www.wakefield.gov.uk/Pages/News/PR8684.aspx remarkable statement!

www.wakefield.gov.uk/Pages/News/PR8684.aspx remarkable statement!

We need to release a statement and soon, the more the council communicate the better they look and worse we look. This statement makes it sound like we are totally in the wrong and while I'm inclined to not believe them...why would someone who doesn't support us think anything other than we're being awkward?

Didn't see that one coming but it's still meaningless drivel. So you build a stadium on the site of an existing stadium but without a club to play in it, not even the one whose played in it for the last 100 year - utterly ludicrous.

Is it 1st April ??
How could anyone justify building a RL ground without having someone to play there and who will pay the rent ?
Quite bizarre, unless they are certain that Trinity will come begging or, that a certain someone is trying to oust MC & CB

WMDC confirm they are bonkers.

So I've hear M.C. likes a game of poker, well it appears Hussain has raised the stakes with -

=#0000FF“My greatest concern is for the fans, as the club have put no agreement in place and fans are paying out their hard earned money for games that we cannot facilitate at Belle Vue – unless the club make these necessary arrangements.”

Interesting times.

It’s actually a very clever move. Without us the stadium doesn’t need to be as ‘grandiose’ ( I use that term lightly) and as such they can get away with a smaller, less costly build and/or other MUGA pitches and facilities, depending on which other clubs show an interest. It covers their obligation for some community facilities and they can say the offer was there for us and we turned it down so downscaling is the right thing to do. At the same time it makes us seem like the sponging bad guys and the council the heroes trying to help. They’ve even got the Daily Star guy reporting it who had previously been on our side. This could be the killer move.

Their not though that's the problem. What they are doing is creating layers after layer of issues that cannot be quickly resolved.

It's an old tactic, it's attritional warfare. They want us to get bogged down in negotiation that will never be resolved in the hope we either go bust or go away.

We need to cut to the chase now and take direct legal action against the source WMDC and York Court. Forget about BV and concentrate in the incompetent, illegal and corrupt non delivery of NM and associated facilities. THIS IS WHERE THE LEGAL MEAT IS - THIS IS WHERE THE OBLIGATION TO THE TAX PAYER WAS AND STILL IS.

We can't force them to re-vamp BV and they know it - we may be able to force them to build NM and they are scared stiff of that.

Nah, be patient.

Except there is that old chestnut of that trigger point that with or without the white montrosity hasn't been reached. They made be morally off the scale but legally they haven't broken the law yet until they build beyond that 60,000 SQM point, which isn't going to happen until that part of your post where we go bust and no longer require it takes place. They've got us by the short & curlies and they know it.

If they can build a stadium 'just like that' then why did they not do it years ago instead of giving us the "nothing to do with us guv" line ?

Different owners, they'd have had to shell out to buy it. Now if only the club/trust had bought it when it was there for the taking instead of 88M instead of receiving bad advice......

It’s obvious, WT talk legal action, box and co say we can build you a stadium unfortunately that could bankrupt the club so you will never agree to playing there... but hey that’s not our fault is it??
Box and co off the hook, no stadium, no money spent, everyone’s a winner, yes??

What a load of tosh. None of this stacks up at all. Do they honestly think Yorkcourt are going to pay one penny towards it with their track record. The only way Yorkcourt can be tempted to get involved if they get more planning at Newmarket, then Bingo!! we can go at them once they make that move.
Are 88G going to pay, are they hell.
The council have said they are skint. If they have now found the money to pay for a stadium, why build it on someone elses land ?
They have loads of land of their own which is far better suited and located than trying to make something out of the Belle Vue dump.

The only post for me who really could have something is the one that mentions this may not be what you think. A new stadium could be nothing more than a white fence around a pitch with a couple of bus shelters on the touch line.

One other thing to contemplate. Seems like 88G want MC to sign up to another lease, what happens if he does, how much compensation will they have to pay to turf us off Belle Vue to build a new stadium.

What's happened to the council leader, last weeks statement was by Andy Wallhead , now this weeks is by Denise Jeffery. I don't trust them .

There will be a statement from the Club and Trust when we are ready but remember the earlier Club statement regarding taking legal advice which is happening and will shape what we do next.

Just remember to beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

If the lease is only for 12 months then nothing.

Is no one seeing what I'm seeing?

The statement talks about a community stadium "in the district", not "in the city". There is talk of wanting to build one for Trinity but as we won't agree their terms, they're going to build one anyway, but "in the district". Nowhere does it say that it will be at either Newmarket or Belle Vue.

Isn't the Cas stadium faltering slightly? Isn't this the Cas fans on Wakefield Council deciding to build Cas a stadium?

Personally the fact that 88m are involved and own the ground and Hussein is the one giving an actual quote makes me think it's Belle Vue.

I think they're trying to get the fans to turn on MC personally.

Especially when they say


You know some fans will be asking well how much is this rent they're asking for Trinity to to walk away from that offer and potentially have no club. I know there's a bigger picture to all this, but others don't and some others don't care, they just want to get this finally sorted and not have it constantly in the back ground.

And all the while we get involved in a war of words, nothing is built. WMDC provide the much-vaunted community stadium elsewhere, leaving Manni to build his houses on Belle Vue.

I know there are people on here who know whether what is being said is true, but if it is a community stadium, surely we'd only have a right to the income from match-days? The rest of the time is it for the community?

Or is it: low-rent tenants but match-day income only versus commercial rent and all income?

The devil is in the detail, I guess, but even I'm wondering what is so unreasonable in the Council's proposal. What will the non-fan think? Propaganda battle well and truly won by WMDC.

Is the Trojan Horse reference deliberate, or just a turn of phrase?

The one thing I would say, being a lawyer, is that most cases start out with an intended and desired outcome. At the last minute, compromises are usually reached. The frustrating thing is always when the compromise reached could have been reached at the outset.

This statement has been put out for those widespread members of the community who will think how good WMDC are and how bad that nasty MC and the Stadium Trust are. Uuurgghh!! nasty men. Anyone who believes this load of bunkem from Jeffries is very,very gullible.

Why is there a picture of Joyce Temple-Savage on the WMDC web statement?

Doesn't read well for the club - We need a statement from the club in the interim while they seek legal advice. Mainly for the citizens of wakefield, who will pick up a copy of the express on Friday with no doubt a front page cover of the news to push on with the stadium with us.

One thing I will say, as messy as it is, at least after 15 years of getting a new ground it's coming to a head. Decisions are being made and it's exciting times ahead.

Up the Trin!!