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| I only saw first team rugby last season. Can anyone suggest any young lads who could step up to the first team next season. Heard good things about a lad called Juddah Mazive but not seen him play.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"I only saw first team rugby last season. Can anyone suggest any young lads who could step up to the first team next season. Heard good things about a lad called Juddah Mazive but not seen him play.'"
Good kid,only 16 I believe,having watched nearly all of the 19s games last season,I thought he was the most improved,but he's far from first grade at the mo,but if he keeps listening and improving,who knows.His position is winger,with the odd FB start.
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| He's a second year Academy player so U18
Explosive player who has great footwork and speed, he supports players very instinctively and scores a lot of tries off it.
Not ready for 1st team football for a good couple of years or more imo
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| Frazer Morris (Prop Forward) - Big strong lad & Cleared up at the awards night - Should be giving him a deal.
Harry Swan ( / Second Row) - Another big lad, get him into shape and he could definitely make it.
Bradley Moules (Hooker) - We gave him a 1 year deal last season for the first team - Didn't play but he has the potential to make it first grade.
Also heard good things bout Ben Cornell (Hookers) & Scott Flemming (Half Back) too, along with the already mentioned Judah Mazive.
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| Quote ="W.T.W"Frazer Morris (Prop Forward) - Big strong lad & Cleared up at the awards night - Should be giving him a deal.
Harry Swan (Centre / Second Row) - Another big lad, get him into shape and he could definitely make it.
Bradley Moules (Hooker) - We gave him a 1 year deal last season for the first team - Didn't play but he has the potential to make it first grade.
Also heard good things bout Ben Cornell (Hookers) & Scott Flemming (Half Back) too, along with the already mentioned Judah Mazive.'"
Harry is no longer with us.
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| I haven't seen the young uns for a couple of years but I do keep hearing Ben Cornell's name mentioned by those in the know.
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| Young lad James Bachelor was giving a trial this season and has impressed. Scored in his first 3 games.
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| Said it before, it's a shame we couldn't bring Corbyn Kilday back to the club.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"Said it before, it's a shame we couldn't bring Corbyn Kilday back to the club.'"
I think Swindon bound.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Harry is no longer with us.'"
That's a shame. Looked promising
Also a shame that the website doesn't have all the profiles on. But I'm sure I can forgive the club for this one!
Over the next 3 or 4 years I'd like us to have a fair few more Academy products in the first team.
Max Jowitt, Tom Johnstone, Jordan Crowther & Chris Annakin, and hopefully Ben Shulver, all have the ability to nail down a First Team spot. Just hope we carry it on and introduce some more.
Wigan had 10/17 in the grand final squad, whilst Leeds had 8/17 in theirs - that we're Academy products.
One day!!
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| Although we should aspire to have the same number of quality junior Wigan or Leeds, having 5 of our own who will all play some first team rugby, is a massive step forward for Trinity.
I cant remember the last time we were in this position.
Of course, the key is to try and add a couple youngsters each year until we get a strong nucleus of home grown players and their presence will certainly help encourage others.
Under Smiths guidance, they are all certain to improve which can only be good for the club.
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| Worth noting that the big clubs get a lot of praise for promoting their own - whilst the majority of them are exactly not that - hence clubs like Wakefield struggle to hang on to the best ones.
Ryan Hampshire - Wigans own???
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| Quote ="TRB"Worth noting that the big clubs get a lot of praise for promoting their own - whilst the majority of them are exactly not that - hence clubs like Wakefield struggle to hang on to the best ones.
Ryan Hampshire - Wigans own???'"
Yeah, there is no doubt that they hoover up large numbers of youngsters from wherever they can but, the one thing that thy appear to do well, is to develop them into top quality players and they aren't afraid to play them plus, when they do play, the young lads fit seamlessly into to team.
It's all about having the numbers and quality in the first place and the other aspect, especially in relation to Wigan is, that if they lose one of there good youngsters, there is another player, just as capable, right behind them on the production line.
Although it was all "good business" they never appear too worried when these players move on.
Most clubs would be gutted to lose players of Tomkins' quality or, Joe Burgess but, they seem to be largely unaffected and of course they often return.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Yeah, there is no doubt that they hoover up large numbers of youngsters from wherever they can but, the one thing that thy appear to do well, is to develop them into top quality players and they aren't afraid to play them plus, when they do play, the young lads fit seamlessly into to team.
It's all about having the numbers and quality in the first place and the other aspect, especially in relation to Wigan is, that if they lose one of there good youngsters, there is another player, just as capable, right behind them on the production line.
Although it was all "good business" they never appear too worried when these players move on.
Most clubs would be gutted to lose players of Tomkins' quality or, Joe Burgess but, they seem to be largely unaffected and of course they often return.'"
Producing juniors of the quality and quantity takes big bucks - hence the Hull situation - which I am no a fan of at all as I thinks its a really bad move for the game and very short sighted!
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| Wigan,Warrington scouts are at most of the Wakefield and district games,it's just got to be accepted that young lads are going to be easily drawn to these clubs,and walk around with the track suits on.The 2 lads from the 16s proves it that money talks.I've said it before, that until Trin can pay silly money to a 16yr old then we can only rely on loyalty.Don't forget that Wigan have already been punished for their scholarship dealings and I dare bet it's hardly scratched the surface.
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| Quote ="TRB"Worth noting that the big clubs get a lot of praise for promoting their own - whilst the majority of them are exactly not that - hence clubs like Wakefield struggle to hang on to the best ones.
