I was just using the www.superleague.co.uk to work out our average home attendence (which turned out to be 7,951, which is looking pretty good) and on the filter drop down menus there was a list of all the superleague teams as expected....also in the list were North Wales Crusaders. It seemed to be a random error in the websites code, but try it out, its really wierd coincidence that its team that everyoone believed the RFL were bank rolling and not someone like Fev or Halifax. 1.2b. Copyrighted materials * Linking to sites carrying content without the permission of the copyright owner, or mentioning how to access such material, is forbidden. * This also includes posting links to, or explaining how to access, unauthorised video or audio of copyrighted broadcasts and recordings. * When linking to official audio or video, only do so to the relevant page on the official web site. Do not link to other sites or directly to a media stream as this is usually against the terms and conditions of the service. =#FF0000* Photographs may only be posted where you own the copyright, or have been granted permission to post them. * Copying full articles or posting video is prohibited. * When including any such material you must post the source. Just link to the web page in future please. El Rey.

I was just using the www.superleague.co.uk to work out our average home attendence (which turned out to be 7,951, which is looking pretty good) and on the filter drop down menus there was a list of all the superleague teams as expected....also in the list were North Wales Crusaders. It seemed to be a random error in the websites code, but try it out, its really wierd coincidence that its team that everyoone believed the RFL were bank rolling and not someone like Fev or Halifax. 1.2b. Copyrighted materials * Linking to sites carrying content without the permission of the copyright owner, or mentioning how to access such material, is forbidden. * This also includes posting links to, or explaining how to access, unauthorised video or audio of copyrighted broadcasts and recordings. * When linking to official audio or video, only do so to the relevant page on the official web site. Do not link to other sites or directly to a media stream as this is usually against the terms and conditions of the service. =#FF0000* Photographs may only be posted where you own the copyright, or have been granted permission to post them. * Copying full articles or posting video is prohibited. * When including any such material you must post the source. Just link to the web page in future please. El Rey.

Ignoring the conspiracy theory bit and focusing on the attendance, we are 49 short of an 8,000 average and we have 4 home games left against Wigan, Leeds, Saints and Widnes.

Last year we got 8763 for Leeds, 8163 for Wigan, 5985 for Saints and obviously nothing for Widnes. If we can get a similar figure for Widnes as we did for this years Salford game (674icon_cool.gif that would leave us needing to get just under an extra 3000 across those games to beat the 8,000 mark for the season. That is an average of about 10% increase on last years figures.

It is definitely achievable and would be an excellent platform to take the club forward and a huge credit to Andrew Glover and his team.

Come on guys, keep getting down there in numbers and we can do it.

Surely It would be up by more than 10% If we hit a average of 8000?

It would be great to see average gates of 8000+!

Anyone willing to estimate the season ticket offer for next year? It will be interesting to see the prices! Too high and the uptake could be smaller, too low and they could be losing out on quite a bit of cash. I'd guess £125 early bird.

Yes it would.

What I was trying to say, although having read it I can see that it's not overly clear, is that if we can get a 10% increase on those 3 games against Leeds, Wigan, Saints then we should surpass the 8,000 mark.

Last time I looked we were up by about 30% on the respective games from last year.

If Leeds and Wigan gates are the same, Sts and Widnes would both need to be over 7600.
or average 8,132 for each game. Not impossible. Will depend on tv and whether Widnes have anything to play for.

£125 early bird season ticket price for next year looking to attract the same number of sales plus a few more by running a small campaign, coinciding with a good signing or two and chairman press releases.

We where chatting about the new prices the other day and obviously £100 is too cheap but to go straight back to £200 plus would undo all of the hardwork.

£125 seems about right to me, then £150 and then back up to £200 for NM

can i say as a cas fan your crowds this year have impressed me more than any. The amount it has increased this year a long with people been friendly barring the odd one like all clubs, but yeah on a whole well done Wakefield Trinity.

I'm quite glad this turned into a serious conversation about attendances, the conspiracy bit was supposed to be a light hearted bit.

I think I'd like to see the ticket prices rise a little bit slower (well I'm sure most buyers would as well for obvious reasons) just as to not put anyone off. I think the latest Newmarket news will be a great boost to sales for next year as well.

To be honest, I thought £125 would have been good value this year never mind next. They can't push it up too quickly but it worked well this year so why not again next.
Its worth it just to get extra credit on the franchise. By dropping the price you are effectively paying for a bigger attendance figure. If you pick the right amount you get both money and attendance increase obviously.

I think £140 is more than fair, that's only a bit over £10 per game, I know things are tight for everyone, but the club needs to generate money if we are going to progress and at fractionally over half the current price, I still think its a bargain.
It's up to us to get the most out of them by turning up week in week out and if not encourage a non regular to use it and maybe they will become future ST holders.
I think with a decent season this time around and a good bit of team strengthening and marketing we shoul be looking to increase our ST members next season on that premise.

The game is under selling itself. No club should be allowed to sell a season ticket for less than £ 200.00

Must say I agree. Once people think the price is say£140 that is what they will always expect. When the club want to claw it back and they will, it will be very hard to get people to pay as it's become the norm. I get why clubs do it but it's a risky strategy - just look at the Bulls.

It's a tough one, £20 per adult (on the gate) game is getting pricey, and to encourage rapid growth the £100 deal was fantastic, a staged but realistic increase to about £180-£200 seems reasonable though over say the next three years.
Hopefully that will take all the current ST holders and encourage more growth and hopefully fund the squad development that will sustain the growth in the future.

