Results like that make me wonder why I care. I have seen the odd bad run and many a poor season but I fear that 2015 will be one to put all other seasons successful. That's it for me until I see a vast improvement. Night and turn the lights out.

At least Leeds can rest some players on Monday

They can play their second team and win comfortably.

How can some say it's not down to Webster cos we have injuries well we had our full back line playing tonight(maybe Lynne for arundal)and other than pea Anderson ashurst and godinet there is no one missing from our first team and don't forget godinet was dropped and played for fev a few weeks back.the team on that field tonight should not be out of the game by half time again.we play the game poorly I watch a under 10s team and they have more set moves than wakey we keep making same mistakes week in week out but he doesn't do anything at all.he said miller offers more than sammutt well miller is waste of space who not good enough for super league.today the difference was they wanted it and where motivated somthing Webster can't get us motivated for nothing

I don't mind losing but we are constantly out of games before half time and that is to me not acceptable Webster is no better than who he as worked under and I think that's 3 wins from 15 now

Webster got to go before it's too late for me and take clawson with him has he is our conditioner but looks unfit himself

It doesn't matter who you have in your back line, if your forwards are getting beaten.
Webster said earlier in the week that they couldn't do full training sessions, so to me that means he's struggling to get 17 players together who are somewhere like fit.

Chris Chester's assistant Willie Poching is getting a lot of credit for HKR's improvement. Do you think he may still have a soft spot for you and could he be persuaded to come and give it a shot.
Personally I think its the lack of depth thats costing you now that the injuries are piling up (and there are a lot). You did fine in the first 2 games but then the number of injuries just kept going up and up.

Thought we looked good for the opening 5 minutes, throwing the ball about and looking positive in attack and defence. As soon as Catalans scored it was back to chasing the game headless chicken style. I noted an upping in the defence at 0-18 but it was too late by then. Nothing we tried worked and it was getting to the point where our kicking game became an excuse for not having a clue what to do on the last tackle.

It wasn't great to see fans streaming out with 25 minutes to go but with 10 to go even we'd had enough.

If this was the game we'd hoped to get something out of, God help us on Friday.

But the players who are fit are not fit. For a SL side we are unfit

The statement about Poching just goes to show how the game can change.
After Rovers got beaten by us, some Rovers fans were baying for Poching's head as he was supposed to be their defensive coach.
Now all that has been forgotten, it's just a shame we have gone the other way.

Who's fit and who's carrying knocks?

Well if not fit don't play them play the 19s can't be any worse five players missing from cas game that's all Webster is a poor coach

Yes we won our first two games but only played well for twenty mins in each

They all look unfit compared to all other SL sides does this contribute to all the injuries we seem to pick up?

We have never looked fit while clawson been at the club

That was up there with as bad as i've seen from this club. No quality, no fight, no idea. The players on paper are better than we saw tonight but ultimately they are a bottom two side at best. We are missing a few guys maybe but that team out there is better that the garbage on show tonight. And yes we seem to be way off the pace. Fast losing the faith i'm afraid.

Webster has to accept some of the flak,its his squad that he assembled and coaches,ultimately the buck stops with him.
One thing is certain,something is fundamentally wrong when a team is getting turned over so easily on a regular basis.
Im afraid that from what ive seen so far this season,his methods are Agaresque,weak defensive structures,little attacking structures and mind boggling postional selections.
I have no doubt he will pull a rabbit out of the hat at some point,but i fear it will be more down to good luck than good coaching.
I take on board we have had some injuries that have stretched the squad to its limits,but to be conceding points with such alarming ease is simply not acceptable.

That side should not be conceding 7 plus tries every single game, injuries or not. The opposition don't even have to try hard to score, we're gifting them 2 or 3 a game. We can't hold on to the ball, we can't tackle, we can't create, the side has gone to pot. We looked half decent at the end of last season and at the start of this, what the hell has happened? Time to earn your corn Webster, it's not looking good and I'm a glass half full type of guy.

Are our many injuries to do with our seemingly lack of conditioning ?

I feel it is right to point out that while Webster must take some blame ( it is his squad after all ) that injuries are to the point where he doesn't even have his regular reserve and fringe first team players such as molloy and anakin. He is having to relay on the loan market and players of below a super league standard in order to complete his pack. And once a pack is beaten attack becomes nullified

Catalan fullback Stanislas Robin was released by Wakefield's reserve team a few years ago. Nice payback for him.

Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

Completely agree. Witnessed some dross over the years, but rarely have I left with 20 to go.
I'm not buying this injury line. That side was good enough, it was just lacking in ideas and enthusiasm. This is Rugby League, players play injured all the time!
It's been said we are missing forwards to lay the platform but I'm not having that either. I lost count of the number of sets we had in there 20 without doing jack! We couldn't force a repeat set. All in all p*** poor!

Mcshane and D Smith aside, the rest looked about as enthusiastic and happy to be there as me! Miller I don't get, Craig Hall needs to play centre or 6, T Smith needs to get back to organising them and Danny K needs to try and get back to somewhere near the form of 2 years ago, as for the last season and a bit he has been a shadow of the player he was.

Gutless performance and as has already been said I used to be hurt by these results, now its just
resignation. Sad really.

That said and I don't disagree with you, how do you suggest the club rectify's the problem?

They need to increase the number of supporters who attend a match, buy merchandise and generally can be relied upon to help to club sustain a SL side. How this is achieved with no money and a reluctance to spend on promoting the club I don't know.