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| Hard fought bonus point?
We shouldve been 30/40 points to 6 (thought your offside try was ok) up in first 25 mins we created that many chances - a shame the video is edited not to show us cutting through the Keighley defence like a knife through butter in the first half, only our poor finishing and bewildering refereeing descisons stopped the 1st half score being ridiculous - a bonus point shouldnt even been on the cards
And even when there was a sniff of it we gifted you it thanks a brain fart by Finn in last minute who flings the ball out to nobody after knocking the ball on instead of keeping possession and killing the ball
Ive also never seen a team get 3 team warnings, repeat offend and then only get one belatedly put in the bin when the game is as good as over
See you next season!
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Hard fought bonus point?
We shouldve been 30/40 points to 6 (thought your offside try was ok) up in first 25 mins we created that many chances - a shame the video is edited not to show us cutting through the Keighley defence like a knife through butter in the first half, only our poor finishing and bewildering refereeing descisons stopped the 1st half score being ridiculous - a bonus point shouldnt even been on the cards
And even when there was a sniff of it we gifted you it thanks a brain fart by Finn in last minute who flings the ball out to nobody after knocking the ball on instead of keeping possession and killing the ball
Ive also never seen a team get 3 team warnings, repeat offend and then only get one belatedly put in the bin when the game is as good as over
See you next season!'"
All pretty much true. If we had had the ball possession and penalty count you had we would certainly have won by more than you did, so whose fault is that, not Keighleys. You were also on a team warning and then offended straight after and he bottled sin binning a second player of yours. As for head high tackles it would appear our team must be taller than yours?
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Hard fought bonus point?
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Yes, third match in a week playing with a patched up side without key players and a scrambling defence that kept you out for large parts of the match.
Quote We shouldve been 30/40 points to 6 (thought your offside try was ok) up in first 25 mins we created that many chances - a shame the video is edited not to show us cutting through the Keighley defence like a knife through butter in the first half, only our poor finishing and bewildering refereeing descisons stopped the 1st half score being ridiculous - a bonus point shouldnt even been on the cards'"
You can cut through a side as much as you want but if you don't put the ball over the line it remains academic. The bewildering refereeing decision worked both ways.
Quote And even when there was a sniff of it we gifted you it thanks a brain fart by Finn in last minute who flings the ball out to nobody after knocking the ball on instead of keeping possession and killing the ball'"
The harder a defence works, the more "gifts" they recieve
Quote Ive also never seen a team get 3 team warnings, repeat offend and then only get one belatedly put in the bin when the game is as good as over.'"
I don't recall us getting three team warnings, but I could be wrong, I was busy worrying about a couple of purple faced Fev fans next to us. The ref also missed your constant offside and loose carries that he called rip outs but lets not quibble. He also bottled the decision for the elbow to the head that laid our player out in the second half. Fans on that side of the pitch who saw it said it should have been a straight red card. "On report" seems to be the way many refs work these days so it does not surprise me. Unless the match video has a good clear view, nothing will be done.
I found it disturbing that you seem to have adopted the Wigan tactic of "cannonball tackle" where you hold up a tackled man and another man dives late at the held mans knees sideways on. This is everybit as bad as the "chicken wing" and needs removing from the game.
You are clearly a far better side than us both on paper and by results, but sometimes that paper gets a bit wrinkled and damp and the ink runs.
Quote See you next season!'"
I hope so, but the fat lady has not stopped singing yet. Thursday night should prove interesting
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| York play Doncaster away on wed 28/8/13
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Hard fought bonus point?
We shouldve been 30/40 points to 6 (thought your offside try was ok) up in first 25 mins we created that many chances - a shame the video is edited not to show us cutting through the Keighley defence like a knife through butter in the first half, only our poor finishing and bewildering refereeing descisons stopped the 1st half score being ridiculous - a bonus point shouldnt even been on the cards
And even when there was a sniff of it we gifted you it thanks a brain fart by Finn in last minute who flings the ball out to nobody after knocking the ball on instead of keeping possession and killing the ball
Ive also never seen a team get 3 team warnings, repeat offend and then only get one belatedly put in the bin when the game is as good as over
See you next season!'"
Very impressed with this post. It must take some doing writing that with only one eye
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| Spot on response Dreamer, in my opinion.
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| One more win from games v Halifax & Barrow will mean Cougars are mathematically safe from relegation. A big turnout of Cougar supporters and a maximum strength 17 should mean it happens this Thursday evening v Halifax.
