I've driven past the new Cold Store at the Newmarket site a few times recently and cant but help thinking the following.

Why does this building look nothing like the site models and artist impressions that were doing the rounds at the time.

Am I correct the square footage of this building is not part of the 106 agreement and therefore does not count towards triggering the stadium development. And if not why not?

Based on the above I'm quite frankly embarrassed to say I was in full support of this whole development.

Jason - there are numerous threads which attempt to detail how/why we have ended up here.

I'm not going to repeat it all here, but I do agree that it is embarrassing to see it and have nothing - yet- to show for it.

We remain positive that this position will change.

Looks a complete eyesore looking over from Altofts.

It will look better when the cladding goes on - but still mahoosive!

if the square footage of the Newcold building is not part of the 106 agreement and doesn't count towards triggering the stadium development it must have been built on land not included in the original plans. Is that right TRB ?

No - it was submitted on land that is within the NM area, but has now been removed from GB, as a separate application.

WMDC say they took legal advice and were unable to apply the 106 to this separate application and hence let it go through without contributing.

We were NOT aware of this at the time and are angry that this was allowed to happen in the way it has - but there may be little we can do about it now. It doesn't mean we can't have a say in future applications - which we will.

OK cheers.

Try leaving opposite it! I remember having a meeting at Stanley church in the words of York court. "I can assure you the ground will take priority before any other develpoments".

Absolute guff! Been filled with guff from the start. Absolute joke how this has happened.

Did WMDC not have a duty to inform all interested party's on the application, knowing there was something not quite right (by taking legal advice). To me it is bordering on negligence.

The question has been asked.

and what was the answer ?

You know,I have been lamb-basted on here for being a Mr Negative..and I am not a negative person. I am naively positive at times, but the frequent disappointment that has brought me in life has taught me one thing: if it looks, sounds and smells too good to be true, it almost certainly is. YorkCourt putting us up a lovely new stadium more or less bang smack on the Motorway confluences of M1 and M62 for more or less nothing, so they can build a great big business development...always sounded like a political smoke screen to me. Stank all the time. OF COURSE YOU/ WE HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED. NOTHING WILL EVER COME OF THIS!!! Sorry to those of you still working on this in some way but I reckon you are being made fools of. This all has the stinking, putrid, turgid and nasty stench and feel of corruption driven through it like the Blackpool in the rock

We await!

I wish you'd been here 10 years ago - you'd have saved me a large chunk of my life as my kids grew up!

The White flag has now been raised above Wrenthorpe Towers and we have passed on the job to Peter Box to finish off?

Thank you!

Isn't Charlie entitled to an opinion?

Personally I'm glad the embers are still smoking on the development and that there are people trying to find a way to make it work. I've said numerous times " respect to those involved" but Charlie's not in his own in thinking this is isn't going to happen and maybe in the dark corridors of the Town Hall they knew it never was!

It's not uncommon for developers to build sporting/community facilities as a sweetener for planning permission approval so the idea in principle is not fanciful (Cas are going down the same road). Unfortunately we aligned ourselves with the wrong developer.

Nothing wrong with an opinion, but it's pointless when everybody else already knows where we are.
Some are working very hard to put us back in a good position, some are waiting to see what happens, some are posting that it'll never happen.

Personally I'm in the middle group for what it's worth.

Don't know if the White flag has been raised but I can quite easily see why, but looking forward, this could be the time for someone new with fresh ideas to come forward, grasp the bull by the horns and help their club out.
Wait for the queues to start forming eh?


No don't think so either, hang your heads in shame you faceless posters, one guy who got off his ass to make a difference has now in effect been ridiculed out!

This is a forum Pop Tart, a message board where people express their opinions and chew the fat. If we're going to discourage people expressing an opinion you might as well close the forum.

Where has TRB been ridiculed or for that matter criticised?

I've seen lots of appreciation and praise for SWAG and ST members who've battled long and hard to get or keep the stadium issue onto the agendas of the powers that be.

Offering an opinion, even a negative view of the ultimate stadium outcome is one persons stance, it's their comment on the situation as it stands and shouldn't be seen as a criticism of those still being positive.

Ah right so its the fans fault this has gone tits up, glad you cleared that up. Big respect to TRB and all that have tried their nuts off for years but once we encounted the dodgy section 106 the battle was probably as good as done. They legally have us on a string. Try targeting your frustration at the people who perpertrated the cover up. Nobody is criticising the members of Swag and never should they. In fact they should all be made life members of the club. But people are annoyed at the situation. Hoodwinked is a good way of putting it without resorting to swearing. It might take a fresh batch of people or ideas to come forward but unless they come forward holding £10-15 million then the likelihood is it ain't going to make a blind bit of difference.

But at the same time as being negative to the outcome, negating what people have done/are doing hardly helps the cause.
Without trawling through hundreds of posts I view the majority as being negative to people involved, with the rider of "but you've done a great job mind you".
charie63wildcat wrote that TRB etc were being made to look foolish! Hardly a compliment.

So where did I state it was the fans fault?

Another irony meter bites the dust - try practicing what you preach!

I truly despair.