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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Could be heavy rain and on a street circuit like that it could be more dangerous than usual.'"
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| Absolutely disagraceful! Is he holier than thou or something? I think the 222 racing clubs who protested this sordid affair ought to boycott hosting FIA affiliated races until that son of a Nazi resigns!
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| Quote ="Wakefieldite"Absolutely disagraceful!
Is he holier than thou or something? I think the 222 racing clubs who protested this sordid affair ought to boycott hosting FIA affiliated races until that son of a Nazi resigns!'"
Rubbish.
What consenting adults do together is nobody else's business – or are you suggesting that we start censoring people's fantasy and sex lives just because you don't like it or some guttercrawling rag tells you it's not nice?
The only argument for publication to be in the public interest would be if he's used his position to tell everyone else how to behave in their private lives. So I hope he screws (so to speak) the [iNews of the Screws[/i for every possible penny.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jun/05/secondworldwar.fashionComment here – and a very good one it is too[/url.
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| He never needed to go anyway.
I don't agree or like what he did but as Minty said, that's his personally life.
Until it damages his work, which he does extremely well IMO, then there is no need to "sack" him.
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| Some automobile clubs don't want anything to do with Mosley after his private whipping sessions.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Some automobile clubs don't want anything to do with Mosley after his private whipping sessions.'"
Be fair - it's only the likes of the Americans, French, German, etc associations. The likes of Bukina Faso, Mongolia and Peru are still firmly behind him.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Some automobile clubs don't want anything to do with Mosley after his private whipping sessions.'"
They're as hypocritical as the rag that ran the story – perhaps they'll check all their own members and officials for similar sexual fantasies and acts. And then, when they find that they aren't all just having heterosexual, monogamous, married vanilla sex, but are not breaking any law in the country in which they're carrying out these fantasies, and there is no public-interest argument for these acts and fantasies to be made public, they'll pipe down.
The German association, I'm afraid, is playing a predictable: 'oh god, someone mentioned the Nazis, therefore we'd better be against it or we'll be accused of, err, being Nazis' card.
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| Quote ="Mintball"They're as hypocritical as the rag that ran the story – perhaps they'll check all their own members and officials for similar sexual fantasies and acts. And then, when they find that they aren't all just having heterosexual, monogamous, married vanilla sex, but are not breaking any law in the country in which they're carrying out these fantasies, and there is no public-interest argument for these acts and fantasies to be made public, they'll pipe down.
The German association, I'm afraid, is playing a predictable: 'oh god, someone mentioned the Nazis, therefore we'd better be against it or we'll be accused of, err, being Nazis' card.'"
Or maybe they're just looking at the bottom line. No matter what the rights and wrongs of the whole affair, if sponsors start pulling out then Mosley's a lame duck president.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Or maybe they're just looking at the bottom line. No matter what the rights and wrongs of the whole affair, if sponsors start pulling out then Mosley's a lame duck president.'"
Then the sponsors are hypocritical shîts too.
This story should never have been made public.
It is nobody else's business what consenting adults get up to in private. It is nobody else's business what other adults' sexual fantasies are and whether or not they act them out (assuming no laws are broken).
No laws were broken.
Mosley has not spent time in the public eye telling other people what to do in their private lives.
There is absolutely no way whatsoever that all the people involved in the various automobile clubs, the sponsors' companies etc are all monogamous, married, heterosexual and vanilla. Simple as.
It's a non-story. And all this flailing of hands just plays into the hands of shîtty rags such as the [iNews of the Screw[/i. If they are sued out of business when Mosley gets them to court, the world would be a better place.
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| Got to admit i agree with Mintball.
It has no relevance to his job at all.
If this was anybody else doing such things (as in a normal not "famous" person) it would be a complete non issue.
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| Quote ="Mintball"Then the sponsors are hypocritical shîts too.
This story should never have been made public.
It is nobody else's business what consenting adults get up to in private. It is nobody else's business what other adults' sexual fantasies are and whether or not they act them out (assuming no laws are broken).
