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| Seattle have to be the worst team ever to qualify for the play-offs(not even counting the losing record).
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Gutted in a way but on reflection going from 3-13 to 10-6 is a great way to go. I'm cursing that loss against Detroit though.'"
Quite suprised that the Rams didn't manage to pull of the win. They are a decent young team and with how bad the west is 8 or 9 wins may win you the division for the next few years. I think you could do with a big reciever for Bradford.
The Bucs have also had a great season. The fact that they nearly made the play-offs yet only beat 1 "good" team isn't their fault. It is the fault of us and NY, we should have won more of our own games (Miami and Detroit spring to mind for me) then the Bucs wouldn't be in consideration. They have improved significantly and done what they should, beat the teams they should (teams with losing records/.500) and taken the others close. The fact that made them 10-6 doesn't matter.
I'm a fan of the Bucs and i think they will be very good in a few years. Mike Williams IMO is the clear ROY. (although i expect it to go to Bradford)
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Quite suprised that the Rams didn't manage to pull of the win. They are a decent young team and with how bad the west is 8 or 9 wins may win you the division for the next few years. I think you could do with a big reciever for Bradford.
The Bucs have also had a great season. The fact that they nearly made the play-offs yet only beat 1 "good" team isn't their fault. It is the fault of us and NY, we should have won more of our own games (Miami and Detroit spring to mind for me) then the Bucs wouldn't be in consideration. They have improved significantly and done what they should, beat the teams they should (teams with losing records/.500) and taken the others close. The fact that made them 10-6 doesn't matter.
I'm a fan of the Bucs and i think they will be very good in a few years. Mike Williams IMO is the clear ROY. (although i expect it to go to Bradford)'"
The playoffs and division for us was all on that Eagle meltdown. Coughlin got extension.
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| 11 carries for Jackson, tells you all you need to know about the farce that was our play calling last night.
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| Seattle shoot themselves in the foot by winning IMO. Instead of picking at #8, they'll pick at #21 at the lowest.
Nice to see I won the fantasy league, I believe I told you all about the £100 entry fee where winner takes all.
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| [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/30604/2011-nfc-west-opponents-setOur 2011 opponents.[/url Looks like this season was our big chance for the playoffs. Don't fancy us at all against that schedule.
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| Our opponents are
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| Quote ="Dodo"Seattle shoot themselves in the foot by winning IMO. Instead of picking at #8, they'll pick at #21 at the lowest.
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Like Herm Edwards said "You play to win the game". To be honest I would have rather we lost last night, it's highly likely we are one and done against the Saints.
The Rams play calling was bizarre to say the least, Seattle's D has given up more big plays than anybody else this season. All the Rams wanted to do was throw swing passes and 5 yard slants.
This will lead to the NFL changing the rules with regards qualifying for the play offs.
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| Quote ="WBFOP"
This will lead to the NFL changing the rules with regards qualifying for the play offs.'"
I really hope they don't. It'd ruin the concept of divisions if it was just the best 6 records made it in.
One idea which i read (i can't remember where, i think it was on a different forum) was that your record just alterred your seeding rather than the actual qualification for the play-offs which i think is OK if they are going to alter the system.
So the division winners and two others with the highest record (Wildcard) are in the play-offs but then your seed is soley based on your record.
This causes problems though where a division winner has a worse record than a wildcard, like this year. It's unfair for a division winner to have to play a road game against a wildcard winner.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"
One idea which i read (i can't remember where, i think it was on a different forum) was that your record just alterred your seeding rather than the actual qualification for the play-offs which i think is OK if they are going to alter the system
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I think thats what they will do. No one is saying division winners with crap records should not be in the playoffs just that the 4 division winners and 2 wildcard should be seeded by records, for instance the Seahawks wouldn`t be a higher seed than the Saints because the Saints record is far superior.
There`s a lot of arguments for and against but I reckon they will change the rules
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| Change the divisions.
