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| Few silly errors im affraid to say from Kyle and JK has said " one of our young lads made an error but you have to learn."
Or was that more Murphy beaten to the high ball?
Are we taking it Bibbs going to be dropped? Maybe a time for Frankie to step up?
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| Quote ="BenchWarmer"Few silly errors im affraid to say from Kyle and JK has said " one of our young lads made an error but you have to learn."
Or was that more Murphy beaten to the high ball?
Are we taking it Bibbs going to be dropped? Maybe a time for Frankie to step up?'" one dropped pass doesn't warrent dropping him, thought he went ok today apart from the blunder near the end
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| I think hes been playin well recentley.
Really has surprised me this season.
Been a strong runner.. Just needs to learn to keep hold of the ball
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| Quote ="BenchWarmer"Few silly errors im affraid to say from Kyle and JK has said " one of our young lads made an error but you have to learn."
Or was that more Murphy beaten to the high ball?
Are we taking it Bibbs going to be dropped? Maybe a time for Frankie to step up?'"
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| I thought Murphy was the intended target of that statement. Reading between the lines I read it as:
All players make mistakes and youngsters need to be given some time to develop on their errors. Every SL will be able to see today's game and if they feel that they can expose the problem they will, whilst JK needs to fix it and if this can be fixed all well and good..................... if not then there is no need exposing a youngster.
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| think some people are bigging up Winterstien without ever seeing him play, just hope you are not dissapointed, dont expect mountains moved(well not too early anyway )
be patient
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| Quote ="kentcat"think some people are bigging up Winterstien without ever seeing him play, just hope you are not dissapointed, dont expect mountains moved(well not too early anyway
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And the daft thing is, this seems mainly because he's got a bit of a comedy name, and so every expects him to be a real monster. I reckon if he was called John Smith, we would hardly know he was here.
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| Bibb has done nowt for my money. Really poor today (again), just never makes a yard and is always last back in the line, I could forgive him his blunder if he made a few yards - but nope not for me. He will be at the bottom of the food chain when Danny, Ricky and Frankie baby are all fit. Bibb is not making the most of his chance.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Bibb has done nowt for my money. Really poor today (again), just never makes a yard and is always last back in the line, I could forgive him his blunder if he made a few yards - but nope not for me. He will be at the bottom of the food chain when Danny, Ricky and Frankie baby are all fit. Bibb is not making the most of his chance.'"
Are you for real
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Bibb has done nowt for my money. Really poor today (again), just never makes a yard and is always last back in the line, I could forgive him his blunder if he made a few yards - but nope not for me. He will be at the bottom of the food chain when Danny, Ricky and Frankie baby are all fit. Bibb is not making the most of his chance.'"
I accept its your opinon but i think its way too harsh on Bibb, he's had some good games for us and made good yards for a young man still learning the game.
I would have hoped that the pack be rotated this season but due to injuries its not happened.
Frankie baby, we'll have to wait and see on that one.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I accept its your opinon but i think its way too harsh on Bibb, he's had some good games for us and made good yards for a young man still learning the game.
I would have hoped that the pack be rotated this season but due to injuries its not happened.
Frankie baby, we'll have to wait and see on that one.'"
Why do some folk never learn!
Here we are at a club that has taken every waif and stray on board and patiently waited for them to blossom. How long has it taken Wilkes, Moore and Bibey to hit form. Wilkes spent most of his career in NL1 as a lost cause and is only now playing as a SL player. So why expect a rookie to do it in 12 month. Of course Bibb made errors yesterday and he will continue to do so until his learning curve is complete.
Both he and Pitts have been exceptional as both were never expected to play so many games this season. Yet Winterstien is yet to play a game and he is given huge raps, unbeleivable it really is.
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| Bibb was not the only player that made stupid mistakes yesterday it was just unfortunate that he dropped the ball in a part of the game that nearly turned it for Bradford.
So far he has done a decent job as a rotation prop. It was clear yesterday that we struggled for size and muscle upfront and as long as we have our prop injury list I think he is worth his place.
