I think I've read all this thread but don't recall seeing any response from the trust!
Are they happy with the present agreement?
Only when they are will I be!

OK I get your point and I do actually sympathise but you can't just ignore the wider issue here.

As I say I don't blame the club, they do what is best for the club.

However there is a wider issue here that simply can't be ignored. If we get this stadium this way it cannot be denied that we got it on the fiddle. Not us directly but we as WMDC ratepayers are complcit in defrauding other ratepayers however well meaning we may be.

If it's this or nothing we should take it - however we must carry on persuing the Council to fullfill it's obligation. Something that will unfortunately be much harder if the stadium element is removed.

Sorry but from someone involved from the start it will be a slightly hollow victory even though I accept it is a victory. Knowing the Trust members as I do it won't sit well with some of them though to alay your fears I'm sure they will be pragmatic about this.

There isn't one but you have to remember that the Clubs agenda and the Trusts agenda are not identical.

The club supports the idea of NM first as far as I'm aware especially the community element. However they are first and foremost a bussiness and as such will put the club first.

The Trust has a much wider agenda and has to take far more into account - so you may be waiting a while for a response I suspect.

Yeah, of course - me being blinkered as well!

Oh so you and the rest of Northeast built stadiums from SKY money, I bet that is news to nearly every one of them.



As for Salford don't you mean the Council poured millions into a Stadium for you? Even then after that in 2013, you needed an emergency fund from the Council and Peel group to the tune of £1.2m, then a year later another £400k was lent towards the stadium.

Long story short when you've actually built something yourselves out of your own back pockets, like Saints for example, not got the Council to practically fund the whole deal, or attach yourselves onto a S106 , then you can give it the big one like you are.

Agree and if the redevelopment does go ahead, it sort of proves to me that they've allowed Yorkcourt get away with murder. If no extra Community facilities eventually happen, similar to what Yorkcourt have just put into the planning office for Newmarket. It's a pity there isn't a newspaper that could do a full expose on the deal and how much extra money they've made from doing this move.
Also even with a redeveloped Belle Vue, I bet we'll still be off up Featherstone do our training as well.

What's your point, I try hard to get most but that's gone straight over my head.

I suppose the easiest way to look at it is that there are two separate issues here.

Trinity's Stadium issue is solved IF and it's a huge IF it happens.

The wider issue and in many ways the more important one is far from solved and that is the 106 agreement and it's flagrant disregard.

It's fine getting what we wanted but we owe it as fans and ratepayers to get the rest of it - it's what the ratepayer deserves and frankly it's the right thing to do.

If we don't that vile man and his co-conspirators win again.

Aren't we all sick of that, I know I am.

My point is that I was looking at things purely from me being a supporter of the club - I was actually accepting what you said! I think your in battle mode Vasty!

You got that absolutely spot on and when the development finishes at NM their mark up will be about 60million . Not bad when someone else has done all the ground work for nothing.

No I'm not I just didn't get it

but I'm trying quite hard to do so at the moment.

What other option did the did the club have, that ensured we had a SL standard stadium in our great City? We could/have waited years for what was promised ended up with nothing and the club playing out of Wakefield in a lower league. It's not perfect but I'm happier than I was a few weeks ago.

Up the Trin

Got to agree with vasty on this one, prime green belt has been released.
The council and developers were all up for a Community Stadium, because Wakefield have a track record of stumbling from one crisis to another.
When it looked like we would drop out of SL, until Crusaders folded, I bet the council and developers were rubbing their hands together but we limped along, with not much happening with NM, then when we had to sell our players to balance the books, the Council and developers had another chance to feel optimistic about developing the land.
The simple crux of the matter, is that, if Wakefield were not in SL, the land at NM would be bursting at the seams with development at this time.

What I wonder is, if yorkcourt applied for full planning for the rest of the units at Newmarket development which triggers the 12m stadium where's that money going if we stay at belle vue?

You are not happy because an agreement is in place to redevelop Belle Vue which will be for the use of WT. I presume funding is in place and we know the owner of BV is in agreement and yet you are also not happy that the council are not providing WT with a community stadium.
I also note that some of you are now concerned with the ratepayers of Wakefield which is new. I bet if I was a slightly bit interested in your historical posts I will find some criticising the council for not supporting the club to redevelop BV like Halton did for Widnes.
I am accused of having a personal vendetta but I would suggest some of you take a look in the mirror because it appears you would prefer to see the club’s demise away from Wakefield just to come on here to say I told you so.
For example how many times have I read “just look what I said about Glover I know when someone is spouting rubbish, I presume because you are experienced in that particular field.
With regards SWAG was this not initially set up by Ted to be his mouthpiece he could control where the supporters club he could not.

Oh goody the Council lackey's turned up.

I've mentioned the bigger picture of the extra facilities that we wouldn't get numerous times, before the Belle Vue development came on the table and when it fell through and so have others so quit the bull. Go back and look at my posts to you to check if you want.

Ah the Captain Vastman and his gang’s lackey turns up.

Vasty hits nail on head. The ratepayers and citizens of wakefield have been royally screwed over. It doesn’t sit well with the shareholders of the club, and the trust, and we continue to fight, in some way shape or form, for what was promised at NM, however that might finally be packaged!

You must be chuffed that your boss is going to make a fair few bob on NM.

Disgusting how developers keep milking the money out of us really but aslong as the council get a cut which I'm sure they will it won't matter

Apologies there Vasty and Daddycool, for not seeing it right there.

I wasn't aware that you were on the SWAG team

Think I will get that humble pie out if the fridge

Looking at the plans of the new Belle Vue I might treat myself and the kids to west stand season tickets and sit down. But it will be a good atmosphere in the new North Stand so I don't know, maybe northwest corner, decisions decisions.

Up the Trin