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| Just been reading the St Helens forum.
Looks like the fans giving him a hard time.
As were probably going to be in the hunt for props, would he be worth a shout, if he were to become available
Was a fans favourite in his previous spell with us.
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| He's a bit like Tautai - we loved him because he was a Leeds reject, a big character and a grafter; but he has the same errors in him now that he had for us - good for a few cock-ups in every game. Maybe he suffers in comparison to Walmsley - but he's not a prop I look at and wish we had.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Just been reading the St Helens forum.
Looks like the fans giving him a hard time.
As were probably going to be in the hunt for props, would he be worth a shout, if he were to become available
Was a fans favourite in his previous spell with us.'"
In my opinion I think Kyle played his best for us, hence being at Saints, but I just don't think he plays as good as he can for them. Would be a nice addition if it happened but I don't think it would as he wanted away while with us and also so called bigger clubs with bigger pockets will I'm sure be in the hunt.
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| I liked him at Wakefield and he deserved his chance to move to a bigger club.
Times have changed now. I assume his salary is higher and he'll also tempt other clubs.
So I'd take him, but he isn't top of my list.
We can attract good players now so don't have to settle for just anything, and I'd rather have the type of player Amor was when we got him, who is hungry to prove himself.
I'd still take Mullally from Leeds
As Cas are looking at other props, I'd keep my eye on Springer and Cook. Both would go well with us. Especially Springer.
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| Quote ="bren2k"He's a bit like Tautai - we loved him because he was a Leeds reject, a big character and a grafter; but he has the same errors in him now that he had for us - good for a few cock-ups in every game. Maybe he suffers in comparison to Walmsley - but he's not a prop I look at and wish we had.'"
Don't normally disagree with your opinion on players but I do here. Amor is first class far more than a Saints reject IMHO. Saints fans are fickle and tend not to value graft which is Amor's big strength.
I'd have him back in a heart beat, he'd start every game IMO.
Fifita, England, Amor, Huby and with Hirst and Baldwinson as back up - that would be a monster unit.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I liked him at Wakefield and he deserved his chance to move to a bigger club.
Times have changed now. I assume his salary is higher and he'll also tempt other clubs.
So I'd take him, but he isn't top of my list.
We can attract good players now so don't have to settle for just anything, and I'd rather have the type of player Amor was when we got him, who is hungry to prove himself.
I'd still take Mullally from Leeds
As Cas are looking at other props, I'd keep my eye on Springer and Cook. Both would go well with us. Especially Springer.'"
I thought I'd read somewhere that Springer is on the move at the end of this contract.
Edited. He signed a two yr extension in February.
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| I'd have Amor back in a heartbeat.
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| I'd have him back. Think he liked it here but I can't see Saints letting him go unless he's OOC?
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| Regarding Tautai. He's a liability for Wigan.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Liability with a new 3 yr contract'"
Offered and taken before last night's game no doubt?
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| Tautai probably represents better value for money than the capture of Frank Paul the wrecking ball.
You look at who Wigan have signed in the last couple of years.
The majority of them have been former players, not players who they are willing to take a risk on.
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| Amor is a decent player and so is Tautai, I would have either back. Mullally I liked at the time he was with us and he's got better, very awkward player to tackle and deal with for the opposition. Springer is decent as well.
Really says something about how far we've come that two years ago we were gutted to see Daniel Smith go to Hudds. Wouldn't have him back now.
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| I personally wouldn't have either Amor or Tautai back. I don't think either would bring anything extra to the squad and I'd see it as a bit of a step backwards, especially if they're demanding decent money
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"I personally wouldn't have either Amor or Tautai back. I don't think either would bring anything extra to the squad and I'd see it as a bit of a step backwards, especially if they're demanding decent money'"
Neither are a step backwards, didn't people say the same about Grix and Wood? if we start thinking were so good we don't need players like A more we are in trouble in a big big way. If we had some obvious homegrown front row talent at the moment I might think differently but at the moment on Crowther looks capable and he's more a S/R IMHO.
Next year will be the difficult third album so to speak where teams really will be waiting for us. Everything is great right now but we still have gaps in the team and players who IMHO might get found out next year.
I think Walker was a big part of next years plans so his removal has left a big gap in the props to which neither Masson or Baldwinson are the answer. Just my opinion but Amor is one of a number of players who fit the bill.
Anyway it's not down to us, if CC and JK want him I'm happy to follow their lead, ditto if they don't - they have done pretty well so far
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| Pretty much agree there Vasty.
I think Baldwinson has spent a bit of his career playing in the back row, and Hasson was regarded as a utility forward.
For me, in the squad as it stands we have 4 out and out props in England, Fifita, Huby and Hirst.
Adding someone like Amor would improve the squad, and is also British, so no worries on the quota spots.
As well as Kyle Amor, Matty Smith is also having a hard time there too
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Pretty much agree there Vasty.
I think Baldwinson has spent a bit of his career playing in the back row, and Hasson was regarded as a utility forward.
For me, in the squad as it stands we have 4 out and out props in England, Fifita, Huby and Hirst.
Adding someone like Amor would improve the squad, and is also British, so no worries on the quota spots.
As well as Kyle Amor, Matty Smith is also having a hard time there too'"
Talking of props EW and Hirst in particular, I'm a little concerned that there hasn't been any announcement concerning him regarding a new contract, it may well be that it's already sorted but when others' have extended their contracts the club were quick to announce them, but in this instance nothing so if he doesn't commit then maybe Amor might be a good signing.
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| My thoughts exactly Chissitt.
That is, unless of course, they are wanting to keep us at 6 props in the squad, which we had, but improving on the calibre of them.
If that would be the case, that would be tough on Keegan.
Going with Mrs EW this afternoon to Post Office Road. Will keep a watch on Baldwinsons performance if hes playing.
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| I've been hoping for some time we would re sign Hirst but coming up to the last few games of the season I can't help but think we'be missed the boat. Hope I'm wrong.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I've been hoping for some time we would re sign Hirst but coming up to the last few games of the season I can't help but think we'be missed the boat. Hope I'm wrong.'"
Don't think we've missed the boat.
Problem will be an old one I'm afraid. Sign player with no form as a speculator almost certainly on the cheap. Player does well. Player gets agent and agent gets into the players ear.
Club make bigger offer but agent says it's not enough and so it goes on.
Personally I'm willing to go with what the club thinks on this.
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| not like you to confuse me chissit excuse my age ew whoes he, always rated baldwinson through juniors and a few times with feath a young prop with quiet a bit of experiance a bit of a rarity, dont pick on me for this ew , mj etc cant do with it mate
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| Quote ="try scorer"not like you to confuse me chissit excuse my age ew whoes he, always rated baldwinson through juniors and a few times with feath a young prop with quiet a bit of experiance a bit of a rarity, dont pick on me for this ew , mj etc cant do with it mate'"
Well I certainly agree with you on Baldwinson ts, it's also my considered opinion that you would benefit from another holiday
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| Quote ="vastman"Player gets agent and agent gets into the players ear.
Club make bigger offer but agent says it's not enough and so it goes on.'"
Saw an old Cloughy quote on Twitter yesterday about football in the 70's, that is still apposite today:
"The only agent back then was 007 and he only shagged women, not entire football clubs."
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| Kyle A is not in the Saints 19.
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| Very strange.
Personally, he would be one of their first on the teamsheet from their current squad.
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