[*][quote="Butcher":at4di76n]I take your point, but I can’t remember Wigan rotating through many props. Byrne, Thompson, Havard, Dupree, Hill, and Cooper for a handful of games before he got injured. They have Eseh, Makin, and Chan too but I can’t remember any of them playing for Wigan last year. As Trojan often says, we should only sign players who would improve our squad. We’ve got Atoni, McMeeken, Rodwell, Uele, Vagana, Bain, Shaw. Now Chris Hill would certainly improve our squad for a year - his play the ball speed and wrestle is still up there with the best - but that would probably prevent Bain and Shaw getting game time. Singleton? I honestly don’t think he’s as good a player as our first five options. Runs and tackles hard but makes some poor decisions both sides of the ball. What is propping? Hate (love) to bring it up again, but as I see it in the modern game there’s no difference between a prop and a loose forward. I understand that 30 years ago a loose was a dynamic, hardworking, ball handling forward. And 10 years ago a loose became a prop but with good hands who organised other forwards. But now (with a few exceptions like Oledzski and Walmsley) 8,10 and 13 have the same skillset. No SL team should have a prop who can’t set up a play or tip the ball out the back accurately. If Cozza, Bain, or Pitts plays prop, and Rodwell or McMeeken plays 13, you wouldn’t notice apart from at kickoffs. Here for the debate![/quote:at4di76n] You forgot Mago, Ellis and Walters too. In a salary capped sport to have 11 players who can play prop in your squad was seen as very unusual. Byrne, Dupree and Mago were dropped for significant periods and Cooper injured for most of the season. I think teams carry props that are more middles these days but there are still out and out props out there and most teams carry at least 1 or 2. Uele and Atoni are Props, not middles. Fafita was a prop, Singleton and Hill are props not middles. I’d say a middle is capable of bigger minutes but lacks the impact of a prop. They are also usually more mobile. Ball playing and more importantly decision making is also key certainly the latter which tends to be the difference between a prop and a middle along with a minimum of 60 mins consistently week in week out. Beyond 2025 I hope that Rodwell takes the 13 shirt as I think that is his best position, but for that to happen we would need to recruit props/middles in the next off season.

Harvey Makin, Nene Macdonald and Watkins to Trin

God usually has decent info on who we’re signing etc. Be interesting to see what he thinks.

[quote="asmadasa":msaji56r]Harvey Makin, Nene Macdonald and Watkins to Trin[/quote:msaji56r] Would be happy with all three of them. Not refuting it, but have you seen it any more concrete than fan socials?

[quote="Pat Bateman":3ec924gj]God usually has decent info on who we’re signing etc. Be interesting to see what he thinks.[/quote:3ec924gj] Well, he would though wouldn't he?? Oh, you mean the [i:3ec924gj]forum[/i:3ec924gj] one......

[quote="Butcher":pj30silh]Would be happy with all three of them. Not refuting it, but have you seen it any more concrete than fan socials?[/quote:pj30silh] No it’s a hope only…