A play-off place is still possible but I'd suggest it's more crucial to start planning now and doing everything needed to ensure a top 9 finish in 2014 (meaning a place in the new super league 2 in 2015).
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| We need to attract a big crowd and make sure the away fans don't outnumber the home fans. Reduced admission for this one might be an idea.
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| Quote ="andysilsden"We need to attract a big crowd and make sure the away fans don't outnumber the home fans. Reduced admission for this one might be an idea.'"
No way prices should be reduced. We need to make as much money as possible through the gate.
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| Ok, lets be outnumbered then.
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| Quote ="andysilsden"Ok, lets be outnumbered then.'"
I just think these are the games to make most money. If we reduce for our fans we have to for them. If you was a cougars fans you would come for such a big game anyway?
Its the smaller gates we need to target. I am a season ticket holder but i dont mind deals but they have to be at the right time imo.
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| Quote ="HalifaxCougar"I just think these are the games to make most money. If we reduce for our fans we have to for them. If you was a cougars fans you would come for such a big game anyway?
Its the smaller gates we need to target. I am a season ticket holder but i dont mind deals but they have to be at the right time imo.'"
I will be there, Like I was on sunday, at Workington last wednesday and at Whitehaven the sunday prior to that.
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| Probably too late to market it now. Instead of increasing crowd, it would just lower the revenues.
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| Just to confirm that even if the admission was FREE I, along with lots of others would not attend.
The RFL as a whole have a big problem to face and seem totally incapable of addressing it. The Cougars are not big or strong enough to do anything more than they do.
An awful lot of people have forgotten what Rugby League was all about. Even more, so it seems, know even less.
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| Couldn't make the game tonight, but looking forward to the views. Looking at the scoreline it would seem we didn't turn up AGAIN. Teams around us appear to be raising their game and getting bonus points but we seem to struggle against the bigger teams. Hunslet away at Sheffield as a casing point. A late try gave them, what could be, a valuable point.
The way I see it York still prop up the table and will need 2 wins now to stand any chance. Hunslet will need to beat Fev at home and Swinton will need 3 points away at Haven. That being said, if we beat Barrow we control out own destiny. It's squeaky bum time that's for sure!
Now's not the time to look back, but we really should not be in this position. How much could our early season form hurt us?
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| Quote ="Dominance"Couldn't make the game tonight, but looking forward to the views. Looking at the scoreline it would seem we didn't turn up AGAIN. Teams around us appear to be raising their game and getting bonus points but we seem to struggle against the bigger teams. Hunslet away at Sheffield as a casing point. A late try gave them, what could be, a valuable point.
The way I see it York still prop up the table and will need 2 wins now to stand any chance. Hunslet will need to beat Fev at home and Swinton will need 3 points away at Haven. That being said, if we beat Barrow we control out own destiny. It's squeaky bum time that's for sure!
Now's not the time to look back, but we really should not be in this position. How much could our early season form hurt us?'"
It wasnt a case of us not turning up. Fax were just much better than us.
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| If we get a bonus point we control our own destiny.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Just to confirm that even if the admission was FREE I, along with lots of others would not attend.
The RFL as a whole have a big problem to face and seem totally incapable of addressing it. The Cougars are not big or strong enough to do anything more than they do.
An awful lot of people have forgotten what Rugby League was all about. Even more, so it seems, know even less.'"
Cougars supporters need to be more upbeat and confident than this especially with the memory of Cougarmania in the 1990's showing what was and still is possible, if everybody pulls together. On another thread about whether Featherstone should be picked to be put in Super League next season if London Broncos fold, even a Hull KR supporter thinks Cougars are a good bet for Super League:-
Quote ="Roofs"Would love to see Fev in, but also still feel Keighley could be re-born as an SL club (esp with the Bulls unfortunately on a downward slope).
Part of me will also always think a York is a big enough city to support an SL club, great place.
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Although just a bonus point against Barrow would be enough to guarantee staying up, Cougars supporters should get to Barrow to cheer the team on to a famous win - then the other new signings for 2014 will be announced.
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"Cougars supporters need to be more upbeat and confident than this especially with the memory of Cougarmania in the 1990's showing what was and still is possible, if everybody pulls together. On another thread about whether Featherstone should be picked to be put in Super League next season if London Broncos fold, even a Hull KR supporter thinks Cougars are a good bet for Super League:-
Although just a bonus point against Barrow would be enough to guarantee staying up, Cougars supporters should get to Barrow to cheer the team on to a famous win - then the other new signings for 2014 will be announced.'"
