Jeez I forgot about that, has it ever happened though?

I suppose it wouldn't be bad for a useless, gutless, pathetic, team with no nouse or ability and a coach not up to the job, who certain people wanted sacking and throwing on the scrap heap, resulting in him losing his livelyhood and maybe his career.

We may have a scratch side ourselves, Dave and one or two others may still be partying on Monday. The way they looked like last like night, indicates a mamouth session was looming.

Didn't bother you when you were calling Chester gash every two minutes did it. Forgot about that didn't you. To take the high ground you need to be on it to start with so pack in the faux moralising, you really don't have the credentials. Oh, and I never suggested we sacked him.

Don't expect to hear from you for a while

thanks for your concern but il always be here to put you in your place. You slaughtered the team and slaughtered the coach, Its all there in black and white. Flip flop flip flop. You were wrong again the team do have ability and nouse and they're not gutless and useless, why don't you admit it. Is the coach still not up to the job like you kept saying or have you changed your mind AGAIN. I was correct before your a frit

Give it a rest, it's getting a bit boring now. PM me if you must and let people get on with the thread.

Didn't you start a thread saying Poching can't coach.
I know you didn't say sack him, but that does imply you didn't want him to stay.

Sure did and at the time it needed asking and I’m still not totally on board.

Your right I didn’t say sack him, utterly pointless even if that’ had been what I wanted.

All I did was ask people if they thought WP couldn’t coach at SL, a fair question. Funny thing is that at the time most agreed including some who backtracked quicker than an MP.

However what’s really ridiculous is the idea that any thing I or anyone else says on here could lead to Poching losing his livelihood. If he does it will be totally down to him and his players as it always is.

If Mopsey thinks otherwise then he needs to go around to Chris Chester and apologies to him and his family straight away. The bloke has more faces and identities than a town hall clock and a few on here can back that up.

I’ll make my judgement on WP FWIW after the first ten matches of the new season. He’s got a lot of space to bring in new blood so it should be fun.

You didn't ask. You were adamant as were a lot of others.
I think I've been pretty steady in my views.
I said I like Poching and thought he could turn it around. I'd go as far as to say not many coaches can do what he's done. Plenty have failed.

There is no 10 games for me. He gets a full season.
Nearly all of his signings so far have looked good to me and even Butler is starting to look the part.
I look forward to what he can do in the recruitment this year even though he has the limitations all coaches have at Belle Vue.

To be fair to Mopsey and all the others who were saying it, Chester was rubbish!

He benefited from a perfect storm early on, Brian Smiths recruitment and strict regime set it up nicely for a more lackadaisical Chester to reap the rewards. He also benefited from a number of other clubs having very poor seasons, rebuilding & coaches that didn’t work like Cunningham at Sts. Sts, Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Catalan, Huddersfield all went through a couple of seasons of poor form for one or more reasons, that allowed the likes of us, Cas & Salford to threaten the top 6. Kear then shored up the Chester regime for a season but once he left there was a speedy decline and deterioration.

So unlike Willie Poching who has a very decent winning % stretching back to late last season, Chester had plenty of time to prove to everyone (almost) how utterly awful he was as a coach.

He did sign David Fifita though

"Butler is starting to look the part". What? Because he made three half decent carries last night? Give me strength. Fickle as owt this. Hope he comes good but it's a bit early to be coming out with that.

Tbf not seen much of him, how many games has he played for us, like 4/5. Tbf he was solid against Hull Kr, made a better impact than Aydin who I thought was poor last night. Be interesting and good to see if Butler can recapture the form that got him in the knights team.

So that's why I said 'nearly all the signings' and 'starting to look'
I haven't said he's good.
I am definitely not fickle.

Before the start of any season I think 20 points is a base target return… anything above that starts to move us towards the playoffs…

If we can make 20 points that will be a good finish

I think Saints getting there bottoms kicked by Wigan yesterday suggests that we will face a stronger side than expected. It was good though.

Spot on ,couldn’t have said it any better myself

Wigan really beat them up , would think they will be minus Walmsley and Hurrell as both looked like they picked up injuries to me.

Yep, it was good to see!


I still think they will still rest a few as they can still win the hubcap next weekend v toulouse.

The team will be a hybrid team I'd imagine. There were 8 players who didn't play in either the first team or senior academy game.

Hill, Martyn, Moss, Royle, Baxter, Pemberton, Delaney, Norman. Hill is injured I believe, but most of the other 7 look likely to play against you. Simm, Hurrell and Walmsley were obviously injured against Wigan and the idiots at the RFL have banned Knowles and Sironen.

I'd expect the likes of LMS, Batchelor, Lussick and Bennison to play, potentially Lees, Paasi and Wingfield too.

Possibly something like:

Bennison
Martyn
Davies
Batchelor
Sambou
Welsby
Moss
Paasi
Lussick
Lees
Royle
Bell
Wingfield

LMS
Pemberton
Norman
Buckley

I don't think there's a worse player than Knowles in Super League for continual use of the shoulder charge. Third man in with a cheap shot is his speciality.

I'll see your Morgan Knowles and raise you a James Bentley!

Bentley is a head shot specialist but rarely gets away without punishment.

I would suggest a few things that will help us to match Salford's "impressive" season in which they have garnered 8 more points than us.
1. Go through the season with a very low number of injuries as Salford have done.
2. Get Warrington and Hull to implode again opening up a top 6 space.
3. Have a veto on certain referees who have destroyed several of our games with their bizarre refereeing.
4. Play from a ground that Sky want to feature - nearly there.
5. Don't pay our way as a club and spend the money on players we can't afford in the hope that someone comes along and bales us out.
6. Try not to play Leeds without a single available centre and having two second rows making their debuts it that extremely difficult position.

Spot on, especially point 5 - it’s only a matter of time - you can fool some of the people……..