Ryan Hampshire - Wigans own???'"
TRB - Ryan Hampshire has never been at Wakey. Wigan signed him from Normanton Knights. Wigan are in order for promoting him - they developed him.
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| Quote ="TRB"Worth noting that the big clubs get a lot of praise for promoting their own - whilst the majority of them are exactly not that - hence clubs like Wakefield struggle to hang on to the best ones.'"
Exactly that - whilst people praise Wigan for developing youth, let's not forget this is the same Wigan who were fined earlier this year for illegal approaches to academy players at other clubs.
Wakefield will always get raided - we always have - Shudds have done it again recently and when Wigan or Leeds come knocking, it's hard to hang on to a kid with stars in his eyes; it's such a regular occurrence now, that we must over-recruit to compensate for the ones who'll be lured away by the childcatchers from the bigger clubs.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Wigan,Warrington scouts are at most of the Wakefield and district games,it's just got to be accepted that young lads are going to be easily drawn to these clubs,and walk around with the track suits on.The 2 lads from the 16s proves it that money talks.I've said it before, that until Trin can pay silly money to a 16yr old then we can only rely on loyalty.Don't forget that Wigan have already been punished for their scholarship dealings and I dare bet it's hardly scratched the surface.'"
True, not only that but to be fair when you look at our track record (of recent) of bringing academy lads through and then you look at Wigan, Leeds etc..
Where would you want to go if you had the choice?
I suppose Teams like Wigan and Leeds can afford to take risks when it comes to giving there young lads chances as there isn't really much risk there of relegation... I would also argue that the young lads (In the backs more so) are surrounded by great players, put young Tom Johnstone in the Wigan team and he would likely be up there with the top try scorers.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"True, not only that but to be fair when you look at our track record (of recent) of bringing academy lads through and then you look at Wigan, Leeds etc..
Where would you want to go if you had the choice?
I suppose Teams like Wigan and Leeds can afford to take risks when it comes to giving there young lads chances as there isn't really much risk there of relegation... I would also argue that the young lads (In the backs more so) are surrounded by great players, put young Tom Johnstone in the Wigan team and he would likely be up there with the top try scorers.'"
Yep, the top teams blood their young uns against the likes of us, but these are the teams we need to beat and cannot risk inexperience. We end up putting youngsters in against teams we are unlikely to beat, which can have a negative psychological and physical effect on the players.
There are very few positives for the youngsters when the team in general, which by definition is weaker, is getting bossed.
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| Quote ="TRB"Producing juniors of the quality and quantity takes big bucks - hence the Hull situation - which I am no a fan of at all as I thinks its a really bad move for the game and very short sighted!'"
I here what you are saying but if the Hull scheme means they stop in the Hull area rather than disappearing elsewhere then half is better than nothing
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"True, not only that but to be fair when you look at our track record (of recent) of bringing academy lads through and then you look at Wigan, Leeds etc..
Where would you want to go if you had the choice?
I suppose Teams like Wigan and Leeds can afford to take risks when it comes to giving there young lads chances as there isn't really much risk there of relegation... I would also argue that the young lads (In the backs more so) are surrounded by great players, put young Tom Johnstone in the Wigan team and he would likely be up there with the top try scorers.'"
We've had the choice and not only from Wigan,like I said earlier,loyalty is a massive thing in all sports.
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| Quote ="TRB"Producing juniors of the quality and quantity takes big bucks - hence the Hull situation - which I am no a fan of at all as I thinks its a really bad move for the game and very short sighted!'"
Looking at our squad so far for next season I could put forward the names of a couple of shirt fillers who would not be missed and I am sure their wages would be more than enough to replace them with a couple of promising youngsters of the quality
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| I don't think we're in a bad position regarding home grown players considering the state of the club for the last few years. We currently have Johnstone, Crowther, Jowitt, Annakin and Shulver in or around the first team squad. That's five academy products. Let's say we introduce 1 more next season and a couple more the season after that gives us a core of 8 home grown players brought through our own system within the next two years. With the exception of the Leeds side 15 years ago, clubs rarely bring through a batch of players at the same time. If we can keep doing for the next few years what we appearing to be doing now we could end up with the nucleus of side which we've developed ourselves. Keeping them is a different story.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"TRB - Ryan Hampshire has never been at Wakey. Wigan signed him from Normanton Knights. Wigan are in order for promoting him - they developed him.'"
He's a product of Wakefield, he was one of the most talented young players in the Wakefield catchment area but like many others each year he was snaffled away to a bigger club leaving Trinity to develop players who are 2nd, 3rd or even 4th in the draft.
It's OK praising the Wigan and Leeds youth system but they get the cream of the potential young players with whom the task of developing them is easier and less likely to fail hence they produce more.
I would argue that with the talent having being picked over by Leeds, Wigan and Warrington then for Wakefield to produce 1 SL player per year from what's left is far harder than Wigan producing 5!
Wigan signed 16 Year 10 (U15s) to their scholarship this year and only 4 are from the Wigan area, Leeds signed 19 and only 4 are from Leeds so you go figure out where the other 27 young players that joined these two clubs came from and that's just Wigan and Leeds, Warrington are just as bad for raiding other catchment areas.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"TRB - Ryan Hampshire has never been at Wakey. Wigan signed him from Normanton Knights. Wigan are in order for promoting him - they developed him.'"
Clueless as usual, Ryan went from Wakefield to Hull and then to Wigin. HTH
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