No laws were broken.
Mosley has not spent time in the public eye telling other people what to do in their private lives.
There is absolutely no way whatsoever that all the people involved in the various automobile clubs, the sponsors' companies etc are all monogamous, married, heterosexual and vanilla. Simple as.
It's a non-story. And all this flailing of hands just plays into the hands of shîtty rags such as the [iNews of the Screw[/i. If they are sued out of business when Mosley gets them to court, the world would be a better place.'"
The sponsors would pull out because they don't want to be "tainted" by the scandal. They only do this because they fear a drop in sales because they are "guilty" by association. So, I suppose we can add the public to the list of hypocrites as well. I think we've now managed to cover pretty much the whole world and we're still left with the same bottom line, Mosley is now a lame duck president. Money talks, and in this case there's no other solution than Mosley walks.
Is it a non-story? Obviously not. What is the story? In my opinion it's now moved on from the original stuff printed in the News of the World.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"The sponsors would pull out because they don't want to be "tainted" by the scandal. They only do this because they fear a drop in sales because they are "guilty" by association. So, I suppose we can add the public to the list of hypocrites as well...'"
Indeed. Not least all the pathetic individuals who buy the kind of crud that the [iScrews[/i publishes, so that they can be titilated and then justify their titilation by being censorious.
Quote ="Lord_Percy"... I think we've now managed to cover pretty much the whole world and we're still left with the same bottom line, Mosley is now a lame duck president. Money talks, and in this case there's no other solution than Mosley walks...'"
The thing is, he can't go. At least not yet. He has to wait for the court case.
Quote ="Lord_Percy"... Is it a non-story? Obviously not. What is the story? In my opinion it's now moved on from the original stuff printed in the News of the World.'"
Yes, it's still a non-story. What consenting adults do together is a non-story. I do know what you're meaning, but what has happened since the publication does not alter the fact of what has triggered this being a non-story.
I suspect that. after the court case, he'll go. But he'll go having been vindicated in terms of any judgement over privacy etc. The rags in question really do need a kicking. St Conroy says that, if it were ordinary people, they wouldn't publish – the trouble is, they do. That's what a lot of these gossip magazines are full of – so-called 'ordinary' people's stories.
To simply go now would be to give in to the rag in question and to the burgeoning culture of gossip and mind-dead cr@p this is reaching epidemic proportions in the UK.
Whatever the covering idiots at assorted automobile associations think, the moral thing is to bloody well back him up.
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| One thing that has puzzled me throughout all of this is what is a Nazi style orgy? How does it differ from the more traditional orgy, as often featured in "art house documentaries"? Do you have to shave your intimate areas so that just a little moustache shaped area of hair remains?
These are important questions people, we deserve an answer!
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| We've had a talk about it here at work and we think it involves Herr Flick and Helga.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"We've had a talk about it here at work and we think it involves Herr Flick and Helga.'"
The opinion piece that I linked to earlier had it down to a T though. Whatever it constituted, it was a fantasy, acted out by consenting adults.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Got to admit i agree with Mintball.
It has no relevance to his job at all.
If this was anybody else doing such things (as in a normal not "famous" person) it would be a complete non issue.'"
I agree as well.
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| i don't agree with what he did. But honestly. Who do we have too replace him.
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| the reason for this.
Max mosley is out of office in november 2009 with a strong possibility he won't be re elected.
BUT.
The reg's that he has put into place mean that none of the regulations can not be changed until atleast 2012.
So what can the new president do too enhance f1 for the future.
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| Quote ="wire2004"i don't agree with what he did. But honestly. Who do we have too replace him.'"
Bernie can do both jobs.
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| David Coulthard will retire from F1 at the end of this season.
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| Aye, cheers DC - keep your chin up...
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"David Coulthard will retire from F1 at the end of this season.'"
Damn, I'll miss him saying at the start of each season that "this can be my year" before being soundly thrashed by Hakkinen/Schumacher/Alonso/etc etc etc
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Aye, cheers DC - keep your chin up...
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