After what we've seen recently we now have a 2 week break before the Hull game.

Who can we expect back fit? Collis? Lynne? Kirmo? TT?

If any if these are fit, who gets dropped? Reports from both sets of fans suggest Walshaw went well - will he keep his place? How did Molloy go - I've seen no reports? And do we persist with Sammut at FB, which, if other players are fit, could mean Mathers making way?

We have time now to do some physical stuff, then freshen up before thus game (so do Hull mind), so are we likely to see a big effort which normally comes in these games?

At the moment I cannot decide whether to go or not, it may come down to the selection of the 19 at the time, but I certainly think players should be rewarded for good performances with keeping their place - which has not always been the case in recent years!

From what I've read Walshaw came up with the goods and in my opinion should keep his place at centre, regardless of whoever else is fit. That, to me, is how you reward players and where the competition for places comes in.
I've backed Mathers on here on occasions and I say either play him at FB or drop him. Thing is if you drop him altogether your left with Sammut at FB and I think he's better at No 6.
Kirmond, Collis and Tautau when fit are such quality players that they have to play.

Even if you know that it still leaves Agar plenty of wiggle room to come with his crazy permutations.

I also agree with rewarding good performance but Agar prefers to persist with rewarding poor performance.

So its your call matey but I won't be going over to Hull.

If Walshaw is dropped for Lyne after that performance then Agar is a bigger fool then anybody ever thought. And once again Washbrook was dire yesterday. So with Agar saying that everyone bar ali should be fit in two weeks time then danny boy should be no where near the squad. We shall see.

Bearing in mind the success of it over the weekend I think we should all be going in Grim Reaper fancy dress.

Wak shaw went really well yesterday but I think he looks more like a back rower these days than a centre and think he has earned a shot at playing there. I would even play him in the front row ahead of both scruton and Anderson on current form.

Would be good to see tautai and collis and kirmond back because yesterday they worked hard but offered very little in the way of flair.

You are Richard Agar and I claim my £5.

Why would anyone move a guy who has just had a stormer at centre to prop?!

Anderson had suspected cracked ribs, but has carried on playing. He was excellent before the injury so lets not pick him out when he is probably holding it together to support the team.
Scruton has been better but even so, Walshaw is not a better prop.

Back row is busy. Walshaw showing up well in centre does not make him a certainty for second row. He should keep centre if he is good enough. I wouldn't drop Ryan for him.

Absolutely agree, utterly bizarre logic or weird dogma from said poster.

We have loads of S/R's. In Walshaw we have a big strong destructive Centre who can tackle - and a centre is what he has been most of his career.

Any other club would have had him in the centre a year ago. In Australia Walshaw would be considered a centre until he was about 25 then he'd move to the pack. Agar is happy to waste a player on a position we are well stocked and not use said player in a position he knows well.

To say Walshaw is more of a S/R than a Centre is tosh as every time he plays centre he looks bob on.

If Walshaw lack a bit of pace put a speedy winger on his outside - Riley or Lyne would do but we'd probably get Mathers.

We can expect another thumping and it will happen again and again until agar is removed. Walshaw is a country mile ahead of Vera always has been and always will be. Why has Vera been played week in week out is testament to Agars coaching abilities. Couldnt tackle a sunday dinner that kid.

I think Lynne has tried hard this season and has been one of the better players (not hard I know) but I agree he's not as good as Walshaw.

One problem is that if Collis is back (and properly fit) he is a certainty for the centre. Even before Walshaw?
I'm thinking Mathers was actually taking Collis's place and Walshaw was on other side.
So then the question is, to keep Walshaw and also play Collis, you have to drop Mathers or Siejka, and Lyne, Fox or Riley

It's a tough call on the wing. Each has his own problems. I like Lyne but he keeps making mistakes that seem like easy ones he shouldn't make. Fox is good when good but has not hit full stride this year and Riley is good enough without being flash. He takes the high ball, so I'm inclined to say he stays just to plug that normally glaring flaw for us.