I wish you all the luck, I would hate to see Keighley go down, a great club, a nice cosy bar, some nice supporters and a great pie and peas.
Mind you I would not like to see Barra go down, a great three days away.
Best of luck, Keighley.
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| Quote ="guess who"It wasnt a case of us not turning up. Fax were just much better than us.'"
To be fair if you had played us a couple of weeks ago the result would have been much closer.
Yes we clicked yesterday but apart from an odd result we have been pretty mediocre all season.
Remember, we have lost to Featherstone twice, Seagulls three times, Leigh once and drawn with Batley, not the season we hoped for.
Good luck in your last game.
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| Quote ="guess who"It wasnt a case of us not turning up. Fax were just much better than us.'"
A spot-on assessment of why we got beat. There was a noticeable difference in class between the two teams. I couldn't really fault our lads for effort or desire, it was just that Fax were so much better. They were visibly faster and, perhaps more importantly, cleverer than us in their play. Some of the kicks they put in were of the utmost quality and it shows what we miss because we don't have that. Their defence during that first half period when we were camped on their line was awesome. We just don't seem to have the inventiveness to break down a well-drilled defence which is very frustrating.
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| I think one of the frustrating features of 2013 has been consistency - or lack of it. How can you square the win at Whitehaven or 34-0 trouncing of York (who had just beaten Featherstone the week before) with some of the other perplexingly poor games? Was it that we were so good or did we play some average teams who were having bad days? Let us hope that our performance up at Barrow is one of the handful of great games or it will be a long road home from Cumbria! I too would hate to see York or Barrow go out of the Championship. Two great clubs - but if it's us or them....
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| Quote ="Lawkholme Len"I think one of the frustrating features of 2013 has been consistency - or lack of it. How can you square the win at Whitehaven or 34-0 trouncing of York (who had just beaten Featherstone the week before) with some of the other perplexingly poor games? Was it that we were so good or did we play some average teams who were having bad days? Let us hope that our performance up at Barrow is one of the handful of great games or it will be a long road home from Cumbria! I too would hate to see York or Barrow go out of the Championship. Two great clubs - but if it's us or them....'"
Re consistency: what we have done consistently is fail to perform against any of the top sides. York and Swinton have beaten Featherstone, Barrow have beaten Halifax and I'm sure there have been more such unlikely results. We however have not had any of them; the highest placed teams we have beaten this season have been Whitehaven and Doncaster. We have very predictably lost to all the top teams both home and away. It's not good. We really should not be in the position we are in, having to go to North Lancashire and hope for the best. Yes, Barrow is Lancashire club. 'Cumbria' is a made-up, kid-on 'county' which isn't even as old as me.
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| I have to disagree. Wins against any oft he top teams would have been a bonus.
But more importantly what we haven't done is performed in games which we should have won:
Whitehaven at home 12-16 LOST
Swinton at home 10-20 LOST
Dewsbury away 18-10 LOST
Dewsbury at home 28-32 LOST
Workington away 28-18 LOST (yes it was the 2nd trip in 4 days to Cumbria)
Alright we got a bonus point in each of these matches but in my opinion there's 10 points gone in the above matches which we could and probably should have had.
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| Quote ="333"I have to disagree. Wins against any oft he top teams would have been a bonus.
But more importantly what we haven't done is performed in games which we should have won:
Whitehaven at home 12-16 LOST
Swinton at home 10-20 LOST
Dewsbury away 18-10 LOST
Dewsbury at home 28-32 LOST
Workington away 28-18 LOST (yes it was the 2nd trip in 4 days to Cumbria)
Alright we got a bonus point in each of these matches but in my opinion there's 10 points gone in the above matches which we could and probably should have had.'"
You have a point, but dual reg has made this season unpredictable since you don't know who you are playing against from one week to the next.
Leeds have said that their whole team is dual reg with Hunslet and either all or most of the Warrington team with Swinton. Both Workington and Dewsbury have made use of the system.
If you go on any of these teams forums after a lost match you will find fans moaning that they suffer without their D/R players.
Some teams must be in a poor state when they have had to rely on this system so quickly - they obviously see this as a do-or-die year.
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