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| If only it was all that easy. Easy for a player to say it but the fans deserve better (and more).
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| Quote ="Fully"If only it was all that easy. Easy for a player to say it but the fans deserve better (and more).'"
As a matter of interest fully ,how many did you think wakey brought today ?
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| Quote ="jack in the box"As a matter of interest fully ,how many did you think wakey brought today ?'"
They covered the entire Railway End width ways but there looked to be plenty of gaps in between. I'd say a travelling support of around 1750.
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| Quite shocked at some of Jason's answers there to be honest...
Saying that people at the club have known for months and months which way Box and the council were heading to...
Saying people are in 'dreamland' if they thought 2 stadiums could be delivered, a kick in the teeth for all those who are working so hard on Newmarket I'd have thought...
And to say he'd have to question fans love for the game if they wouldn't support Wakefield wherever the council says we are to play?
How can our current captain, club stalwart and legend in many people's eyes be so far out of touch with the views of the clubs fans?
Sorry Jason, you're so wrong on this one it's untrue!
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| Think we may be hearing a lot of this kind of thing in the near future, trying to win us fans over.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Think we may be hearing a lot of this kind of thing in the near future, trying to win us fans over.'"
thought the club had said noway as far as a move to glasshoughton was concerned
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| I understand were Jd is comng from, it was unrealistic to think the council would build two stadiums and in his veiws the discussions about possible ground share should have been discussed as a plan b as time is not on our side. He stated that this club has a great history and wants to watch the club doing well at the highest level in years to come and if that means ground share then so be it. If you support the club whole heartedly then if they share a ground 10mins away from were you want it, should not be a problem and i agree. JD loves this club and wants it to move forward he has put seven years of hard work to help the club go forward and i am sure he would be devastated if we lost our super league status. JD speaks without the political speal and from his heart but you cant question he wants the best for our club.
Quote ="upthecats"Quite shocked at some of Jason's answers there to be honest...
Saying that people at the club have known for months and months which way Box and the council were heading to...
Saying people are in 'dreamland' if they thought 2 stadiums could be delivered, a kick in the teeth for all those who are working so hard on Newmarket I'd have thought...
And to say he'd have to question fans love for the game if they wouldn't support Wakefield wherever the council says we are to play?
How can our current captain, club stalwart and legend in many people's eyes be so far out of touch with the views of the clubs fans?
Sorry Jason, you're so wrong on this one it's untrue!'"
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Think we may be hearing a lot of this kind of thing in the near future, trying to win us fans over.'"
if he's in "the Know" it sounds like all's done and dusted.
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| Quote ="bigalf"if he's in "the Know" it sounds like alls done and dusted.'"
I feel you may well be right, but it,s still not for me.
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| Quote ="not again"I understand were Jd is comng from, it was unrealistic to think the council would build two stadiums and in his veiws the discussions about possible ground share should have been discussed as a plan b as time is not on our side. He stated that this club has a great history and wants to watch the club doing well at the highest level in years to come and if that means ground share then so be it. If you support the club whole heartedly then if they share a ground 10mins away from were you want it, should not be a problem and i agree. JD loves this club and wants it to move forward he has put seven years of hard work to help the club go forward and i am sure he would be devastated if we lost our super league status. JD speaks without the political speal and from his heart but you cant question he wants the best for our club.
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Didn't realise the council were building any nevermind 2....
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| council are funding the land, and as they have said they wont fund two sites. Jd didn't say we should move to glasshoughton just that if we were pushed to we should take it.
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| Quote ="not again"council are funding the land, and as they have said they wont fund two sites. Jd didn't say we should move to glasshoughton just that if we were pushed to we should take it.
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The council are providing two plots of so the clubs could raise capital against them, that remains the case but they want to use both plots to fund one stadium, hence the 'review'.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Quite shocked at some of Jason's answers there to be honest...
How can our current captain, club stalwart and legend in many people's eyes be so far out of touch with the views of the clubs fans?