Id like to see a early bird ticket offer of around the £130-£140 mark and those buying later pay say around £160-£165 that would increase earlybird sales in theory and allow us to build on from this season. With a increase again subject to getting the newmarket permission.

While i understand the reason behind this post and don't totaly dismiss it, try telling that to those fans who don't have that sort of money, you obviously are ok with paying that amount.

Not everyone is.

At a little over £15 per game I think £200 for a ST is reasonably priced if the team is challenging for a top eigh place.
I know times are tough, but that is also the case for the club too and at the end of the day, the more money the club generate helps to propel the club forward.
While I entirely accept your point, it isn't a charity and without necessary income we will never achieve much.
It's a personal decision based on people's wish for club success against what they are able to see as spare or affordable.
I suppose the silver and bronze memberships are a key to this too.

This is the conundrum for all professional sports clubs.
Until they reach a situation where they can sell the capacity of the stadium, they have to balance the bums on seats (and the associated match day spend), to maximise their income.
Obviously there is sponsorship on top of this but, for matchday it is better to fill the stadium by selling lower priced tickets, than it is to charge a higher price and have the place half empty.
As a club, Wakefield have done really well in increasing attendances, especially in view of the ecconomic situation and ther should be an increase in numbers once Newmarket is in place but, until they can achieve close to capacity, then discounted tickets will need to remain.
All of this assumes that a lower entry price has a positive effect on crowd numbers.
ST's have been an absolute bargain this season although many ST holders have also joined the 1873 club, so there has probably been an increase in income when the two are put together, especially when factoring ion matchday spend from the increased numbers.
The club deserve congratulating on this aspect and as fans we need to keep banging the drum and helping them go forward.

Can't argue with that and have no wish to.

I don't see how we can be sure the club will raise more money by increasing prices to £200. I think it would be foolish.

The clubs not a charity, thats news to me mate, i have been donating to this worthy cause for a long time



The Gold and silver memberships do seem to work and is a big plus for fans who don't purchase a full season ticket.

My biggest gripe is (and its not aimed at Belly cos he does not mean it that way) those who have money see it differently from those who don't and in most cases don't care.

I expect and hope for a increase next season that reflects the climate in this sodding country.

£135 Early bird for existing holders and £150 Early bird for new season ticket holders and rising to £180.


We'll see.


Just a though, i paid less this season for my ST but bought 1 extra ST.

Having paid the full price for Season Tickets for many a year now , it was an excellent gesture by the club to get Wakey back in the local publics eye with the cheaper tickets.
If the tickets are increased steeply next season it would be good to see the admin team suggest an easy payment plan & like seasons gone by offer us cut price replica Shirts for say a tenner.
But the bottom line is that the club need our money & by offering cheap S Ts for long term can end up backfiring on the club, unless you are a rich uncle Ken Davy

Until we've ticked the RFL's 5000 members box, I think we still need to discount membership heavily.

I bought 3 season tickets this year: 1 concession for my dad £80, a child's for my nephew £20 and one for myself at £100, even though I'll only get to the last 2 home games, total £200. The previous season I bought a concession & 3 children's, but paid on the gate for the few matches I could get to; total £180.

At what price would I buy all 3 next year? If I can get the same for £250, I'll probably renew.

I don't think anyone expects it to be £100 considering the improvements to the club and the ground this year, but how much more? I think £130 would be a good price, i.e. a tenner a game; easy to promote.

Make it for a specific limited period, no extensions, get the money in early. I think this worked well last year.

I think a payment plan would assist some people if prices rise considerably particularly in todays economic climate.

I think everyone has their own circumstances and differing price structures will appeal to different people. This is only the second time in nearly 30 years that I've held a season ticket.

I bought two for this season. As many of you know I travel a lot so can't make a lot of games but have made around 5 home games this year and will make one or two more. As a result I consider that I've broken even on my ticket. The other ticket is for my fiancee who has health issues and is not guaranteed to attend. That ticket has been used twice so far this season and I'm unlikely to see it used for enough games to recover the cost. However at £100 a shot I have no gripes since it is a sunk cost for us and easier than trying to buy tickets the week of the match and then find out on the day that she is unable to make it. We have seated tickets because it is necessary really.

In addition, the two seats to the right of us have been sold as season tickets (the club confirmed this to me the other week when I used the bring a friend voucher) yet I've only seen them occuppied for the Cas match.

In these situations the Club has received more money than it would do otherwise as people have paid for tickets and then not attended > not attending and not paying on the gate.

The £100 offer made this an easy choice for me. At c. £200 a pop there is no way it is economically viable for us due to our circumstances.

There is an economic rule where there is a trade off between price and volume to seek to maximise returns. The higher the price = lower volume, lower price = higher volume. It is a case of maximising this at the right level; who knows where this is for Wakefield?

Overall Elston and Glover will know the numbers and how we are doing. We have around 4k season ticket holders and really need to increase this for keeping the RFL happy, I suspect this is possible.

If there is a small increase in price say to £120 or an early redemption discount price for existing season ticket holders then I think this is a good policy.

I like having our season ticket and some how think it is a good idea to retain them for some potential benefit once/if Newmarket go ahead. However, like many it is down to personal finances and I need to let my wallet rule my heart.

Definitely, also beneficial to the club as they wouldn't be "front loading" their finances a la Bulls.