ban rolled them, but I wouldn't say that happened too much in the early years of them returning to super league.
If one thing, it would be a good way to get rid of the dead wood, and re build, both potentially on and off the pitch.
The main problem, is, would we have the finances, to strengthen, when needed'"
Didn't they also benefit financially from the proposed 'merger' with Sheffield - which never happened?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Prop.
Can anyone show Rob Butler’s match stats and compare them with DF?'"
Fifita:
Tackles: 22
Marker Tackles: 4
Missed Tackles: 0
Carries: 18
Metres: 165
Average Gain: 9
Offloads: 2
Butler:
Tackles: 21
Marker Tackles: 4
Missed Tackles: 0
Carries: 3
Metres: 18
Average Gain: 6
Offloads: 0
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| Only 3 carries? He’s putting himself about then.
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| Are we judging a player based on one appearance.
Seen some of our props in the past 2-3 go a full stint, without taking the ball up
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| You won’t get many offloads away if that’s the case. It’s the future not the past that relates to what we need now. We need impact.
Thanks Fordy. Any idea how many minutes both did?
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Are we judging a player based on one appearance.
Seen some of our props in the past 2-3 go a full stint, without taking the ball up'"
Well if you wanted to make a good first impression you’d do a bit more! Think another player hit the nail on the head with Butler, he seems to be another cheap signing.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Only 3 carries? He’s putting himself about then.'"
You seem to have omitted our completion rate we gave Leeds way too much ball. DF got a few drives in as an early receiver why not give a new signing a chance when we respect our possession. I don't recall him giving any possession away
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| Got to give Butler a chance!!!! The poor lad has only just turned 24 I believe, had is career massively halted due to covid as he went back down to champ with broncos for a year before signing for Warrington, and although all games and players where effected by Covid, SL essentially continued and the Champ was called off completely. He then went from a year of not playing to signing for Warrington and has only played handful of games for Warrington over the course of 18 months…. Let him settle in, have a few run outs and find his form…. hopefully soon we’ll see the Rob Butler that caused some chaos for oppositions when he was at Broncos and played well enough to get in the England knights squad! Those stats from the Leeds game may not be the best, but looks like he was defensively sound to me and as mentioned above about the completion rate - can’t make carries when the ball is consistently dropped and handed over….
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| If people are expecting Josh Papalii or Payne Haas to pull up in a taxi at Belle Vue anytime soon to get us out of the brown stuff I’m afraid your in for disappointment ,but moving forwards and listening to big Dave’s podcast there may be some wiggle room for his brother making it next season if we can steer the ship away from the edge of the abyss this season. . Not what most want to hear at present I know ,but I think that’s as good as it’s going to get short term on a big named signing and something to ponder away from the depressing reality of being a WT supporter .
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| According to twitter last night, big clearout coming.
If true or not, I don't know, and if it is, there were no names brandished about.
Worked well for us when Brian Smith did it
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"According to twitter last night, big clearout coming.
If true or not, I don't know, and if it is, there were no names brandished about.
Worked well for us when Brian Smith did it'"
On who's twitter?
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"According to twitter last night, big clearout coming.
If true or not, I don't know, and if it is, there were no names brandished about.
Worked well for us when Brian Smith did it'"
No point in having a clear out if we are still left with the past it players on too longer contracts .Think it will be the players who have carried the team for years .I mean the real S L players in the team
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| Quote ="Manuel"You won’t get many offloads away if that’s the case. It’s the future not the past that relates to what we need now. We need impact.
Thanks Fordy. Any idea how many minutes both did?'"
Sorry, pulled those stats from the Superleague website and minutes is one it doesn't give you
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"According to twitter last night, big clearout coming.
If true or not, I don't know, and if it is, there were no names brandished about.
Worked well for us when Brian Smith did it'"
Do not think W Poaching is in the B Smith catagory ,but in fairness to W Poaching he is going for younger players
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"According to twitter last night, big clearout coming.
If true or not, I don't know, and if it is, there were no names brandished about.
Worked well for us when Brian Smith did it'"
True but that was probably because
Smith was an incredibly experienced and respected 1st team coach, 30 year plus experience, dally m coach of year, multiple grand finals etc
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| Quote ="jonh"Looked like a real quality player a few years ago however he has fallen away badly.
Not sure where the 6’7” stat comes from but he is nowhere near that.
Listed at 6’2” on the official Hull site and I think that is optimistic.
The main issue with him he is another “middle” rather than a Prop.
We have a pack full of “middles” at the moment apart from Fifita and now Butler who are both out and out props.
He isn’t a signing that improves us in my opinion so I’d be steering clear personally.'"
See that he's turning out for the Hull reserves tonight at BV.
I got the stats off the ever reliable wiki btw.
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Are we judging a player based on one appearance.
Seen some of our props in the past 2-3 go a full stint, without taking the ball up'"
Why bother when you can have your best player driving the ball out from his own 10 over and over
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