I liked how our back three work the ball up field under Agar but I feel Lynn is going to struggle to replace Cockayne in that area.
Of course catching and running at speed are good qualities to add to I'm not saying he is a no hoper.
I'd like us to get a new outside back anyway for cover but a muscled up type like Blanche or Tadulala who can take a high ball and drive away would be my preferred.
I'd give up speed for muscle (within reason)

I agree with cover for the wing (and fullback) my concern was the other wing. Too many times last season we got caught out with a simple one on one kick to the corner. Fox is a confidence player and by the end of the season he looked like he had none left. Hope this was just end of the season fatigue.

I know what you are saying. It will be interesting to see how Fox goes this season.

Is Walshaw too slow for the wing? He'd take the ball up strongly and wouldn't have difficulty with the high ball...

Yes

Ok fair enough.



What about trying to get Menzie Yere, Will Sharp or Miles Greenwood for wing?

All from championship and take some tackling plus can score tries? Appreciate it'll come down to costs etc though that we can't afford an unproven player from lower leagues financially.

Mathers
Fox
Collis
Smith
Lynn
Sykes
A.N.Other

Is Walshaw the only cover we have if a back gets injured??

Don't think Walshaw is cover for the backs, played wing once and that was at against Hemel.

We need to be fishing for lower league players like this for a wing spot for competition with Lynne and Fox (and full back cover) who are reaching their peak and would like another go at Super League probably?.... www.thepressnews.co.uk/sportsnew ... an-season/

We need to be fishing for lower league players like this for a wing spot for competition with Lynne and Fox (and full back cover) who are reaching their peak and would like another go at Super League probably?.... www.thepressnews.co.uk/sportsnew ... an-season/

Think Will Sharp is on the radar

I was given to understand that we had Will Sharp sorted, before the RFL stepped in to save Mr Glover from himself; that one may resurface now that things are a bit steadier?

Just viewed 8 min highlights of Sharp on U Tube.
Looks quick , elusive,runs well out of defence and seems pretty assured under high ball.
Probably do good job for us.

Agar more than most knows a Will Sharp and what he is capable of... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Sharp Hull coach Richard Agar went on to say. "He is a talented, young and ambitious player. ...... He has the ability to carry the ball well and has strength and speed which will be great assets for us next season and I don't think it will be long before he establishes himself as a crowd favourite."..... ........In April 2013 Will signed for ambitious Championship club Featherstone Rovers. He signed a 6-month deal......Then Rovers coach Daryl Powell compared him to former rugby league and rugby union superstar Jason Robinson. Sharp appeared to make an immediate impact with the fans due to his fearless and committed style of play. This earned him the nickname 'Sugar Ray'. Maybe Will Sharp wrote the above himself? Admittedly he looks good on video footage of some of his games. Worth a punt IMHO hopefully this will be another announcement in the next week or so. We'll then have Sharp, Lynne and Fox to compete for 2 wing positions.

Agar more than most knows a Will Sharp and what he is capable of... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Sharp Hull coach Richard Agar went on to say. "He is a talented, young and ambitious player. ...... He has the ability to carry the ball well and has strength and speed which will be great assets for us next season and I don't think it will be long before he establishes himself as a crowd favourite."..... ........In April 2013 Will signed for ambitious Championship club Featherstone Rovers. He signed a 6-month deal......Then Rovers coach Daryl Powell compared him to former rugby league and rugby union superstar Jason Robinson. Sharp appeared to make an immediate impact with the fans due to his fearless and committed style of play. This earned him the nickname 'Sugar Ray'. Maybe Will Sharp wrote the above himself? Admittedly he looks good on video footage of some of his games. Worth a punt IMHO hopefully this will be another announcement in the next week or so. We'll then have Sharp, Lynne and Fox to compete for 2 wing positions.

Seems to be a strong rumour that Will Sharpe is on RFAs radar . (being ex Hull I suppose he would be) having seen him a few time this season at Featherstone I don’t think he would be a bad option , as he plays a similar game to Charlie . but I have the same question as I asked MC at the last forum . WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR OWN .No Danny Cowling an outside back No Liam Kay( all though originally at Bradford) and STILL no news on another   who accepted the offer put to him the week after the CAS game .

Did Kaye accept the offer a week after the Cas game?
I thought he knocked it back?

