The 1st of many players to get injured in the next month,I say it every year but training camp and pre season is too long.

Training camp is fine by me. It builds team cohesion and all your new plays are installed etc.

Pre-season is pointless. Playing your starters for 1 drive per game and then 1 half in the final game is terrible. Doesn't even reflect anything. IIRC Detroit went 4-0 in pre-seson before they went 0-16 in the season.

Maclin and DeSean Jackson were apparently carted off the field the other day at Eagles training camp also. (I think they are both OK).

Not exactly gona say "he's good but Eli was better" is he?

Birmingham Lions' O-Line coach is spending training Camp with Seattle.

Glad I've not got to play against them this... oh wait I do.

New season almost here. Let's have a season preview off each of you for your teams. Will do mine over weekend as in work. Let's have award predictions and our teams record predictions and we'll drag them up in Feb and see how we did.

=#0000FFNew England Patriots

=#0040FFKey players:
Offence: Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker
Defence: Vince Wilfork, Brandon Merriweather, Jerod Mayo

=#0000FFRookies to watch:
Offence: Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski
Defence: Brandon Spikes, Jermaine Cunningham

=#0040FFKey games:
Oct. 24: at San Diego, 4:15 p.m.
Nov. 21: Indianapolis, 4:15 p.m.
Dec. 6: Jets, 8:30 p.m.

=#0040FFStrengths:
Passing game
Young, talented D
Coaching

=#0000FFWeaknesses:
Left guard

Running back

=#0000FFThoughts:
Exciting draft with 12 picks, the team have retooled on both sides of the ball and added a new weapon to the armoury with punter Zoltan Mesko, booming 60 yard left footed punts throughout training camp. The offensive side of the ball looks really exciting, and if the O line can perform, has the potential to put up 2007esque numbers with Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Brandon Tate, Taylor Price, Rob Gronkowski, Alge Crumpler and Aaron Hernandez performing well so far in camp, and veteran receiver Torry Holt.

The defence excites me, as it has the potential to be top 5, Brandon Spikes and Tyrone McKenzie will bring a tough, no nonsense style at inside linebacker next to 3rd year pro, Jerod Mayo. 2nd year safety Pat Chung has been vocal in training camp, along with Spikes firing the team up - Chung has greatly improved on his coverage skills and has picked Brady off a few times, exciting times for the D.

I'm really looking forward to this season, and can see it being successful, the record will totally depend on how the young players contribute however.

=#0000FFMy Predicted 53 man roster:
Offence (25):
QB: Tom Brady, Brian Hoyer (2)
RB: Laurence Maroney, Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, Kevin Faulk (4)
WR: Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman, Torry Holt, Brandon Tate, Taylor Price (6)
TE: Alge Crumpler, Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski (3)
OL: Matt Light, Sebastian Vollmer, Dan Connolly, Nick Kaczur, Dan Koppen, Ted Ln, Rich Ohrenberger, Mark LeVoir, Stephen Neal (9)

Defence (23):
DL: Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren, Gerrard Warren, Mike Wright, Myron Pryor, Brandon Deaderick, Damione Lewis (7)
OLB: Tully Banta-Cain, Jermaine Cunningham, Rob Ninkovich (3)
ILB: Jerod Mayo, Gary Guyton, Tyrone McKenzie, Brandon Spikes (4)
CB: Leigh Bodden, Darius Butler, Devin McCourty, Jonathan Wilhite, Kyle Arrington (5)
S: Brandon Merriweather, Pat Chung, James Sanders, Brandon McGowan (4)

Special teams (5):
K: Stephen Gostkowski
P: Zoltan Mesko
LS: Jake Ingram
ST: Sam Aiken, Matthew Slater

=#0000FFPredictions:
Tom Brady: 42 TD's, 10 INT's, 4570 yards
Brandon Spikes: 45 tackles, 5 sacks, 2 INT's, 2 forced fumbles, 1 TD

Record: 12-4 if rookies perform like they are in TC, 10-6 if not - AFC East winners

No JaMarcus Russell so you'll do much better with Jason Campbell as QB.

