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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"so after all the pressure and moaning about needing an organising 7 and may I add to that new coaching staff which everyone continuously went on about we now need a number 9. I’m sure if everyone keeps going on enough then carter and Chester will be convinced to get one. We didn’t need a 7 we needed two or three grafters all forwards IMO and one of them an hooker. We didn’t need two assistant coaches just an head coach who’s going to hold his hand up and say I’m the boss I take responsibility and then change and do something about it.
An hookers job in attack is to look around and scan the field for opportunities and to decide when to run and not to run, to give quality ball off the floor at pace and neither crowther or wood can do this. If you ask both if they would rather play hooker or not play of course they will say yes but if it’s unnatural and they haven’t got the tools to do it then there’s not a lot we can do, Chester was an intelligent player if he can’t see it then he needs to look harder.'"
Agree with all that mopsy
All I would say is I don’t think any of us thought we’d start the season with woody out injured (who is still an excellent hooker and does all of what you list above very well)
Out of interest do you think it is a position that would suite Rocky?
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| Quote ="musson"Agree with all that mopsy
All I would say is I don’t think any of us though we’d start the season with woody out injured (who is still an excellent hooker and does all of what you list above very well)
Out of interest do you think it is a position that would suite Rocky?'"
Not, if apparently, he aint fit
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| Typical response from a happy jack.
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| Quote ="phe13"Not, if apparently, he aint fit'"
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I go into every game expecting a loss these days. I am rarely surprised.
Something has to give, that 2nd half against Wigan was nothing short of pathetic.'" reminds me as a lad when every time we played St Thomas à Becket their year was Englands junior champions and every game we used to get mullered 40 plus points, it became difficult to get out of that mindset knowing that a game was coming up it would end up being the same, all other teams were on the same level but we managed to be on the upper hand, it came to a cup final and low and behold the opponents was again beckets, before the final we trained to different strategy as we had already excepted we wasn't going to win but we had changed to keeping the score below a certain level and to score against them which we never had before, in the end we achieved both, you would of thought we'd won the final at the end of the game
I don't expect this to be applied to Trinity but achieving with under rated players is possible and you shouldn't expect a loss I never do
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| Quote ="musson"Agree with all that mopsy
All I would say is I don’t think any of us thought we’d start the season with woody out injured (who is still an excellent hooker and does all of what you list above very well)
Out of interest do you think it is a position that would suite Rocky?'" rocky could probably play most positions but they need to get him fully fit he’s not been fit for over 12 months, his main asset is his pace and watching him the other night is clear he’s not moving and struggling, the thing is he as stuck his hand up when he probably shouldn’t. I coached Kyle wood as a kid he was a very talented half back and kicker and is probably better than Miller and lino still as he could run the game. You can feel a bit for crowther and wood but some make a fist of moving positions and some find it hard to adapt, they try their best but it’s alien to them, they both can tackle well but it’s the distribution side
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| Quote ="happyjack"Perhaps instead of your constant whining, maybe you could put forward a few ideas yourself, you and mopsy seem to know all the answers, over a hundred years between you watching the not so mighty Trin, I'm sure you can come up with a better solution than those presently running and coaching the club.'" remind me which coaches won something at Wakefield in the past 20 yr
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| Mosley good defernision of what a hooker should do You could ad backing up a break to score ,or make ground or been able to take control if your 6 and 7 get injured ,and taking pressure of your 6 and 7
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| Quote ="alegend"Mosley good defernision of what a hooker should do You could ad backing up a break to score ,or make ground or been able to take control if your 6 and 7 get injured ,and taking pressure of your 6 and 7'"
The way the game is played very robotically these days a good nine will have the responsibility of getting the team round the field, the lad at Hull is a good example Danny houghton, came through the juniors as a 6 and developed as a nine and can also kick a ball. He does the job he’s put there to do
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"The way the game is played very robotically these days a good nine will have the responsibility of getting the team round the field, the lad at Hull is a good example Danny houghton, came through the juniors as a 6 and developed as a nine and can also kick a ball. He does the job he’s put there to do'"
He's like James Roby he seems to have been around forever.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Typical response from a happy jack.'"
