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| With 3 contenders for the bottom prize, our neighbours from over the common are still in contention.
The remaining fixtures are:
Hull FC vs Cas
London vs Hull KR
Widnes vs Warrington
With Warrington perhaps resting a few and with Widnes busting a gut, they could just about spring a surprise.
I cant see Cas winning but London might beat KR (now that they have nothing to play for)
Although Widnes are favourites, there will be some nerves over the common.
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| I'd love Widnes to beat Warrington and push Cas to bottom.
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| Think with fixtures left it will be Widnes.
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| Widnes would have been up for their derby match at home to Warrington anyway without the late defeat last night, so I reckon Widnes could well sneak it. London have been improving undrr Tony Rea despite drawing a blank against Saints, but kr after surrending an inpregnable looking lead against Wigan yesterday, will be out to right a few wrongs. I do fear for cas (*ss*) as given Hull's ruthlessness on Saturday, I think cas will get marmalised by Hull.
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| Looking at the fixtures on paper I'd say Widnes but with the unpredictability of this season I can see a dramatic end that will see the following table...
12. London 14pts
13. Widnes 14pts
14. Castleford 12pts
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Looking at the fixtures on paper I'd say Widnes but with the unpredictability of this season I can see a dramatic end that will see the following table...
12. London 14pts
13. Widnes 14pts
14. Castleford 12pts'"
They will have to drill another hole on the bottom shelf of their trophy cabinet, so they can stand the spoon up alongside the others
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"They will have to drill another hole on the bottom shelf of their trophy cabinet, so they can stand the spoon up alongside the others
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Ha ha. Quality
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"They will have to drill another hole on the bottom shelf of their trophy cabinet, so they can stand the spoon up alongside the others
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Mever mind drilling holes, they'll need a bowl to put em in at this rate. Quite a big bowl at that.
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| Much like you last season? Pot calling the kettle black, fighting for the wodden spoon. Your memories can't remember that far back?
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| ^Yes we can actually, as well as our relief as to not finishing bottom after beating Bradford last game of the season. Now if you don't mind, we have a place in the playoffs to try and secure...
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| Quote ="TheTiger123"Much like you last season? Pot calling the kettle black, fighting for the wodden spoon. Your memories can't remember that far back?'"
Didn't realise memories had memories!!!
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| Quote ="TheTiger123"Much like you last season? Pot calling the kettle black, fighting for the wodden spoon. Your memories can't remember that far back?'"
And Cas fans were very sympathetic? Thats the trouble (and the magic) of rivalries like ours, sometimes you're dishing it out and sometimes you're taking it - we're just enjoying our moment in the ascendancy, so button it and take your punishment with some dignity!
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| Would love Cas to finish bottom for bragging rights
But SL for me would always be a poorer place without our nearest and dearest. We all have our time in the sun.
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| Quote ="TheTiger123"Much like you last season? Pot calling the kettle black, fighting for the wodden spoon. Your memories can't remember that far back?'"
We can remember last season but, we cant remember our last wooden spoon, can you ?
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| i can't remember when we last finished bottom.......
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| Quote ="miamivice"i can't remember when we last finished bottom.......'"
Second half of the 1980's I believe when we were relegated just before Toppo took over. We were getting battered all season then finally got our first victory, I think it was 38-20 win v Widnes at home. Then a week or two later we suffered our record ever defeat (at the time) at home to Wigan when Henderson Gill and Ellery Hanley ran riot. I think they put 72 past us?
A year later we were promoted along with Fev and Oldham. Started that season new season in the top flight well by beating Warrington, Wigan and Hull in our first 3 games. And never finished bottom ever since
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| If there was any justice, the Bulls would finish bottom, I seem to recall Melbourne Storm having most points deducted for salary cap breaches. The bulls saga has made a joke of the game. They have blatantly broken the rules to bust the club but its a well worn thread elswhere.
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| Quote ="TheTiger123"Much like you last season? Pot calling the kettle black, fighting for the wodden spoon. Your memories can't remember that far back?'"
I remember it well. Still didn't finish bottom of the table either, even with a 4 point deduction.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Second half of the 1980's I believe when we were relegated just before Toppo took over. We were getting battered all season then finally got our first victory, I think it was 38-20 win v Widnes at home. Then a week or two later we suffered our record ever defeat (at the time) at home to Wigan when Henderson Gill and Ellery Hanley ran riot. I think they put 72 past us?