Sorry Jason, you're so wrong on this one it's untrue!'"
made me cringe too
for the ten years he was been over in England I would of thought he would of learned about the passion of rival supporters,
I cas buddy of mine says he would rather have his eyes spooned out than follow wakey that is his passion for his club
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| I'll probably regret saying this but if the RFL had a turnaround I'd prefer to play at Gl*sshoughton/Newmarket over Belle Vue owing to me detesting our ground so much.
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| Quote ="not again"I understand were Jd is comng from, it was unrealistic to think the council would build two stadiums and in his veiws the discussions about possible ground share should have been discussed as a plan b as time is not on our side. He stated that this club has a great history and wants to watch the club doing well at the highest level in years to come and if that means ground share then so be it. If you support the club whole heartedly then if they share a ground 10mins away from were you want it, should not be a problem and i agree. JD loves this club and wants it to move forward he has put seven years of hard work to help the club go forward and i am sure he would be devastated if we lost our super league status. JD speaks without the political speal and from his heart but you cant question he wants the best for our club.
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I am sure JD thinks he has the clubs best interests at heart...
7 years is a long time to be at the club and he has proven his loyaly and fans favoutite status.
However I TOTALLY disagree with him...!!
I have [ionly [/ibeen following the club for about 42 years (from my frist visit to Belle Vue which - although I was very young - was sometime around the Watersplash final)... I have held season tickets for longer than JD has been playing the game... I have done bits and pieces of sponsorship, as my funds have allowed.
I find this political jerry-mongering an abhorration!
Wakefield Trinity belong in the City of Wakefield, it is an institution, a bedrock of the community... TBH I was dissappointed with the newmarket option... its too far out of the city centre... (had Trinity played there when I was a kid I probably wouldn't have become a fan!) but it was going to be ours... and that I could support... anything else is not an option in my mind!
No to taking Trinity away from the City...
No to merger...
and now I find myself in the camp of...
No to sharing a ground...
And a BIG FAT no to the manipulative Mr Box.... I hope your insidious plans blow up in your face!
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| Worries me that the club knew for sometime. Is this the delay in planning?
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| The common sense approach in me says Glasshoughton everything is in place like train station road links and next to a great big visitor attraction which in its self would attract more fans to the games,But ideally i would love to see our own ground at newmarket,it would have been nice if York Court owned the land down denby dale road and needed the planning permission,has i think all outsiders to both clubs just see it as 1 junction down on a motorway so should be no problem to share where as the other side of the city they'd have different ideas.
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| It's alright for Captain Marvel he can bugger off at the end of the season and take his unwanted opinions with him it's not gonna affect him anyway.
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| Quote ="Walrus"Worries me that the club knew for sometime. Is this the delay in planning?'"
Yes they have known about the council wanting both clubs to share a ground, but that’s all the discussions were about, not specifically which site. After all the Newmarket option has always been a ground open for anyone to play at where as Glasshoughton has only been receptive to the idea after the realisation that there is not enough money to construct it.
The planning was put back on the request of the council on the premise that it had something to do with highways, which was news to Yorkcourt, who were expecting a decision last Friday.
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| I too think Jason is wide of the mark on this one.
Like many on here and many more who aren’t, I've paid due's to Wakefield Trinity over the past 40 odd years that dwarf that of JD and so I find it a little patronising for him to preach loyalty, dedication and sacrifice.
I welcome much of what JD represents and his contribution to the club has been a positive one, he's gone above and beyond the duties his player contract would demand of him. I think, on this subject, he's singing in a different church let alone hymn sheet, if his views are representative or influenced by the of prevailing view at the club then they're in dire need of a wakeup call from the fans.
