Man of the match for me yesterday, looks to have had a big off season and packed on the pounds. Looks poweful, didnt take a backwards step and Always looked to give 100% and on more than one occasion chased back to make cover tackles when Mathers couldn't.

Agreed. He had an excellent game, especially with his front row partner in the "early" bath.
Certainly a wlling runner and plays without fear.

Said the sme thing myself after the game. He was my "Man of the Match"

I think he is a good player, albeit as a back row forward. Agar rates him very highly and rightly so.

I have seen the guy train he is deceptively strong and well built. He is well conditioned so I would have no complaints if he filled in at prop.

So the Trout debate continues.

Why do people pigeon hole young players? To say Trouts future lays at S/R is utter nonsense for a 21 year old - he has plenty of time to develop in any position in the pack.

A few points...

I made a point of watching him and the first thing I noticed was a fair bit taller than Stu Dickinson - a player many on here were desperate to see as our 5th prop. So clearly size is not the issue unless you are myopic.

He made a few errors. However he attempted to rectify them. To make a mistake is only human, it's how you respond to them that really counts - he responded well which is what a Prop or any player needs, he has attitude and ticker for a young lad.

He learns quick and adapts well. When I saw him in the academy and when he first played first team he ran upright. Poore runs upright as does Amor but they are both the size of a house and they do so to keep their hands free. Trout isn't big enough for that and has learned to go in low. He only got dumped back once and nearly came out the other side twice. As he perfects it he will make breaks eventually. This method takes guts, because head down is where the knees and elbows are.

Paul Gallen who is small uses this technique. Though he only props occasionally these days, when he does he still makes yards. Now I'm not suggesting Trout is the new Gallon. However he shows that if you adapt you can play any position in the pact no matter what size you are.

Trout can be a good club prop if he so wishes, another JT - it's up to him. I suspect he will go for S/R or utility however that's a congested market so he may think twice. Give the lad some slack.

Maybe I am mistaken as time erodes the memory somewhat, but I seem to remember the number 8 being the stand up off-loading prop and the number 10 often shorter and head down and at em.
JT ,Ted Campbell, Steve Lyons, Don Vines and Belly,when he played prop, being examples.
The point is if they are good enough they will come through.
I think Trout will.
People keep talking about Ben Gledhill.
Does anyone know how he is going on at Salford?
How many 1st team games has he under his belt?
Not being provocative, just interested.

Can answer my own question.
Played in 10 2012.

Knee reconstruction may be part of that reason.

Thanks,didn't know that.

Playing him at prop would be career suicide for the lad.

Far too small to compete at top level at prop, get him in back row give him chance to develop.

Yeah whatever, you're wrong but whatever.

In my opinion Vasty is correct, There has been plenty smaller that have made it in SL, and not just made it, been great players. As the famous quote goes don't be fooled by the physique.

Child

Not a reconstruction but broken knee cap against widnes. They rushed him back a bit quick which prolonged his absence. Going great guns with a full pre-season under his belt. Should have a good season providing the club make it

which props in the sl era who are smaller than trout have made it? and which have being great?

The fact is, to say size doesn't come in to it would be stupid I know, however its not everything, fielden in his prime, 15 stone 12, tough as nails and great technique, scott taylor 16 stone 2 ? Lee mossop, 16 stone 2 ? or trout, 16 stone 5 ? Trouts put a hell of a lot of size on and fact is he was the best forward on the pitch on Boxing Day. It's just my opinion people that say he is not a prop may eat there words at some point

How big is Trout? height & weight? He looks about 5ft 10 and 15 stone......

Just under 6ft2 and at the beginning of last season he was 15 stone 10 pounds according to the official SL website. And he's put some noticeable size on.

would say danny nutley was smaller he was under 6ft but bulkier but had the heart of a lion played state of origin and gave good service to castleford and warrington size isnt everything a good heart and desire mean a lot

I'm 5.11 and he's a fair bit taller than me so I'd guess 6.2 sounds right.
He's also got a mahoosive head so I would imagine he could fill out well as he also looked pretty slight for a front rower.
By the time he's got a couple more years on him he could well be a very different shape and fit the front rowers bill very well.

This is exactly right. I think vasty is taking it as people saying Trout will never be a prop, however people label him as S/R because he isnt ready for that role [uyet.[/u As you say, time will tell.

As I mentioned in another topic where Trouty was discussed, forcing him down the prop role now, because thats all he has ever been will ruin him.

For the meantime, Trout will do very well as WTW Second Row Forward. Come a few years he may develop into WTW Prop Forward.

Good luck to him, because I rate him highly as a player. Lets hope we get to see how far he can develop and is with us for years to come.

Been a lot of cracking players start out in one position and ended up elsewhere in the side after filling out.Brian Lockwood started out scrum half and soon filled out and ended up prop even though he wasnt the biggest prop.Did Bill Ashurst not start out as a centre and he ended up second row.Some of our past great ball playing forwards have started out in the backs so like wise if trout fills out a bit more no reason why he could not move to prop.At the moment I see him as S/R but with a bit more game time and filling out who knows.

Nigel Bell went the other way, started as a scrum half and ended up playing prop at times. Not the biggest or heaviest prop but a heart as big as a bucket more than compensated.

Ben Westwood anyone?