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Tampa(not that east but ish)
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St Louis( I know not south geographically)
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| They shouldn't change anything. FFS, it's happened once in the history of the NFL. You win your division, you should get a home game. If they really want to change the seeding then they should factor in strength of schedule. Why should a team jump above another one with a better record just because they have a better record when they've played a cupcake schedule? I know that both us and Seattle have had a fairly easy schedule this season anyway but All this stuff about changing things is yet another knee jerk reaction to something that might not even happen again for years anyway.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"They shouldn't change anything. FFS, it's happened once in the history of the NFL. You win your division, you should get a home game. If they really want to change the seeding then they should factor in strength of schedule. Why should a team jump above another one with a better record just because they have a better record when they've played a cupcake schedule? I know that both us and Seattle have had a fairly easy schedule this season anyway but All this stuff about changing things is yet another knee jerk reaction to something that might not even happen again for years anyway.'"
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I reckon another 10-6 season but could be 9-7 or 11-5 for me.
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| Quote ="LFCPatriotRhino"[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81d6d737/article/manginis-turbulent-tenure-with-browns-comes-to-an-end?module=HP_headlines2colMangini has been booted[/url
I reckon John Gruden`s best mate Mike Holmgren will be on the phone if he hasn`t already'"
They should have given him one more season IMO. They kind of faltered towards the end of the year but they're putting together a decent offense. With a decent draft they could be a decent team next season.
Still, not as bad as Tom Cable being fired which is ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Adamjk"They should have given him one more season IMO. They kind of faltered towards the end of the year but they're putting together a decent offense. With a decent draft they could be a decent team next season.
Still, not as bad as Tom Cable being fired which is ridiculous.'"
He`s had 2 years and has done naff all , at least in Oaklands case they look like they are improving whereas the Browns are not again IMO
The Browns seem to be the same every year so getting a Superbowl winning coach like Gruden or even Holmgren himself can only help
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| Quote ="LFCPatriotRhino"Seattle have to be the worst team ever to qualify for the play-offs(not even counting the losing record).'"
As i have a interest in the Seahawks it would be difficult to disagree with your statement...But the fans are something else
They got behind their team when it mattered, poor team maybe but the fans are brilliant...no glory hunters there
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Lions W
Colts L
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Panthers W
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7-9 for me. A few could go either way maybe squek out anonther 10-6 like you said. Injuries etc can hit a team.
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â—¦Washington Redskins WIN
â—¦Philadelphia Eagles LOSS
â—¦St. Louis Rams WIN
â—¦Seattle Seahawks WIN
â—¦Buffalo Bills WIN
â—¦Miami Dolphins WIN
â—¦Green Bay Packers LOSS
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â—¦Washington Redskins WIN
â—¦Philadelphia Eagles LOSS
â—¦Arizona Cardinals WIN
â—¦San Francisco 49ers WIN
â—¦New England Patriots LOSS
â—¦New York Jets WIN
â—¦New Orleans Saints LOSS
10-6 for us again. Got some hard teams in there. With the exception of the NFC West. Although I expect huuge improvement in most of them.
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| Quote ="Mark"[uHOME[/u
7-9 for me. A few could go either way maybe squek out anonther 10-6 like you said. Injuries etc can hit a team.'"
Yeah, tell us about it. Weve been killed by injuries this year. I would have liked to have seen what we could have done with a full season out of McCoy and Talib. They made a big diference been out the last month. Losng Cody Grimm too. Looking forward to getting TJax back too. We should have a cracking team next season with a few additions. Think we had 11 players out yeterday. Anyway theres no way we will lose all 4 games against the Saints and Atlanta. Ill go for a split and say:
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Panthers W
Saints W
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Lions W
Colts L
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| Quote ="Adamjk"They shouldn't change anything. FFS, it's happened once in the history of the NFL. You win your division, you should get a home game. If they really want to change the seeding then they should factor in strength of schedule. Why should a team jump above another one with a better record just because they have a better record when they've played a cupcake schedule? I know that both us and Seattle have had a fairly easy schedule this season anyway but All this stuff about changing things is yet another knee jerk reaction to something that might not even happen again for years anyway.'"
I agree entirely.
I don't think it should be changed at all. It is a shame that some good teams miss out but they have 3 spots they can get (you can win your division or get 1 of 2 wildcard spots) if they can't do that then tough.
If a team is poor, in relation to the other play-off teams, then them making the play-offs and having a home game is irrelvant as the wildcard will be good enough to beat them.
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In the first round I have picked
QB- Drew Brees
RB`s- LeSean McCoy-Ray Rice
WR`s- Reggie Wayne-Marques Colston
TE- Jacob Tamme
K- David Akers
DEF- Saints
I think you can set up a league but not 100% sure
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