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| so you're the england boss...
youve just watched an awsome game of RL
now you have to plot their downfalls...
your thoughts....
mine are simple! its a bl**dy tough ask !!!!
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| I'd say more like d**m near impossible
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| try and try to stop them
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| Quote ="mwildcats"we dont.'"
a very honest approach
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| The two things we must do to even compete is to match them in the forwards and ensure we have a very good tactical kicking game to keep both sides pinned back.
Unfortunately i don't think we have players within the squad who are can control the game with the boot to keep us in the game
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| two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B
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| New Zealand showed a blitz defense to be proud of, they was in their faces from the start, I would start with our toughest and roughest pack we can muster peacock, Morley, westwood, Ellis,
bring on our strongest even if its Sykes and put our faces in the Aussies from the start,
I would rather we went down fighting than trying out play them on the wings, speed from the line shut down their fast passing where was Lockyer tonight ?
even slater was papping him self and was always looking to release the ball
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| Quote ="LewHart"two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B'" dogs
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| I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!'" that opens up another option by playing them in the , we need speed from the start but with strength in the tackle guile would come through Eastmond and Tomkins both young but willing to be given the chance McGuire might even be a steady ship for them
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!'"
I can see the argument for going with that, but the mobility of the aussie back line I could Westwood extra size might make it harder to impose himself. I can see why Smith thinks Smith is a possible solution, but its clutching at straws.
The main problem is still the halves, our defence is going to get no respite with the lack of kicking game and anonymity in organisation that was shown against the French. Here's hoping Broughy got a call, but I can't see it.
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| Quote ="LewHart"two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B'"
Don't Botherturningup ?
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| Just take their heads off
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| Select more Warrington players?
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| Quote ="LewHart"two words...the first word starts with D and the second starts with B'"
As much as I like DB he'd be way out of his depth unfortunately. He'd be eaten alive by the Aussies and Kiwis.
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| Nuke anything south of Birmingham?
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| Quote ="charlie"Just take their heads off'"
Agreed. Can't run without their heads.
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| To be honest i do not think physically they are that far ahead, but mentally they are miles ahead, they are more comitted, more pasionate, more intimidating, more confident, prouder and more aggresive........England simply as they have for the last 20 years look apathetic, this mentality will take years to correct not a few short weeks in short.........we are going to need a bigger boat!
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| Quote ="jonh"To be honest i do not think physically they are that far ahead, but mentally they are miles ahead, they are more comitted, more pasionate, more intimidating, more confident, prouder and more aggresive........England simply as they have for the last 20 years look apathetic, this mentality will take years to correct not a few short weeks in short.........we are going to need a bigger boat!'" the forwards are simalar in development the backs are on a different planet
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the forwards are simalar in development the backs are on a different planet'"
they actually have backs! we have forwards playing in lower numbered shirts!
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'm wondering whether playing Westwood or even Ellis in the centre's maybe worthwhile. Like you say we have to impose ourselves and rattle a couple of cages like Newton use to do!'"
See my post on VT for team to face the aussies
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| We can match them in the forwards and so we have to turn it into an arm wrestle and somehow stifle the half-backs. If it goes wide, we are goosed. The problem we have is that we will play a patient game, which will play into their hands. The New Zealand was desperate stuff from the start, and it created enough chaos to put off the Aussies. We will play it steadier and they will just pick us apart.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"We can match them in the forwards and so we have to turn it into an arm wrestle and somehow stifle the half-backs. If it goes wide, we are goosed. The problem we have is that we will play a patient game, which will play into their hands. The New Zealand was desperate stuff from the start, and it created enough chaos to put off the Aussies. We will play it steadier and they will just pick us apart.'" you mean were going to play like sl and bore them to death
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"you mean were going to play like sl and bore them to death'"
top plan!
we play sl play off type rugby, and as they enevitably fall asleep we very quietly tip toe to their line.
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