Nice preview

Oakland Raiders

Key players:
Offence: Jason Campbell, Michael Bush, Louis Murphy
Defence: Richard Seymour, Rolando McClain, Nnamdi Asomugha

Rookies to watch:
Offence: Jared Veldheer, Jacoby Ford
Defence: Rolando McClain, Lamarr Houston

Key games: Anything against SD/Denver/KC

Strengths:
Front 7
Running Game
Not Jamarcus

Weaknesses:
Secondary outside Nnamdi
O-Line depth
Unproven recievers

Thoughts: One of the best draft weekends in the league, Al appears to have passed his days of madness with solid picks in the first 3 rounds, before taking the potential freaks. Could be the year we return to greatness, every story needs a villain

My Predicted 53 man roster:
Offence [26:
QB: Jason Campbell, Bruce Gradkowski, Kyle Boller [3
RB: Michael Bush, Darren McFadden, Rock Campbell, Michael Bennett, Luke Lawton [5
WR: Louis Murphy, DHB, Johnnie Lee-Higgins, Chaz Schilens, Jacoby Ford, [5
TE: Zach Miller, Tony Stewart, Brandon Myers [3
OL: Khalif Barnes, Bruce Campbell, Cooper Carlisle, Samson Satele, Robert Gallery, Jared Veldheer, Mario Henderson, Langston Walker, Chris Morris [10

Defence [23:
DL: Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly, Desmond Bryant, John Henderson, Jay Richardson, Matt Shaunnessy, Greyson Gunheim [7
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley, Thomas Howard, Trevor Scott, Quentin Groves, Sam Williams [5
ILB: Rolando McClain, Ricky Brown [2
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Johnson, Stanford Routt, Walter McFadden, Jeremy Ware [5
S:
K: Sebastian Janikowski
P: Shane Lechler
LS: Jon Condo
ST: Travis Goethel

Predictions:
Top 10 D

Record: 9-7 and Playoffs

Can't be d to do a full one of these for the Rams so I'll leave it to the far more knowledgeable Adamjk. Think we will get 5 wins though, almost doubling our win tally for the last two years combined!

[uGreen Bay Packers[/u

[uKey Players:[/u
Offence- Aaron Rodgers, Whoever is LT, Jermichael Finley
Defence- Charles Woodson, Nick Collins, Clay Matthews

[uRookies to Watch:[/u
Offence- Andrew Quarless TE. Believed to be the next Finley. Physically he is a mismatch against defences.
Defence- Morgan Burnett SS. Will be starting over from Nick Collins, having taken over from Bigby.

[uKey Games:[/u
Week 1: @ Eagles- Set our stall out early.
Week 7: Vikes- Only if Favre stays. A-Rod needs to get one over on him
Week 9: Cowboys
Week 15 @ Patriots

[uStrength:[/u
Passing attack
One of the best defenses in the league

[uWeakness:[/u
O-Line (was improved in the 2nd half of last year)
Secondary depth (aside from the starters we are really weak)
Special Teams

[uThoughts:[/u
We have a very good shot at our divison whether Favre is back or not. If we manage to keep Rodgers protected, which improved greatly when we brought back Tausch and Clifton after the Tampa and now with the drafting of Bulaga, offence is no problem at all. We have one of the best QB's, one of the best WR core's, talented TE's and a decent RB. O-Line holds the fate of our offence.

On D we have a very good starting unit who in the first year of a 34 last year were number 1 against the run despite playing AP twice every year and were very high in all other categories. Thats without mentioning the Defensive Player of the Year. The big big problem we have is that we have utter tripe as back-ups at CB and S like Jarrett Bush and Will Blackmon and when we got injuries we then struggled against 4 and 5 wides. Keep starters fit and we'll be OK.

Special teams we are pretty rubbish.

[u53 Man Roster:[/u

Offence (25)
QB- Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn (2)
RB- Ryan Grant, Brandon Jackson, James Starks *R*, Kregg Lumpkin (4)
FB- Korey Hall, Quinn Johnson (2)
WR- Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Brett Swain (5)
TE- Jermichael Finley, Donald Lee, Andrew Quarless *R*, Spencer Havner (4)
OL- Mark Tauscher, Daryn Colledge, Scott Wells, Josh Sitton, Chad Clifton, Jason Spitz, Bryan Bulaga *R*, Marshall Newhouse *R* (icon_cool.gif

