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| ....Man of The Match....Discuss anyone?
I won't single him out as the only one to blame as there were several shocking and brainless performances today; Tim Smith needs to go and have a think about some of his decisions, for one. And maybe some of the forwards might want to think about why Fox and Cockayne seem to need to take us forward all the time. But I'm afraid I have to say that Aiton's play is so unidimensional it's dismal. Apart from one surging run in the first 3 minutes, he barely took the ball forward at all. He simply follows the play and offloads from acting half and does zip all else for me. I think it is a big reason we look like we find it so hard to break the line. Obst used to have defences guessing all the time; they used to brick it whenever he got the ball as you didn't know what was coming. Aiton, I'm afraid, is just a stock player. at least from the majority of games I've seen him in. He does not impress me. I think sides have worked out it's all about Smith with us and he is never gonna get much ball in broken play with an acting half that never takes on or breaks the line.
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| He's predicatble and he's not the only one, its easy to defend plays when you know whats coming.
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| I think he is very good behind a quick PTB , but that never happened today.
On the downside his passes from dummy half were far too laboured today, meaning our kicking game was rubbish. The defenders were in smiths face before the ball had arrived!
I would have gone for Wilkes or anakin for MOM
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| His defence is outstanding, but agree that he is quite one dimensional attack, I think if he had both he wouldn't be playing at wakey or even super league. Annakin MOM for me
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"I think he is very good behind a quick PTB , but that never happened today.
On the downside his passes from dummy half were far too laboured today, meaning our kicking game was rubbish. The defenders were in smiths face before the ball had arrived!
I would have gone for Wilkes or anakin for MOM'"
agree, wilkes and annakin were stand out performers today. Aiton in my eyes is a good player but at the end of the day the majority of the team underperformed and every team has those days...
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| Paul Aiton, super player but missing 'off the cuff' play around the play of the ball. Probably going to get shot down for this as an old topic but the team is missing Andy Ellis. Kyle Wood is a good player but Ellis gives more prolonged consistancy as a natural hooker. Wouldn't criticise Tim Smith too much today, he tried but players around him not running the lines for him. A bit like the start of last year.
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| Amazing that Wilkes get the seal of approval from some all I saw apart from 1 run was 5 yards and down he went.As for Aiton outstanding in the tackle but could be better going forward.
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| I thought Wilkes was poor in the first half but improved in the second. Charlie was MOM for me, he had a spark about him that the majority lacked.
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| Is wood injured? if not i can't see what lee smith brings to the game from the bench.
Means Aiton spending much longer on the field and not being as fresh as when he is spelled.
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| Quote ="18th Man"I thought Wilkes was poor in the first half but improved in the second. Charlie was MOM for me, he had a spark about him that the majority lacked.'"
Cockayne always has good games, Foxy did too.. I thought Wilkes' performances were satisfactory but today he had a good game.
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| Thought Aiton had headless chicken mode on a few too many times today and capped an awful performance with his miss on Hernia. God knows how he got mom.
Is there a slower winger in Super League than Cockayne!
Tim Smith and his extraordinary 5hite passes, sums up today.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Thought Aiton had headless chicken mode on a few too many times today and capped an awful performance with his miss on Hernia. God knows how he got mom.
Is there a slower winger in Super League than Cockayne!
Tim Smith and his extraordinary 5hite passes, sums up today.'"
Tim Smith and his extraordinary 5hite passes, sums up today, that made me chuckle
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| Wilkes one run ? You must have funny eyesight ! Annekin and Wilkes both played well , Annekin shaded it for mom
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| Think Aiton got it as he never stopped moving. Sadly though there was very little else constructive about his performance and his dummy half distribution is poor. Ben Cockayne would probably have got mine though Wilkes was decent, Annakin also.
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| Wilkes one run ? I said apart from one run so who has funny eyesight.Apart from the that one run it was 5 yards and down.Annakin has been good since getting his chance but for me mom should have been Cockayne always gives 100%
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| We didn't look like a team today for some reason for the first time in a long time and that concerns me. One up rugby easy to defend, no speed at the play the ball, too many brainfarts, too many players off colour, not fit? Tired? Who knows why? We are certainly consistently inconsistent and until we develop a killer instinct especially at home then we're gonna lose a lot of close games. Already that's Hudds, Salford and Hull thrown away and all were there for the taking. I really thought we were gonna push on this year after our end of season 7 match run. Time will tell I suppose but I have only seen it in flashes so far. Mom today ? Nobody really stood out, Kirmond, Annakin and Cockayne probably best of an off colour bunch and maybe Wilkes next. They don't half frustrate the hell out of you, one minute you're back in the game, the next they've shot themselves in the foot again with the craziest of decision making. Ah well it's only Wigan next week.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Is wood injured? if not i can't see what lee smith brings to the game from the bench.
Means Aiton spending much longer on the field and not being as fresh as when he is spelled.'"
I can't see what Lee Smith has to do to get a starting place. Would be in my starting 13 every week.
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| Annakin MoM by a mile yesterday for me.
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| Sadly, I suppose it sums up our current standing when the majority of MOM suggestions are players who appear to run like a train centre field into three tacklers but rarely burst through any defensive line (Aiton, Cockayne, Annakin, Wilkes). I actually think Kirmond did enough in his short spell to earn MOM. That's how bad we were!
I was very surprised that Lyne didn't make a better effort to prove to the Hull fans that they'd lost an assett.
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| The team is missing Ellis. Thought it would when he was let go and nothing i have seen this season has changed my mind.
The crazy passes from Smith were probably as a result of a lack of runners. Don't think I saw one dummy runner yesterday.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The team is missing Ellis. Thought it would when he was let go and nothing i have seen this season has changed my mind.
The crazy passes from Smith were probably as a result of a lack of runners. Don't think I saw one dummy runner yesterday.'"
No but there was a fair few dummies running.
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| Well it appears that Fox is now off the hook and Aiton seems to be the new scapegoat, on the plus side what's the chances of getting Obst back along with Solomona and dare I say Dale Ferguson plus anybody else that springs to mind.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I can't see what Lee Smith has to do to get a starting place. Would be in my starting 13 every week.'"
Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I was very surprised that Lyne didn't make a better effort to prove to the Hull fans that they'd lost an assett.'"
I thought Lyne was a little disappointing yesterday and actually thought we should have changed things round early in the 2nd half and replaced him with Lee Smith.
Smith needs to come back into the starting line-up for me, he offers a lot more than Lyne at this moment in time. Not having a go at Lyne who started the season well but has not got back to that standard since he missed a couple of games injured.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I thought Lyne was a little disappointing yesterday and actually thought we should have changed things round early in the 2nd half and replaced him with Lee Smith.
Smith needs to come back into the starting line-up for me, he offers a lot more than Lyne at this moment in time. Not having a go at Lyne who started the season well but has not got back to that standard since he missed a couple of games injured.'"
Perhaps Lyne was chosen over Smith in the belief that he may want to show Hull what they had let go? Anyway it backfired, not that he was that bad, just that Smith is way in front of him in my book in ability and experience. I would definitely start with Smith frfom now on.
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| the end of last season we finished off strong,without aiton,this season he comes back and the team take a step backwards,is it a coincidence
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