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| Quote ="Nikaed"Yeah, it can be viewed both ways. Today's events will make the atmosphere even better. Like the old days when away fans got more tickets than the few thousand they get now. I'm fearing a Leeds type performance from us though.'"
On the trains and in the ground our lot will be bouncing hopefully after todays news.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"On the trains and in the ground our lot will be bouncing hopefully after todays news.'"
Are the tifo's coming with you?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Your right he's not done anything since coming 2nd with Newcastle but he success as a player and his 4 titles plus 2 FA Cups as manager is up there with the best.
He wanted the job before Roy came in because he felt he could do a better job then the names Purslow had on the list, its what Kenny wants he's ready for it 1989 really messed him up but this is his time again.'"
You are deluded.....I mentioned it in another post, but Dalglish's managerial record isn't the golden one that many Liverpool fans believe.
He was actually the catalyst for Liverpool's 90's demise, not Souness.....Souness just failed to stop the rot that was already in at Anfield.
At Blackburn (when they were THE big spenders in English football), he struggled to get them into the Premier League, then almost managed to throw away the title, when he had it sewn up months from the end.....He then had another of his blow-outs when the pressure got too much.
At Newcastle, he took on an exciting, free-flowing Keegan side and turned them into an awful-to-watch side, eventually leaving with little sympathy from the Toon faithful.
He was a fantastic player, no doubt, but coming back into management when you haven't done the job for over a decade is a massive high risk move......Just take a look what happened at Everton, when they attempted to turn back the clock to the glory days of the 80's with Howard Kendall....This appointment of Dalglish has a similar look to it.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Are the tifo's coming with you?'"
Who?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Who?'"
Those big flag things, might not be called Tifo's. The ones with european cups on.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"You are deluded.....I mentioned it in another post, but Dalglish's managerial record isn't the golden one that many Liverpool fans believe.
He was actually the catalyst for Liverpool's 90's demise, not Souness.....Souness just failed to stop the rot that was already in at Anfield.
At Blackburn (when they were THE big spenders in English football), he struggled to get them into the Premier League, then almost managed to throw away the title, when he had it sewn up months from the end.....He then had another of his blow-outs when the pressure got too much.
At Newcastle, he took on an exciting, free-flowing Keegan side and turned them into an awful-to-watch side, eventually leaving with little sympathy from the Toon faithful.
He was a fantastic player, no doubt, but coming back into management when you haven't done the job for over a decade is a massive high risk move......Just take a look what happened at Everton, when they attempted to turn back the clock to the glory days of the 80's with Howard Kendall....This appointment of Dalglish has a similar look to it.'"
Cheers for that.
Given how easy it seems to be this manager lark are you going to give it a whirl anytime soon? and can you give Roy Hodgson some tips
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Those big flag things, might not be called Tifo's. The ones with european cups on.'"
No doubt it.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Cheers for that.
Given how easy it seems to be this manager lark are you going to give it a whirl anytime soon? and can you give Roy Hodgson some tips
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Surely you understand where he's coming from though? Whether you agree with him or not a hell of a lot has changed since Kenny last managed a team. Even more has changed since he managed a team well. Kenny may well do brilliantly but I personally just can't see it.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Cheers for that.
Given how easy it seems to be this manager lark are you going to give it a whirl anytime soon? and can you give Roy Hodgson some tips
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I can fully understand your relief at Hodgson's dismissal and the appointment of a club legend like Dalglish, but seriously, what makes you so convinced that Kenny being in charge is a good thing?
I appreciate there will the inevitable short term uplift in spirits and results, which always seems to happen when a new manager comes in, but in reality, is Dalglish for Hodgson really any sort of improvement?
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| Quote ="El Pac Carnegie"Surely you understand where he's coming from though? Whether you agree with him or not a hell of a lot has changed since Kenny last managed a team. Even more has changed since he managed a team well. Kenny may well do brilliantly but I personally just can't see it.'"
Dalglish's managerial record isn't the golden one that many Liverpool fans believe
Nah can't say I can see where he's coming from.
Sounds like a bitter.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I can fully understand your relief at Hodgson's dismissal and the appointment of a club legend like Dalglish, but seriously, what makes you so convinced that Kenny being in charge is a good thing?
I appreciate there will the inevitable short term uplift in spirits and results, which always seems to happen when a new manager comes in, but in reality, is Dalglish for Hodgson really any sort of improvement?'"
Lift the players?
Use better tactics?
Players might actually play for him?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Lift the players?
Use better tactics?
Players might actually play for him?'"
