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| Sometimes when I post on here I wonder if I'm being very simplistic and naïve. This is one such occasion but I'll post anyway.
There are two ground issues going on at present. The long running NM fiasco seems to be the main one at the moment.
The other is where do we play in the meantime. Can't be BV for much longer unless things regarding NM are rectified in the very near future.
The favourite seems to be Dewsbury, both short and long term. The issue seems to be how long the RFL will allow us to play there.
Now this is where I'm probably being simplistic but why do we have to be Wakefield, why can't we just be Trinity or even Trinity Renegades (for example). Drop the Wakefield bit for now as regards the team. Arsenal, Saracens and Wasps for example - no geographical ties.
I was thinking along the lines of forming two companies. The existing club based in Wakefield, and it's wholly owned subsidiary based at the Dewsbury Stadium. This retains a presence in Wakefield, creates a new SL club in Dewsbury.
I know it may be naïve and it's a fiddle but could it be done? Maybe not how I've phrased it but something along those lines.
Effectively we are selling our SL franchise to ourselves. It's probably all wrong but hey I just wondered.
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| Fair idea and not naive at all. If we are to play outside of the city, how about with any spare cash we buy / lease Cafe Nero (or simmilar) and make it the headquarters. A cafe bar in the centre of Wakefield rather than simply a shop would be a great asset and a focal point for Club Trinity, players and families, not just purchasers of shirts, drinkers etc.
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| The name is important to me. Over a hundred years of history in that.
I don't mind if we move. I do mind if we change the name.
A big part of the identity of the club is in that name.
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| And Arsenal does actually refer to the original location and Wasps got their name as they split from the original club (along with Harlequins. Not sure about Sarrys.
The point for them is they chose their name before the identity was set. I'll bet you none of them want to change it now.
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| Not for me. Wakefield Trinity is steeped in history and is recognised in places all over the world. Peter Box would be grinning like the proverbial cat. Remember our old saying Wakefield til I die.
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| I'd go as far as to say I'd rather play in Dewsbury and keep the name than play in Wakefield and lose it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd go as far as to say I'd rather play in Dewsbury and keep the name than play in Wakefield and lose it.'"
Wakefield Trinity Wanderers
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| I left Wakefield 39 years ago and still say that that's where I'm from: I would be very sad to see Trinity not do the same, but if a permanent relocation to another place occurred, it would be difficult not to rename. The "Wasps" name avoided that dilemma, when they upped sticks from London/M25-land: if we go from Wakey for good, then stand-alone "Trinity" would get my vote.
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| Of all the good things MC has done, bringing back TRINITY ranks amongst the best.
As far as Wakefield is concerned, the City centre is becoming a third world dump and the council are an inept embarrassment. I once was proud of Wakefield but rapidly I am loosing all loyalty.
TRINITY playing up the road at Owl Lane is far more appealing to me than walking through the back streets of filth and degradation to that dump we call a ground.
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| I don't think it's naive, I think it's downright ridiculous. If I'm going to support a team from Dewsbury that's not called Wakefield then I might as well just follow Dewsbury instead. Or Brisbane Broncos. Both would be just as relevant.
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| I can see where your coming from but I think you've too much time on your hands Vasty
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I don't think it's naive, I think it's downright ridiculous. If I'm going to support a team from Dewsbury that's not called Wakefield then I might as well just follow Dewsbury instead. Or Brisbane Broncos. Both would be just as relevant.'"
That's fine, however I don't think you get it - we are leaving Wakefield that's for certain unless a miracle occurs and we need to survive whether you like it or not. So what's your alternative, if it's less ridiculous I'd run with it,
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"I can see where your coming from but I think you've too much time on your hands Vasty'"
To ask a question
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| Quote ="vastman"That's fine, however I don't think you get it - we are leaving Wakefield that's for certain unless a miracle occurs and we need to survive whether you like it or not. So what's your alternative, if it's less ridiculous I'd run with it,'"
I understand why we would move to Dewsbury. I don't like it, but I understand. There's no need at all to drop Wakefield from our name.
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| For Wakefield to have any future, in a RL context, it's critical that wherever the team plays, they remain as, Wakefield Trinity.
The major issue would be IF we moved out of the city permanently, in which case "we" should adopt the name of our new home, like Ossett Trinity (yes, I know they have a football team of that name) or wherever else we end up.