Maybe instead of being so critical you could offer a solution having watched Wakey for the past eighty years, if Chester's as clueless as you say he might be desperate for your input, personally though I doubt he'd be that desperate as to listen to you and the other armchair internationals that criticise on here.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Maybe instead of being so critical you could offer a solution having watched Wakey for the past eighty years, if Chester's as clueless as you say he might be desperate for your input, personally though I doubt he'd be that desperate as to listen to you and the other armchair internationals that criticise on here.'" let’s all agree and say jolly good show he’s doing a cracking job.
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| Slappy jack
I have never said Chesters clueless and if you took the time to actually read my comment s you would not waste your efforts on responding.
If your trying to be controversial get your facts right first.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"but why do we lack ambition to build a side, cas have a decent coach who identifies what he needs and gets it, Salford have done it, Huddersfield, Catalan and I’m not saying it lasts with these clubs but we just seem to float by year after year. The recruitment at our club is terrible brough, gigot , tangata, green to name a few, then he bows down and listens to the fans when they say we need an organising 7, well who’s watched him cause he don’t look like one to me, he looks short of pace for one. A 7 needs a pack to make ground something we didn’t do in 90 percent of our games last year.'"
Is Lino fully fit ???
Didn't Chester say after the Dewsbury game that he had picked up a knock to the ribs, then a few days later that strangely changed to an ankle injury. Was that because Chester knew he wouldn't be fully recovered for the Leeds/Wigan games so was trying to protect him ??
Having suffered a broken rib on two occasions, I know from experience that it takes around 3 weeks to fully recover, so maybe Lino is playing through the pain barrier and will start taking the line on more in the next couple of weeks ??
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| Quote ="1315trinity"He's like James Roby he seems to have been around forever.
Wish we'd got either at Wakefield!'"
You had Paul McShane but wouldn't let him play the way he wanted to Seriously in my opinion a good hooker at acting half should be able to throw a good long accurate pass directly from the floor without having to straighten up and take a couple of steps first thus wasting a vital second in which the opposition are up on the receiver. Sadly in the modern game there aren't many such number nines although Miller seems pretty good with his distribution when he goes to dummy half.
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| Catalans yesterday had Sam Tompkins at many of the play the balls.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"What is Scott Moore doing these days?'"
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| I regret that unlike in football when the board say they have full confidence in Chester they mean it. I believe they have decided that the club will survive or fail with Chester in charge. I would have hoped that Chester himself would think that he is just not working and that he would not wish to see his hometown club slowly sinking into oblivion. The fact he is still here despite a 19% win record suggests he is either blind to the team’s performances or actually thinks it is not his fault but theirs.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Banged up?'"
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"let’s all agree and say jolly good show he’s doing a cracking job.'"
Never read anything anywhere about your coaching credentials who have you coached then?, maybe having a lad what plays for the club elevates you to the status where you think you know more than an ordinary supporter.
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| I think if your being kind to the coaching team - Hampshire’s not fit , linos carrying an injury jowitt , (allegedly) battye wood are actually out due to soft tissue injuries - so with exception of miller and westerman all our pivot players are struggling - personally think that’s a bit of a giraffe - we are only two weeks in after longest close season I can remember. Yet we just look exactly like the team that finished last season . Same issues of poor numbering up in defence , fading in second half etc etc tbh looks another long season ahead
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"No he came out and was at some lower league club I think???'"
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| Quote ="happyjack"Never read anything anywhere about your coaching credentials who have you coached then?, maybe having a lad what plays for the club elevates you to the status where you think you know more than an ordinary supporter.'"
Tbh I have very similar coaching credentials to Chester , least ways I have badges and haven’t won anything either lol
Ultimately it’s about trying to find the form we enjoyed when he first came 5th looks a mountain that we don’t look likely to climb any time soon.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"He did go to Rochdale but think he's moved on from them.'"
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