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| Didn’t see the last 3 games, however, just opening a thread for discussion.
A good win last night but What has really changed ?
• Are the players playing better because of better coaching techniques (hard to see this as such a short space of time)
• Had the players lost communication with CC?
• The team sheet doesn’t seem to have changed significantly?
• Have the match tactics changed significantly?
• Players playing for next season ?
It does make you wonder……….
On another note great to see such a big crowd at the Hull game on Sky last night……. Not! The game is in decline which is a shame.
Tik tok tik tok tik tok, if the powers that be don’t do something and attract investors we will not have the great game at all!
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| Quote ="Divdav77"Didn’t see the last 3 games, however, just opening a thread for discussion.
A good win last night but What has really changed ?
• Are the players playing better because of better coaching techniques (hard to see this as such a short space of time)
• Had the players lost communication with CC?
• The team sheet doesn’t seem to have changed significantly?
• Have the match tactics changed significantly?
• Players playing for next season ?
It does make you wonder……….
On another note great to see such a big crowd at the Hull game on Sky last night……. Not! The game is in decline which is a shame.
Tik tok tik tok tik tok, if the powers that be don’t do something and attract investors we will not have the great game at all!'"
I think there are some players who, for whatever reason, didn't want to play for Chester and when you go back to the alleged player revolt of last season, perhaps there was something in that.
Certainly the players dont suddenly improve but, perhaps some different input from the coach can change their mentality.
There is usually a "bounce" when the coach is changed and there is no doubt that everyone is playing for each other.
Our line defence looks pretty good and there is a decent scramble.
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| Think it's down to being more positive in attack ,and Lino is beginning to look like a good signing
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| Quote ="Divdav77"Didn’t see the last 3 games, however, just opening a thread for discussion.
A good win last night but What has really changed ?
• Are the players playing better because of better coaching techniques (hard to see this as such a short space of time)
• Had the players lost communication with CC?
• The team sheet doesn’t seem to have changed significantly?
• Have the match tactics changed significantly?
• Players playing for next season ?
It does make you wonder……….
On another note great to see such a big crowd at the Hull game on Sky last night……. Not! The game is in decline which is a shame.
Tik tok tik tok tik tok, if the powers that be don’t do something and attract investors we will not have the great game at all!'"
Think we need to stay calm here. In essence, very little has changed.
This is still Chesters team and Poching will have had little or no chance to make any real changes.
What I suspect WP has done is told the players to go out and show him what they can do and justify their place in next year's squad, whether that squad has him at his head or someone else.
So I think we need to hold fire on judging both the players and the coach, best just to enjoy for now. When it all settles down we will soon see if the team's flaws have been truly addressed or as much as they possibly can be without an off-season and a few new players.
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| Lets not forget how good we were when Chester first arrived. He loosened the reigns a little but I don't think he changed the side all that much either?
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| I was going to ask the same question without doing Chester an injustice.
Something must have changed because that result against HKR was achieved without our regular full back and centres and when you add late withdrawal s it's quite an achievement.
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| As the season is coming to an end it became clearer that Leigh wouldn't pull off a great escape so that could well be helping the lads and coach to loosen up a bit too.
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| Good point Wollo.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"As the season is coming to an end it became clearer that Leigh wouldn't pull off a great escape so that could well be helping the lads and coach to loosen up a bit too.'"
Yeah, a lot less pressure now and a lot more freedom.
However, the same could be said for KR too and they came second last night
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| We can with the two wins prepare with certainty for another season in SL.
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| I think it's a confidence thing.
When you change coaches you get the "just go out and enjoy yourself' thing. You can't easily do that as the old coach.
Chester had a similar run a month or so ago.
It's hard to sustain without more significant changes but Willie seems to have got them on that wave.
Let's see how it goes. I'm enjoying the ride for now.