IF we moved any significant distance "Wakefield", over a period of time, would lose their identity and we'd all be better off getting used to it.
There would be no sense at all having Newcastle Trinity or Coventry Trinity. This would be merely paying lip service to the fact they may have "bought" our licence, which would be a very, very sad day for the City of Wakefield.
Having said that, the City doesn't give toss about the club and whether it lives or dies.
Mr Box has made this blindingly clear.
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| Dewsbury's ground is about 50 metres the wrong side of the Wakefield/Kirklees boundary. Let's put pressure on Box to negotiate a land swap with Kirklees - we get the stadium, they get a bit of Wakefield MDC in return. Bingo!
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"For Wakefield to have any future, in a RL context, it's critical that wherever the team plays, they remain as, Wakefield Trinity.
The major issue would be IF we moved out of the city permanently, in which case "we" should adopt the name of our new home, like=#FF4000 Ossett Trinity (yes, I know they have a football team of that name) or wherever else we end up.
IF we moved any significant distance "Wakefield", over a period of time, would lose their identity and we'd all be better off getting used to it.
There would be no sense at all having Newcastle Trinity or Coventry Trinity. This would be merely paying lip service to the fact they may have "bought" our licence, which would be a very, very sad day for the City of Wakefield.
Having said that, the City doesn't give toss about the club and whether it lives or dies.
Mr Box has made this blindingly clear.'"
It's a rugby club. Ossett Trinity ARLFC.
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| As much as we may think the Council had let us down I am Wakefield born and bred and am proud of that. I started watching Wakefield Trinity over 55 years ago and I was pleased when we reverted back to Wakefield Trinity.
Wakefield Trinity had to remain our name, nothing more or less.
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| When did the club confirm that dewsbury was the option?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Of all the good things MC has done, bringing back TRINITY ranks amongst the best.
=#FF0000As far as Wakefield is concerned, the City centre is becoming a third world dump and the council are an inept embarrassment. I once was proud of Wakefield but rapidly I am loosing all loyalty.
TRINITY playing up the road at Owl Lane is far more appealing to me than walking through the back streets of filth and degradation to that dump we call a ground.'" I was travelling through town and turned down Market street, sat outside reflex was 4 Europeans ed to high heaven sat supping out of the vodka bottles and that was at 12'oclock, its becoming a right hole
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| Quote ="snowie"I was travelling through town and turned down Market street, sat outside reflex was 4 Europeans vexed to high heaven sat supping out of the vodka bottles and that was at 12'oclock, its becoming a right poop hole
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They might have been over here on holiday if they were Europeans
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"Dewsbury's ground is about 50 metres the wrong side of the Wakefield/Kirklees boundary. Let's put pressure on Box to negotiate a land swap with Kirklees - we get the stadium, they get a bit of Wakefield MDC in return. Bingo!'"
Methinks that Dewsbury Rams may object to playing in "Wakefield", KH. We could offer Kirklees St Catherines Street as an enclave in exchange though.
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| Quote ="snowie"I was travelling through town and turned down Market street, sat outside reflex was 4 Europeans vexed to high heaven sat supping out of the vodka bottles and that was at 12'oclock, its becoming a right poop hole
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That will have been Artem and his gang, enriching Wakefield with their Eastern European culture. We had to call the paramedics once as he was laid out on Cliff Parade absolutely sozzled. When they arrived they were on first name terms with him, said he was one of their 'regulars'.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"When did the club confirm that dewsbury was the option?'"
They have decided on here.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Of all the good things MC has done, bringing back TRINITY ranks amongst the best.
As far as Wakefield is concerned, the City centre is becoming a third world dump and the council are an inept embarrassment. I once was proud of Wakefield but rapidly I am loosing all loyalty.
TRINITY playing up the road at Owl Lane is far more appealing to me than walking through the back streets of filth and degradation to that dump we call a ground.'"
Sorry but have you walked through Dewsbury town centre on a Saturday afternoon? I have and Wakefield is posh in comparison!
Dewsbury, not for me in any guise. I'm done after nearly 60 years.
How could we not have a plan b after all these years?
I just cannot see anything but despair. MC and CB will walk away and we're well and truly kna.....d
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