Defence (25)
DL- Ryan Pickett, BJ Raji, Cullen Jenkins, Justin Harrell, Mike Neal *R*, CJ Wilson *R*, Jarrius Wynn (7)
ILB- Nick Barnett, AJ Hawk, Desmond Bishop (3)
OLB- Clay Matthews, Brad Jones, Brandon Chillar, Brady Poppinga (4)
CB- Charles Woodson, Al Harris, Tramon Williams, Brandon Underwood, Pat Lee, Jarrett Bush (6)
S-Nick Collins, Morgan Burnett *R*, Atari Bigby, Derrick Martin, Will Blackmon (5)

Special Teams (3)
K-Mason Crosby
P- Tim Masthay
LS- Brett Goode

[uPredictions:[/u
Aaron Rodgers MVP
Morgan Burnett in with a shout of DROY
Top 10 D

[uRecord:[/u
We have a really tough schedule this year playing the AFC East and NFC East along with Atlanta and San Fran.

I fancy us to get between 10 and 13 wins so i'll go for 12-4. Winning the division, number 2 NFC seed.

I've really not been paying that much attention this off season so I'm not sure myself what's been going on to be honest

I still think we'll be terrible but being in the NFC West that doesn't necessarily mean we won't pick up a few more wins this season. I'm in 'excited that pre-season is here' mode which will soon disappear after the first week of games, before the excitement returns on opening weekend.

Anyone know where I can Download old NFL games online from the last couple of seasons?

Cheers

Come on Jets give Revis what he wants. As much as he's been a c**k about it, i honestly think it could be our year this season but we need Revis. Best CB in the league by far imo

Paying Revis the 20m a year he wants will put the Jets in cap hell, the next salary cap is apparently heading for 100m, so Revis on 20m, Scott on the 6-7 he's on, Sanchez is on 9 or so, 35% of the salary cap on 3 players isn't a good thing at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up getting traded somewhere crap like Cleveland for a load of picks (or picks + Cribbs)

Charles Woodson says hello!



No CB is worth that amount of money, least of all one who has only performed at that level for one season. Do it next year Revis if you maintain the same level

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Revis
Asomugha
Woodson

The New York Football Giants

QB- Eli Manning, Jim Sorgi, Rhett Bomar.
RB-Jacobs, Bradshaw, Ware, Brown
FB- Hedgecock
WR-Smith, Nicks, Manningham, Moss, Barden, Hagan
TE-Boss, Beckum, Pascoe
C-O'hara, Koets
G-Snee, Seubert, Boothe, Bender
T-Diehl, Mackenzie,Beatty, Whimper

DE-Tuck, Osi, Pierre-paul, Kiwanuka, Tollefsen
DT-Cofield,Alford,Bernard,Canty, Joseph
OLB-Boley, Sintim, Kehl, Blackburn, Goff
MLB-Bulluck, Wilkinson, Dillard
CB-Webster, Ross, Thomas,B Johnson, D Johnson
FS-Rolle, Johnson
SS-Phillips, Grant

K-Tynes
P-Dodge
KR-Moss or Ross.

Offense-

It look's like Eli is still developing, he still doesn't have as much leadership as his brother but he's growing all the time. Coordinator Kevin Gilbride gives eli full audible powers. Gilbride also trusts Manning’s rifle arm in critical situations and supports the risks he takes when things break down. We need to get our O-Line firing again as well, they were one of the leagues best a few years back, there very important in regaing our power running game.

Defence

The Giants are banking on a reinvigorated pass-rush in 2010. It’s hard to see how our pass-rush won’t be reinvigorated. Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora and Jason Pierre-Paul are all talented enough to be a No. 1 end on a typical team. Tuck is by far the best all-around of the bunch In fact, he’s by far the best all-around left end in the entire league. But for pure pass-rushing, Umenyiora is the best. It's also great to have Phillips back and if healthy could turn into one opf the leagues best, We probably overpaid for Rolle btu he's add playmaking ability. Bulluck was a very shrewd signing and will provide leadership to a young LB crew.

I'm going to go for a 10-6 record and a wildcard berth. ROAD WARRIORS.

What a plonker he looks.

Woodson
Asomugha
Revis

Colt Brennan signs with the Raiders, could be a contender for the #3 QB job I think. We dont really have a project qb.

2 more Ws for Lancashire and we go through to the playoffs.