I bet these are the same Bradford fans that peed themselves laughing when they first watched East is East when they used the same words.
People only use the racist card when it suits.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Wonder what the reaction of the Bradford fans would have been had the chant been "Your just a town full of Asians"? Is that racist or factual? Will "Asian" be the next word to need asterixing out. Was it the word used or the facts hitting a sore point?
No doubt in a few years time the word Migrant will be the great forbidden word. Lets check the Tom and Jerry cartoons and Noddy books quickly!

The match commissioner included it in his report, which is how the RFL got involved.

I agree it was small minority, but if we're talking 5 or so, then they should have been ejected by the stewards once everyone else around reported them. Then problem solved, no need for "self-flagellating pubic apology, a flurry of faux internet outrage, or a wide-ranging RFL investigation" as you say. But they didn't. Which allowed the problem to develop further, which is why there's now going to be investigations into all aspects of stewarding, policing, segregation, stadium security etc.

If you actually apply the policies you have in place when the problem is small, it doesn't get to be a bigger problem, generally.

How do we know that it was reported to the stewards , or that the stewards heard what was going on. It would appear that the vast majority of supporters had no idea what was going on.
Lets wait for the findings from the R F L

In a few years being called English will be racist

Being proud to be English already is!

Wow!

Wow indeed!
I find it totally astonishing that anyone can play down the seriousness of racist chanting. I didn't hear it and I don't know if it happened or not but if it did/does happen - 4 or 5 or the whole North Stand, it doesn't matter - it must be condemned and appropriate action taken. If it is just a few I'd like to think that the decent fans around them would deal with it and that would be the end of it.

I was sat in the East Stand and once someone mentioned on here about "We didn't start the fire" being sung it seemed to ring a bell with me. I guess I must remember hearing it on Saturday even though I was so far away from the North Stand.

I didn't put 2 and 2 together on Saturday when I first heard it. Now I've mad the connection I agree it was highly insensitive and sick to sing such a thing.

If as stated here and on the Northstanders page on Facebook it is a small number of people. Maybe 2-4 guys who people readily recognise but can't name, then I think the issue can be resolved quickly at our next home game. If Bradford and other fans have turned in video to the club we should soon see an end to the matter.

I get the uproar for singing about the fire, as for the town full of asians/pakis song im sorry but come on, heard much worse at every ground without all this faux outrage.

It depends what you mean by much worse?

Racist chants are deplorable, much worse than assumptions of inter-breeding, jeez there are a number of posters on here who mock the Cas fans for the self-same thing.

Yes, the idiots singing theirs pathetic songs are to blame, but so are the stewards if they were aware of the situation & did nothing, & if they were, then the club are to blame, for employing them.

Correct.

Ah but if the said idiots had sneaked in an opened bottle of Coke they'd be straight out.

I've rarely read so much ignorant in one post, which is saying something given the morons that frequent these boards!

Hearing worse elsewhere, doesn't make it right.

There is no defence for it. It is completely wrong on all fronts and should not be tolerated in any way.

You cant protect your kids from everything. They are going to hear things you don't want them to hear, but i don't want to take them to a place where people are singing songs such as that and it is tolerated.

I don't know what's worse, the fact it happened or the reaction on here?

I'm not saying it's right it's just not that offensive and certainly doesn't deserve the uproar it seems to be causing.

Well after reading all the tripe that some people are putting say you shouldn't say this or you shouldn't say that. It must be only me that has spoken out of turn in my 50 years of life. When I was forced off the road by a Azad taxi driver many years ago who drove off and cost me a couple of hundred to fix the damage.It must be only me who commented bad things about the Dewsbury bombers who murdered a lot of innocent people also it must have only been me who asked why were the police trying to find the three sisters from Bradford that went to join ISIS with their kids it was their choice and then the husbands blamed the police for them doing it



I must be a bad man.

Oh I forgot to mention one of my good friends is a Pakistani and my sister-in-law is a Pakistani also.

I can't believe people have gone through life and not made some sort of racial or discriminant comment against an individual.

Nope. Only the idiots are to blame.

The stewards may have been able to stop it continuing but only the singers are to blame for the songs.

Yep just you. What's your point?

I can't believe, and am really disappointed, by how many "excuses" have been offered by by different posters on this thread.
I think the post by devils advocate - "racist chants are deplorable" is game, set and match for me and nothing more needs to be said. Yes; all clubs will have racists and I personally will support any club, my own included, in rooting them out and showing them as the ignorant buffoons that they are.

My point is people are quick to condemn but have probably been guilty of it themselves in the past by just making a snide comment at some stage.

Well said. No matter how many it was (oh and it was more than the 4 that people are trying to claim) and how long they lasted the chants were disgusting but the attempts to try and justify them on here are just unbelievable. I have to worry about the mentality of those people just as much as those who committed the acts. It is NOT acceptable, ever.

Do you think it could be about time that the United Nations issued a decree that ALL nations could be allowed to take the mick out of each other? This way we could possibly all, irrespective of race or creed, officially have a good laugh without having to look over our shoulders all the time. The world may then be a friendlier place.

That’s alright then, the club can go to Red Hall with their conscience clear.

“It’s not our fault guv, it was a number of idiots what did it”

“No worries then lads, society these days, what do you do, I blame the parents”

I suppose when racial prejudice and hate cease to exist than maybe they could look into that.