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| I suppose he's playing politics. JD knows that Peter Box's Sunday affiliation is going to determine the whole district's financial and sports planning, and so he knows that Glasshoughton will get the nod over Newmarket, just because of one man's self-interest. If that is the reality, then what is JD supposed to say: don't go, don't play there, don't go watch us there? He has to try and build support for an eventuality, because one of two things will happen if we go to Glasshoughton: we will either survive or we won't. Is building support so we can survive with that reality such a bad thing?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I suppose he's playing politics. JD knows that Peter Box's Sunday affiliation is going to determine the whole district's financial and sports planning, and so he knows that Glasshoughton will get the nod over Newmarket, just because of one man's self-interest. If that is the reality, then what is JD supposed to say: don't go, don't play there, don't go watch us there? He has to try and build support for an eventuality, because one of two things will happen if we go to Glasshoughton: we will either survive or we won't. Is building support so we can survive with that reality such a bad thing?'"
We can either be constuctive about it and try and look at the possibilities or as you say take our bats and balls home and get used to the idea of not supporting a SL side. For me, we will just have to make the best of the hand which we've been dealt.
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| Quote ="underground"I am sure JD thinks he has the clubs best interests at heart...
7 years is a long time to be at the club and he has proven his loyaly and fans favoutite status.
However I TOTALLY disagree with him...!!
I have [ionly [/ibeen following the club for about 42 years (from my frist visit to Belle Vue which - although I was very young - was sometime around the Watersplash final)... I have held season tickets for longer than JD has been playing the game... I have done bits and pieces of sponsorship, as my funds have allowed.
I find this political jerry-mongering an abhorration!
Wakefield Trinity belong in the City of Wakefield, it is an institution, a bedrock of the community... TBH I was dissappointed with the newmarket option... its too far out of the city centre... (had Trinity played there when I was a kid I probably wouldn't have become a fan!) but it was going to be ours... and that I could support... anything else is not an option in my mind!
No to taking Trinity away from the City...
No to merger...
and now I find myself in the camp of...
No to sharing a ground...
And a BIG FAT no to the manipulative Mr Box.... I hope your insidious plans blow up in your face!'"
How is years of mismanagement at Wakey (and Cas) the fault of cllr Box ???
If the people in charge of both clubs had done as they should have instead of waiting for some faiygodmother to come along and make everything ok we both would have been in new grounds years ago. Box will make his decision and it looks like it will be GH, logical because of the work already done , but i can empathise with your concerns.
What both clubs need is a cast iron guarantee that this is a temporary measure and the other (whichever) site will be completed later, other than that we should tell them and the RFL to feck off and stay where we are, and let battle recommence whichever league we find ourselves in.
After the intensity of yesterday, it should have shown the loonies at red hall that you just cannot invent rivalry like that, imagine Toulouse v quins. 1500 attendance and as quiet as the grave, even a blind man could see that for fact
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| IMO the RFL are underestimating the negative impact that the loss of either Wakefield or Castleford to the game (not just SL) would have.
They seem to mistakenly believe that if Cas and or Wakey were to cease existence that Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield etc would offer a route to professional RL for the districts talented players.
Maybe for a while they would but without the two clubs to inspire them and without the community work that’s done by both clubs, the sporting youth of the WMDC would soon switch their aspirations to other sports. You can't underestimate the effect that seeing his hero at school has on a young kid of 6 or 7 years of age, it inspires them to play the game like their hero and that’s often where the initial urge to pick up a rugby ball and lace on a boot comes from.
When/if a club is lost the WMDC an area which is arguably the most productive in the sport will be also be lost to the game.
I’ve never been against expansion and I'll stand accused of changing my views only because of the threat hanging over Wakefield Trinity, but while the influence of franchising grows so too does my opposition to it.
It matters not whether its Cas or Wakey that get the chop franchising is proving to be a negative force in the game and I am now firmly in the corner of traditional promotion and relegation.
If we are truly going to reduce the number of non Fed trained players to 3 over the next few years then the main arguments for franchising are rendered irrelevant.
I'm very very quickly becoming disillusioned with Rugby League and can see a day when I walk away from all aspects of the sport, now that’s something that I thought I could never even consider and anyone who now me would be shocked to hear that.
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