Agar does not rate him either, although people playing in front of him probably does not warrant being dropped.
Andy is on a big chunk of money too so quite an expensive luxury to have sitting in the stands.

I agree with this.
Murph was a 100% player, never shirked and always gave a solid performance, especially the games where he played full back. However, I dont think he will ever be a superstar.
Luke George may be the opposite. He played well in some games and seemed prone to errors in others, but he has genuine pace and the size to cause problems as a winger.
He bulked up a little last season and if he stays injury free he will go well this season.
Lets hope that they dont come back and haunt us tomorrow.
Come on Trin.

Couldn't agree more.

Murphy's real value lay in the fact that he joined the club at 16 and came up through the ranks. As a player he is steady, rugged and reliable but he is not a star player.

George on the other hand may be a touch fragile and sometimes looked like a rabbit in the headlamps - but when he got it right he had genuine wow factor. Very fast and balanced and a joy to watch when given some ball and space. Ironically something he may well of got far more of in this new set up.

Personally I don't think either will be International class but hey I may be wrong. Both will do well but George is the one I'd have back because he has some real class even if he lacks the ticker to make the very top IMHO.

The other important thing that figures is that players will often give that little bit extra -probably without even realising it- when they play for their hometown club. Yes they are professionals etc etc, but I imagine there is just that little bit more adrenaline in playing for the team you supported as a kid. Case in point is Paul Reilly- an absolute legend at hudds, played with his heart on his sleeve, but never really performed when he left as the desire he felt for the club he played for had gone.

Trout and Wildie to miss out, walshaw on bench

If Ellis or Motu T were chosen for the first team, they would be nowhere near match fit - they aren't getting games in the U20's either