A year later we were promoted along with Fev and Oldham. Started that season new season in the top flight well by beating Warrington, Wigan and Hull in our first 3 games. And never finished bottom ever since
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4 went down that year. We only just missed making it. We went down as third from bottom.
We have never finished bottom of the league
Ironically Cas survived with one win more than us.
More ironically, Wigan were the next one above Cas. Shows how things can be turned around.....both ways, as Leigh were top.
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| Quote ="PopTart"4 went down that year. We only just missed making it. We went down as third from bottom.
We have never finished bottom of the league
Ironically Cas survived with one win more than us.
More ironically, Wigan were the next one above Cas. Shows how things can be turned around.....both ways, as Leigh were top.'"
Apologies.....you are talking about 86-87. We were bottom then. Didn't realise that.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Wigan were the next one above Cas. Shows how things can be turned around'"
And yet some short-sighted berks continue to advocate that SL be reduced in number, which would be as spectacular an example of kicking away the ladder as you're ever likely to see.
Even now Tony Hannan, the editor of 40-20 magazine, is banging on about how the race for 8th spot is an exercise in rewarding mediocrity; perhaps he'd prefer it if instead of trying to make incremental improvements, clubs like ours just went out and spent millions they didn't have on buying players that would propel them instantly into the top 4 - I wonder what would happen to a club that did that?
Oh wait...
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| Quote ="bren2k"And yet some short-sighted berks continue to advocate that SL be reduced in number, which would be as spectacular an example of kicking away the ladder as you're ever likely to see.
Even now Tony Hannan, the editor of 40-20 magazine, is banging on about how the race for 8th spot is an exercise in rewarding mediocrity; perhaps he'd prefer it if instead of trying to make incremental improvements, clubs like ours just went out and spent millions they didn't have on buying players that would propel them instantly into the top 4 - I wonder what would happen to a club that did that?
Oh wait...'"
All the rubbish that keeps coming around regarding reducing the number of teams in SL.
We ought to let Leeds, Wigan, Warrington and Saints form their own "even more super, super league" with its weekly dose of super intense rugby.
Then we could "promote Fev, Leigh, Fax and Sheffield and have a decent league, everyones a winner ! and when the big 4 come and ask someone to join their elite competition we could tell them exactly what to do.
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| Quote ="bren2k"And yet some short-sighted berks continue to advocate that SL be reduced in number, which would be as spectacular an example of kicking away the ladder as you're ever likely to see.
Even now Tony Hannan, the editor of 40-20 magazine, is banging on about how the race for 8th spot is an exercise in rewarding mediocrity; perhaps he'd prefer it if instead of trying to make incremental improvements, clubs like ours just went out and spent millions they didn't have on buying players that would propel them instantly into the top 4 - I wonder what would happen to a club that did that?
Oh wait...'"
I think what he's saying is pretty accurate TBH, last season Hull finished eighth with about as many wins than losses as will we if we make it this year, that is technically rewarding mediocrity.
An argument could be made for reducing the top eight to only the top six, and in a way i would agree.
One thing it wouldn't take into account thought would be that it would make it even more difficult for clubs outside of the top six to recruit players with aspirations of success and would limit their opportunities to break into the top echelon of our sport, as more money would be generated by the "successful" clubs.
As with many things that are out of balance in our game or wrong, messing about with them only makes them wronger!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I think what he's saying is pretty accurate TBH, last season Hull finished eighth with about as many wins than losses as will we if we make it this year, that is technically rewarding mediocrity.
An argument could be made for reducing the top eight to only the top six, and in a way i would agree.
One thing it wouldn't take into account thought would be that it would make it even more difficult for clubs outside of the top six to recruit players with aspirations of success and would limit their opportunities to break into the top echelon of our sport, as more money would be generated by the "successful" clubs.
As with many things that are out of balance in our game or wrong, messing about with them only makes them wronger!!'"
There you go - you've successfully argued with yourself until you agreed with my way of thinking.
Good show!
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| Quote ="bren2k"There you go - you've successfully argued with yourself until you agreed with my way of thinking.
Good show!'"
From the point of view of rewarding mediocrity he's right, I didn't think you agreed with that from your post?
The repercussions of going back to six are more of a financial problem for the club than the possible on field benefits for the game for the reasons we both listed.
I don't see how I've argued with myself, maybe I just didn't understand your post?
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