As a point of interest, I was having a coffee outside the ridings shop on Saturday and they were replaying the Cas game. I finished up watching most of it and I was reminded how really well Liam Kay played. Makes you wonder who
is out there that would be better value for money.

I couldn't agree more, I've always rated him and I find him a genuinely exciting player.

However many things about the Liam non signing annoy me.

At the end of the day the deal we offered may have been less than for example Leigh but it's still a chance to play in SL.
When you consider Jason Demetriou packed his bags up and moved over here to try his luck with Chorley as have a long line of Aussies it makes you wonder whether Liam has the ticker and the desire.

If RL for him is just a job then fine but is that the kind of player we want? Where is the desire to prove yourself which is what is needed at the top level.

I just don't get it, years as a fringe player then a guaranteed squad place beckons on the back of just one good performance and he legs it to almost certain Championship obscurity.

Why not take the crappy 1 year deal we are offering, back yourself and play as well in your next 10 games and you can name your price. That's how it used to work, one game was never enough to guarantee you a big pay day and on this I fully agree with Agar. You can't hand out big deals on one SL game.

With Kay I'm genuinely disappointed because I feel he's not got the ambition and guts to match what I feel is his genuine ability. I know some will criticise me but he is typical of many young English players and their greedy agents.

Very sad as we are both losers.

Absolutely bang on the money Vasty!........for once!

Has Kay actually gone/signed for Leigh? I've yet to see anything confirming other than he's rejected a contract offer. With respect to his contract, had he been offered an extention prior to his late season exploits Trinity would've got better value out of the kid. By leaving it till after they put themselves in a weaker negotiating position. I still think he'd prove to be better VFM than anyone who comes in, even accounting for the rumoured 4x pay request.

It all stems from being more interested in throwing stupid contracts at Mellars and Poore and ignoring our own.

Vasty may not be far wrong but its all about how players are treated at a club.

If Liam does move to the Championship, it's very unlikely to be for (much more) money - unless he was on peanuts at Trinity. Ryan Brierley, for example, was on a ridiculous wage at Cas - when he moved to Leigh. Alright, Ryan wasn't yet first team material at Cas, but it was actually costing the kid money, to train/play for a SL club.

A number of SL 'fringe' players (e.g. Jamie Ellis) have chosen to drop down to the Championship, to get regular first team game time, and then return to SL, as better players. Maybe that's what Liam could have in mind? Or maybe he just hasn't felt valued, where he is?

Mind you, he may also think that 'dropping down' to a Championship club, may offer him better SL prospects than staying put!!



Only joking - here's hoping you guys have a good season and prove the 'experts' wrong - once again!

Thanks Alan

Will Sharp would be a decent signing, Always impressed me.

Wonder if Luke George ever really made it to Bradford? Would have him here in a heartbeat - I think hes exacly what we need.

It is as ever a mixture of both - I should have made it clear I am not defending the way clubs treat young players. That said the Aussie clubs will be the same there not that perfect but it is in the nature of the Aussie to stick to fingers up at their club and prove them wrong elsewhere. I'd like to see that fight in English players and I'd love Kay to do just that even if it inevitably meant him getting his payday at a bigger club.

There have been many positives regarding SL and the Academy system - however this idea you are owed a chance is a poor one. No one is owed a first team game at their parent club unless they are good enough, and one good game should never entitle you to a 4 x contract - hell even Henry Paul didn't get that after one game.

Remember the days of A.N.Other and the start of season trialist when players would stake everything on o few games - many a player went onto stardom for that. Liam is being offered a far easier route imho than that - take it lad or you will regret it one day and I think that's really sad.

I don't know any of the contract details of course so am not knocking the guy purely on that as you still have to eat, but as said by others, Vasty is on the money for me.

I read Kris Radlinski's book and he says in his youth team a couple of players were picked out for professional contracts when he was not. He was asked if he wanted to train with Wigan but without the professional contract (think there was youth terms but not a lot of money)
It meant he was still living at home when his mates were getting places and looking like the next big thing.
He decided to do it and train hard. He describes doing extras when the pros gave up and when his mates went on holiday he didn't go.

The guys who got the pro forms never made it at any level, but he made it happen for himself.
I guess that mindset isn't for everyone and you have to have confidence in your abilities but I see Kay as being in a very similar position.
He has a choice to make.