Can't believe how many unforced errors today, a bad day all round.

Well done HKR.

Molloy had injury I believe a prediction when Annakin fit hes going on loan ask Dewsbury if they wanna swap coaches?

Is it going over board with the inept display provided by a changed team?....being beaten by nearly 50 points by a team that is tipped to struggle? It needs to be addressed. I feel sorry for the WTW fans that have had to travel the 100 miles round trip and pay an entrance fee for that drivel...they deserve a refund and for the players not to get paid. People cannot afford to pay for rubbish rugby we should be at least competitive every week and crowds won't grow with that type of performance.

We got found out today. Reality check time, we are still very much in a relegation dogfight. Thankfully Widnes hung on against Bradford, our best chance of survival is for them to keep losing. That 6 point deduction could well be the difference.

When people are acting like we're relegated because of it, yes.

What's going to be the excuse this week? They lost the game but to ship all those points tells me that WTW did not give a good account of themselves and that is something the coach should be looking at.

Today doesn't relegate us but it's a major reminder that we are right in the mix. We shouldn't be getting our backsides handed to us by a team who were below us in the table, team changes or not. I have to question the players attitudes today i'm afraid as it sounded like Hull KR wanted it a whole lot more than we did. That concerns me greatly.

Who's paying his 3 year contract out? Agar is not going anywhere. Agree that we should never have tinkered with a team starting to play well , but it's a blip. We need to forget it and move on. I won't be surprised if we now beat Leeds

I will

I kept losing the commentary on yorkshire radio and switched to radio humberside. Their commentators were saying that this was the first time this season that HKR's forwards have really played all the game on the front foot. They said that they always felt this was coming if they could get on the front foot. they did say the reece lynne try should have been allowed and that the ref was very selective with the offside decisions. They also congratulated sandercock for the tactics he used to nullify sammutt although how he did that i don't know. I expected it being close today after the saints performance.

We cant just blame Agars decision to drop Mathers today on this result. I am not is biggest fan, but he is the best we have by a long way, and there isn't that many decent full backs available at the moment. I do think some of his selections are a bit baffling at times.

A scoreline like that, is down to the team as a whole, and I think a reality check is in need. 7 games in, and the only teams we can beat is London and Catalans, who everyone else has also thrashed, the other teams, to be fair we have been second best.

I do think we are heading towards National League if this isnt sorted out, and am very conceered as to how many Cas will put past us, not only Leeds.

A major concern for me, is the fact we have only one half decent three quarter, and he spends most of his time on the sidelines. Oh hang on, are we getting another dead leg from the Rhinos. (Ship all the loanees back, as this is clouding team selection) and promote within, or look to the championship, as these may put in the effort.

I also agree with Washbrook, but no one else seems to be interested in going in for the tackle, whether its first, second or third.

Agar should send the team straight back out to do a training session, so the players can be the ones embarrassed, and not us supporters.

One last thing, they are too slow in the defensive line, but I bet are never slow when it comes to collecting their payslips.

Ha. Hope springs eternal

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Well based on today it turns out we are not very good at all.

Well I for one am glad that I didn't pay over £30 in fuel and £22 entrance fee as well as losing most of my Sunday to travel over and watch that rubbish. The WTW fans deserve better and only want to see a competitive match otherwise it'll feel as money wasted and they won't bother in future....sorry but that is reality when you are skint.

Tautai has hands of porcelain.

On another note - it seems it's open season on Wakey players this year; this week, we had one dumped on his head and one tackled around the face at speed - neither player was even spoken to.

Meanwhile, Harry Secombe chops at a players arm to get him off his shirt, and gets a stern talking to from Mr Bentham.

Do what you like to Wakey players it seems - the officials will not protect us from dangerous or foul play.

You looked a threat with the ball. Execution wasn't quite there a couple of times & Rovers scrambled well. On another day you could've scored 4 or 5.
Your pack got monstered though. Some long days ahead if you can't stand up better than that.
What's happened to Kirmond? Doesn't seem the same player as last season.

I saw the spear and Bentham put it on report. Mr Burns wont be playing for a couple of weeks.

At the fans forum on Wednesday the players were saying how they were looking up and not down and how they felt that the top 8 was their target. There is part of the problem - they haven't yet figured out that the games they need to turn up for are those against the likes of Bradford and HKR. It's no use losing gallantly to Saints, they are not our competition, if we have no energy for today.

HKR were pumped, industrious and determined. They gave us a lesson in teamwork and effort and won almost every single ruck in both attack and defence. We are relegation material based on that showing.

So what now? Leeds in the cup is now just a distraction we don't need. Leeds away in the League is a no hoper, then it's Cas at home. What we do between now and then should have everything to do with that game and if anything comes inbetween it should be considered a bonus.

Bad day!

If this lot think they are top eight material then they are deluded. Serious question, who are we supposedly better than of the teams above us? None that i can see, and most of those sides seem well coached. Below us Catalans are starting to pick up form and will climb the table, London are gone. So its us and Bradford for the other place. Their deduction might just save us but i expect them to bring some players in now the ownership is sorted which will strengthen them. Concentrate on the task in hand which is staying up, talk of anything else is fantasy land stuff.

You won the penalty count 8-3, the headshot was penalised and the other incident resulted in Burns going on report. Neither looked particularly bad from where I was stood.

To achieve the top 8 you have to beat the teams immediately around you which we've managed only twice. Need to concentrate on the job in hand which is avoiding the bottom 2. Forget the top 8!

Thank goodness for the Australian imports. They certainly showed the inferior club trained players how it's done. Oh and thank goodness for Washbrook's excellent defence. It really does offset the fact he offers nothing offensively.

On that note we won the penalty count 8-3. Shows just how poor we were.