Assuming Lyne can play on the other wing I'd go for this:
1) Sammut
2) Lyne (but maybe Fox!)
3) Collis
4) Walshaw
5) Riley
6) Sykes
7) Godinet

Siejka can spell at hooker when McShane runs out of puff.

I know I picked Sammut over Mathers, and Sykes at full back but for all I have been calling for him to be closer to the action, his position at full back is growing on me.
He has much more urgency that Mathers has, and is a great attacking strike player from there.
As long as Sykes can keep his levels up at stand off I think Mathers is the utility player for a while. Mathers clearly has great organisation skills but we are gradually getting that back so am thinking we stick this way from now on and give it a chance.
If Collis not fit then Mathers is back in.

You can be as logical as you want but with Nero in charge you're washing your breath.

Walshaw,Hull Agar - 10 mins at most might make subs bench

If a player comes in and does a good job they should start the following week. So Walshaw and Collis for me.
I haven't seen the stats but is Molloy any worse than Washbrook?

Don't think I would play Scrutton on reputation over current form.

We have won any games back to back this season, we are very inconsistent, so although you would think we should win, I wouldn't be shocked by a wakey victory.

I would and that's a first for me.

DaveK - you aint seen us play yet but you will know how it goes with your old coach.

We have kick started the red & white side of Hull, may as well do the same for the black & white side!

Assuming everyone is fit,
I would be tempted to go

1) Riley
2) Fox
3) Collis
4) Walshaw
5) Lynne
6) Sammut
7) Godinet


Moore
9) McShane
10)Anderson
11)Kirmond
12)Ryan
13)Annakin

Subs
Raleigh
Molloy
Smith
Wildie

But Tricky, you yourself have criticised Agar for tinkering but you now suggest putting a 4th different fullback in the team who hasn't played there much before. Can't have it both ways.

If Wildie is back I agree he should be in.
I'd rest Kirmond. He just looks shot. If he can be put right in two weeks then great but if he's still playing with painkilers I'd rather he sort it out.
If Tautai I'd play him instead of Kirmond.
Annakin a must for me instead of Washbrook.

I expect the players to be given several days off and on the days that they are asked to come into work perhapes stay at work for a couple of hours, I expect the players and coaching staff to talk of a top 8 finish and beleive that there is no chance of them been relegated. I expect the coaching staff not to be answerable to anyone at the club and none of the poor performances, mind blowing tactics and selection and poor squad management to be questioned by anyone at the club. I expect to hear that Wildie, Trout and Walshaw have had their loan deals extended and are not available to us. I expect to hear more about the squad needing time to gel, I do not expect to hear anyone from the club mention that our defence and structure has been pathetic and that the players have been called in for clear the air talks to get to the bottom re their pathetic performances. I expect that the squad to play Hull will include Washbrook and Seiker ( both should be loaned to Barrow ) . I then expect us to make players play in positions that they are not suited to and for a structure to be put in place that involves changing positions depending on if we are attacking or defending. I expect Richard Moore to start as sub and only come on when the game is lost and be brilliant. I expect our body language to be terrible and for our captain to play injured. I expect Hull to stuff us without getting out of first gear. I expect that our lack of pre season, lack of time to gel, injuries, the ref to be blamed. I then expect not to hear anything from the club as to what they are doing to pervent more poor performances and for them to announce that the coaching staff have had a pay increase and contract extension. I expect hear that Liam Kay and Danny Cowling were MOM in their games. I expect Catalans to win their game and for their players and staff to state that the turning point in their season was the action of their board foolwing their defeat to Wakefield which made them understand their resonsibilities to the club and fans.I expect London to continue improving and from Steve Ferres to get a positive response fro Bradford.

I hate people who sit on the fence

It's interesting how people criticise Agar for tinkering, then advocate the very same thing themselves; Walshaw at prop? Riley at fb?

This is a very simple game - why do so many people insist on over-complicating it?

Riley has played full back before and is a good broken field runner. Him playing at full back allows sammut to play in the halves where he is most effective, keeps more pace in the backline and keeps Sykes who is now too slow and not a half and mathers who simply isn't good enough out of the team.