I can accept that, but that can pretty much go for any manager you might bring in.....I'm just curious to know why a fella with no managerial work for over 10 years and over 20 since he was having any credible success should be wanted so much by the fans....If you brought in George Graham most of your fans would be appalled, yet he has similar, if not better qualifications to do the job than Dalglish.....Ultimately, in your desire to bring back the glory days, you have to be careful not to literally go back there and discover that the Golden times weren't quite the joyride you seem to think it was.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I can accept that, but that can pretty much go for any manager you might bring in.....I'm just curious to know why a fella with no managerial work for over 10 years and over 20 since he was having any credible success should be wanted so much by the fans....If you brought in George Graham most of your fans would be appalled, yet he has similar, if not better qualifications to do the job than Dalglish.....Ultimately, in your desire to bring back the glory days, you have to be careful not to literally go back there and discover that the Golden times weren't quite the joyride you seem to think it was.'"
Your not going to get [iit[/i
Mancs won't get [iit[/i
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Your not going to get [iit[/i
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So you admit that the appointment of Dalglish is simply pacifying the Anfield hordes who refuse to move on from the past?
Being a Wire fan you might recognise a similar thing happened at Wilderspool in the mid 90's, when we fetched back Alex Murphy to high acclaim from the Wire faithful.....Look how well that all ended up...
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"So you admit that the appointment of Dalglish is simply pacifying the Anfield hordes who refuse to move on from the past?
Being a Wire fan you might recognise a similar thing happened at Wilderspool in the mid 90's, when we fetched back Alex Murphy to high acclaim from the Wire faithful.....Look how well that all ended up...
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Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"If Dalglish struggles it will be the team Hodgson left him, when Hodgson struggled it wasn't Rafa left him. I don't think that will happen to be honest as I think the players and club will be galvanised by Dalglish.'"
You simply don't take a job if you aren't happy with those you have to manage. If Roy didn't want those players, then he shouldn't have taken the job. Same applies with Kenny, but I feel Kenny knows how to get more from this lot than Roy.
However, I don't believe we'll make many moves in this transfer market, although I do feel Kenny has a better understanding of where we want to go, particularly after working at the academy for the past few years.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.'"
Whether the past is 1 year ago or 20 years ago, its always the past.....You need to be looking forward and Dalglish is definitely not that..He's a reminder of when times may have been better, but ultimately it was another era entirely....Its a rose tinted appointment, pandering to the nostalgics.
You need a ONeill to steady your ship and get you back on track, or for a truly fresh start you wouldn't go far wrong bringing in somebody like Owen Coyle, who would be a complete break from the past, both recent or distant.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.'"
No trophies for 4 years though Luke. Not good enough for a club of Liverpools stature.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Whether the past is 1 year ago or 20 years ago, its always the past.....You need to be looking forward and Dalglish is definitely not that..He's a reminder of when times may have been better, but ultimately it was another era entirely....Its a rose tinted appointment, pandering to the nostalgics.
You need a ONeill to steady your ship and get you back on track, or for a truly fresh start you wouldn't go far wrong bringing in somebody like Owen Coyle, who would be a complete break from the past, both recent or distant.'"
You do know the King is only here until May don't you? we will then likely still get well beaten tomorrow but atleast we have something to look forward to and he can lift this team until May.
Last time I heard the words steady and ship ended with some clueless biff nearly sinking it.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"No trophies for 4 years though Luke. Not good enough for a club of Liverpools stature.'"
People like Mark Bright and Lawie Sanchez disagree.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"You do know the King is only here until May don't you? we will then likely still get well beaten tomorrow but atleast we have something to look forward to and he can lift this team until May.
Last time I heard the words steady and ship ended with some clueless biff nearly sinking it.'"
The King
*cringe*
Bit harsh calling Benitez a clueless biff. Nearly did the same to Inter but they got rid before he really fcked them up.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"The King
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Bit harsh calling Benitez a clueless biff. Nearly did the same to Inter but they got rid before he really fcked them up.'"
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| Quote ="Wire_85"People like Mark Bright and Lawie Sanchez disagree.'"
Those footballing Gods. Sorry, I apologise. .
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| Quote ="Nikaed"Those footballing Gods. Sorry, I apologise. .'"
Its okay I agree with you Mark.
People like Bright said we had reached our level and Hodgson was doing no wrong.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Its okay I agree with you Mark.
People like Bright said we had reached our level and Hodgson was doing no wrong.'"
Merson had it spot on.
They have Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and Torres probably one of the best spines around. It's players around them that are awful. Glen Johnson..if he was to be put on the transfer list, who'd buy him? He can't defend for toffee. Surpisingly Phil Thompson actually spoke alot of sense r.e Hodgson and was very fair. Who would you like long term?
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