Lulia get him signed we need a centre a.s.a.p mellers is a total plank of wooding joke ! Cockyne makes stuff hapoen the dulls will be in admin this week MARK MY WORDS AS I AM ALLWAYS CORRECT SIGN LULIA UP class act ! We need a centre quick time. He will do us for 3 years.

Rather look at ainscough for a wing spot and cockayne to move to full back tbh.

Wouldn't take many from bulls on todays showing but ainscough and maybe elima could add to the team.

I have yet to see what Mellars brings to this team, don't like picking any one player out but can someone tell me why he gets picked.

NGBC please remember that Mellars is not a quota player and Lulia would be. What I would be tempted to do is if Southern has done himself in for rest of season and he's wanting away end of season I would be tempted to de-register him leaving a cap space.

Im sure he played most of his rugby at crusaders on the wing, a la Pat Richards styleee!
I'd be tempted to try this option before binning a quota player on a three year contract, who is perhaps just played out of position.

Never mentioned binning Mellars as he could be a squad player. However recent turn of events at Bulls we should looking at options like this as a lot of Talent could become available at short notice. Would be tempted to use Mellars as a winger and have Cockayne as a full back.

Mellars is a winger not a centre, he scored for fun playing on the wing at Crusader's, its hardly his fault he's asked to play in the centre, but that won't stop the OP spouting his usual bilge about players' that does not fit into his personal thoughts' on how the game should be played.

That's quite an over statement there

I don't buy into the idea that Bradford players will be available in a massive free-for-all; the man steering that particular ship is a solicitor and will understand perfectly well how best to manage administration in such a way that he safeguards the players he wants to keep and offloads the ones he doesn't.

If they've had the green light from the RFL to do the newco shuffle, he's hardly going to allow them to emerge with a squad of players that will make them next season's Widnes; it's important to remember that our players were sold by the administrator to cover his own fees - that won't happen at Bradford.

Caisley won't be "manageing" the administration, the Administrator will - his job is to get the best deal for the creditors. If he wants to sell players, he will.

No player will have to stay with the Newco.

I understand your sentiments Bren, but this guy will still want his costs and although Administrators all have their own way of doing things and they will usually try and "help" the new owners, they still have certain obligations to fulfil and if there are "assets that can be used to pay certain debts and in this case the only assets that they have are the players.
Equally, as with the Glasgow Rangers situation, some players may not wish to stay with the new club and I think that in the circumstances, they will become free agents ?

The administrator is appointed by the creditors and his job is to ensure they are paid as much as possible after his own fee is paid. If he can realise value by selling players he will.

I understand the technicalities of it and I know what is *meant* to happen - the point I'm trying to make is that Mr Caisley is a slippery customer and I can't see him being powerless in all this.

Now - watch Bradford go into admin tomorrow and their players disperse all over SL in a puff of smoke - if you're going to be proved wrong, may aswell go the whole hog!

I'm with you on this





Errrrm not necessarily, an administrator can be appointed without petitioning the court by the holder of a floating charge or by the company or by its directors. Other creditors must petition the court to appoint an administrator


I think out of those options Mr Caisley has quite a bit of influence over all except the creditors option, which costs the creditors to instigate, only a "Large" creditor is likely to do that and I am making the presumption that the largest Bulls creditor will be HMRC, but if a deal is made in a "Pre-pack" (which is what I have thought has been happening since the start) then HMRC will stand back

Not as simple as that I'm afraid, there are good reasons to do it and good reasons not to.

Well if Bradford do have to sell players i'd like us to sign elima and sykes permanently given what we got for players last year £10,000 should do it



on a more serious note i hope we could complete some signings for next season in the coming weeks as our friends darn lane have done this morning

Technically you may be correct, however I was under the impression that any deal would be subject to creditor approval? If the creditors could achieve 50p in the pound by liquidating assets (selling players) vs an offer of 30p accepting pr epack option then they would wind up? If they are to retain their playing staff does that not hinge on someone stumping up enough cash to satisfy creditors that it is in their best interests to accept the deal? Given the numbers bandied around its going to take a large cash injection to satisfy creditors such that assets do not need to be sold and fund the business until its cash positive? In the bulls case this would be hefty I would have thought. When we were in this situation it was open season with regard to our players what's different here? Not trying to be argumentative - genuinely interested.

is this rl fans forum or harvard business school?

I don't feel particularly threatened by the moves that Cas have made in the player market to be honest; Webster is good but made of biscuits, Gilmour is past it and Shenton has been anonymous at Saints. Meanwhile, the new King of Cas has gone on strike and their young starlet wants out.

I would hope that any signings we do make show a bit more ambition - there's plenty of time yet.

News on the bulls situation expected within the hour, i suspect it will be admin.

A few tweets being reported: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=529680&tsmp=1340703363&start=440

A few tweets being reported: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=529680&tsmp=1340703363&start=440

BBC says they have gone in to admin and have 10 days to save club from liquidation. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18554519

BBC says they have gone in to admin and have 10 days to save club from liquidation. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18554519

The difference is that the BOD have asked for admin to protect the club from HMRC, following recommendation from the "Independent financial review"
It’s rare that a creditor would get anything like 50p or 30p in the pound in Wakefield’s case Andrew Glover offered to pay some of the "Local" creditors a substantial rate in order to satisfy the administrators that he was a "Good Bet"
Also I suspect (as I have all along) that the Bradford situation will be resolved by a pre-packed agreement and all will be sorted within the 10 day winding up notice, which from memory was only sorted at the 11th hour with Wakey/glover

Thanks for the clarification. Unless money is no object though surely their wage bill will have to be slashed in order to fund future losses? Can't see how they can survive and keep hold of their most talented players.

Get him signed now this guy is good enough for a quota spot. Bloody John is a quota spot lol. Mellars is a average squad player at best LULIA and COckyne this would be irresistable both players make things happen. We are a club going places now Mellars is a passenger Lulia is the REAL DEAL !