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| Quote ="vastman"Why do some folk never learn!
Here we are at a club that has taken every waif and stray on board and patiently waited for them to blossom. How long has it taken Wilkes, Moore and Bibey to hit form. Wilkes spent most of his career in NL1 as a lost cause and is only now playing as a SL player. So why expect a rookie to do it in 12 month. Of course Bibb made errors yesterday and he will continue to do so until his learning curve is complete.
Both he and Pitts have been exceptional as both were never expected to play so many games this season. Yet Winterstien is yet to play a game and he is given huge raps, unbeleivable it really is.
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IMO neither of these two should have played so many back to back games, but they have and they have not lets us down.
Frankies overseas so he must be far better and bordering on world class.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"And the daft thing is, this seems mainly because he's got a bit of a comedy name, and so every expects him to be a real monster. I reckon if he was called John Smith, we would hardly know he was here.'"
no need to be bitter
although on a serious note why do some always look for a scapegoat , kyle will learn as the seniors will develop him into a much brighter prospect .
dont forget that about 13 years ago we told Peacock that he would never make the grade
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"IMO neither of these two should have played so many back to back games, but they have and they have not lets us down.
Frankies overseas so he must be far better and bordering on world class.'"
Now at last someone starting to talk sense..... We have signed him from the NRL therefore he must be a superstar!
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| Quote ="mutley cat"
dont forget that about 13 years ago we told Peacock that he would never make the grade icon_rolleyes.gif'"
Not just us, even Bradford at the time didn't think much of him.
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| Quote ="kentcat"think some people are bigging up Winterstien without ever seeing him play, just hope you are not dissapointed, dont expect mountains moved(well not too early anyway
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I've seen him play plenty of times since he was a schoolboy at Endeavour High and playing juniors for the Roosters.
I was taught if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"I've seen him play plenty of times since he was a schoolboy at Endeavour High and playing juniors for the Roosters.
I was taught if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.'"
Whats the verdict on FW then, do you think he'll fit in and what are his strong/weak points.
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| I think that Bibb is our weakest forward, but he his doing his job.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Whats the verdict on FW then, do you think he'll fit in and what are his strong/weak points.
Ta.'"
He has always been a wide running lock/2nd rower.
He is tall and has decent ball skills but hasn't got a real high workrate.
Hard to predict how successful he'll be but if any coach can take his game to new heights it's JK.
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"I think that Bibb is our weakest forward, but he his doing his job.'"
May well be true Josh, but we get a decent effort from him and he's put his body on the line for us when we needed it.
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| Don't know if it is just me but the thing with Bibb is that he looks quite lazy. Other young players from other clubs and Pitts etc. seem to be full of energy. Young forwards do struggle and get knocked back in most tackles but Bibb doesn't seem to run with the energy to get knocked back. Mabe this is all down to his size but in the Cas game he looked a different player, in attack and defence, why can't he play like that more often.
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| Cast your mind back to last year. Bibey was getting some real stick and was considered the weakest forward. His hit ups looked lazy and he often stopped as he approached the defensive line.
This season he was a different player; taking the ball up at full pelt, deftly offloading to supporting colleagues and slipping quick passes out creating gaps. Bibb, other then a few dropped balls, did OK today and looked a little more lively when running the ball up. He will improve with time and unfortunately that is not something, as supporters, we give to young players. If he’s not James Graham or Sam Burgess then he’s no good.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Bibb has done nowt for my money. Really poor today (again), just never makes a yard and is always last back in the line, I could forgive him his blunder if he made a few yards - but nope not for me. He will be at the bottom of the food chain when Danny, Ricky and Frankie baby are all fit. Bibb is not making the most of his chance.'" Well said.
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| I totally disagree, for me Bibb had a very good game except two errors in our own twenty. He ran the ball in strong and made some good yards. I'm not quite sure people are expecting from a young prop.
The lad is coming along very nicely and has had to play more than his fair share of games for a young lad. The game was full of errors which is due to tired players but that is the nature of the Easter period.
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