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| The left edge is still weak and soaks in tries, three I think last night but the overall change is refreshing to say the least
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| Quote ="Manuel"The left edge is still weak and soaks in tries, three I think last night but the overall change is refreshing to say the least'"
Don't agree really, they were down the left side of the pitch but I'd only say the last one was a genuine breakdown, the other two came from missed tackles much further infield. HKR chose to attack that side, possibly because there were two wingers defending or possibly because their best back was on that side.
If you watch the Cas game you'd say it was the right side that looked weak and the left solid, but the same players. It all depends imo on the opposition attacking formation and players as to which side gets more hammer.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think it's a confidence thing.
When you change coaches you get the "just go out and enjoy yourself' thing. You can't easily do that as the old coach.
Chester had a similar run a month or so ago.
It's hard to sustain without more significant changes but Willie seems to have got them on that wave.
Let's see how it goes. I'm enjoying the ride for now.'"
We certainly look more potent in the opposition 20.
For a while, it was more a case of seeing how long it was before we made a mistake, with little or, at least, no apparent structure/idea.
Last night we scored a couple of excellent tries, rather than just the off the cuff stuff that we've had for most of the season
Could be down to attitude more than new ideas but, as you say, lets enjoy the ride.
For all sorts of reasons, it's been a torrid 2 1/2 seasons and if we can finish the season in form and now safe from the threat of relegation, it will help massively in the close season.
WE also need to see some fans returning to BV and nothing better than a home game against Leeds to do just that.
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| There have been a couple of subtle changes.
We are not running so much from acting halfback and getting at least one pass per play.
We are contesting the kicks on last tackle plays. For some reason we never did under CC.
Our line speed seems much better (mostly) but we seem to get caught offside a bit more often now too.
Our unforced error rate is still too high and we need to focus on better execution, but so far I am happy watching a team improve
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| I think it's too early to say whether anything has changed. Things do feel more optimistic going into the game this afternoon, but I don't think tou can make a judgement after 3 games. I think we had an element of luck against Wire, and whilst we pushed Cas close we did the same at home earlier in the season as well. The Hull KR result was massive and one I didn't see coming, but we were equally impressive against them at Belle Vue. Even when Chester won three in a row many fans were still calling for his head, so to say a corner has been turned after 2 from 3 is a tad premature. Having said that, I fancy a win for us this afternoon.
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| Well somethings changed.
H K R come for behind and then control the game.
Particularly after late changes and regular centres out.
Less silly penalties given away.
Then today managed to play to the full 80.
At 13 13 still managed to look like they wanted to put the game to bed.
Good solid display
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| The fact that we usually turn 4 points into six helps to make winning more likely in the close games.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The fact that we usually turn 4 points into six helps to make winning more likely in the close games.'"
Thats a good point. I can’t be bothered looking but when was the last time Lino missed a kick at goal? Seems a while ago?
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| What's good to see is that we are now learning to win after starting points down rather than capitulate as in recent times.
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| Dont think too much as changed other than confidence and maybe belief and there seems to be a more togetherness within themselves.i think we played better in the loss at headingley this year.our scramble defence was better though.we still look to be lacking in ideas near line and i think we coughed up the ball 3 times on first or second tackle in there 20 in first 20 mins.
But its great to be winning games and thats all that matters
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| Maybe I'm a good luck charm?
2 out of 2 with me in attendance.
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| If Chester had been relieved as head coach earlier in the season when it was obvious he'd lost the plot, with the performance of the team over the last 4 games we could possibly have made the playoffs. It's a long time since I saw a Wakefield side fight like they did today, against a side who will do anything they can get away with to get a result.
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| Quote ="DN6Fan"Maybe I'm a good luck charm?
2 out of 2 with me in attendance.'"
Don't want a four leaf clover. Don't want an old horse shoe
Elvis is probably a bit before your time!
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| Quote ="DN6Fan"Maybe I'm a good luck charm?
2 out of 2 with me in attendance.'"
If it continues ill buy you a season ticket
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