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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Not for the impact of arguably the most well known and popular footballer's ever to play the game? Not to have one of the passes of ball ever to be able to come off the bench and change a game? or not for the commercial/marketing aspect that it could have on Spurs?
There's nothing odd or disturbing about it, I can't see how Spurs could lose out in this?'"
Sorry, but Modric is a far better passer of the ball than Beckham, whilst I could make a strong argument that Huddlestone is better, too.
The commercial impact is good, yes, but the last things Spurs need are distractions. They've got a great squad playing great football, they should just stay focused on winning games, without the added drivel that Beckham brings.
Looking at Spurs' squad, they have a great set of players in pretty much every position, whilst bringing Beckham back to England would be romantic, he was looking off the pace at his last loan in Serie A, there's just no way he has the legs to keep up in England, particularly with Spurs' favoured counter-attacking styled.
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| David Beckham is worth signing by any club in the world. Doesn't matter how good he is or isn't (I reckon he's still pretty good to be fair to him, but perhaps better suited to the continent than to huffing and puffing with the Blackpool and Blackburn's of this world) the financial impact of signing Mr Beckham cannot be underestimated.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"David Beckham is worth signing by any club in the world. Doesn't matter how good he is or isn't (I reckon he's still pretty good to be fair to him, but perhaps better suited to the continent than to huffing and puffing with the Blackpool and Blackburn's of this world) the financial impact of signing Mr Beckham cannot be underestimated.'"
For four or five months?
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Sorry, but Modric is a far better passer of the ball than Beckham, whilst I could make a strong argument that Huddlestone is better, too.
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Are you having a giraffe? Modric's distribution is nowhere near the quality of Beckham, especially the long/cross-field or diagonal ball. Huddleston has a decent long or diagonal ball, but neither of them could get anywhere near the accuracy of Beckham, nowhere near - on long or short passing!
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Sorry, but Modric is a far better passer of the ball than Beckham, whilst I could make a strong argument that Huddlestone is better, too.'"
Completely disagree tbh mate, Beckham is a much better passer of the ball than Modric, as for Huddleston those words shouldn't even be put in the same sentence. As I said, Beckham is one of the best distributors of the ball ever to play the game, every team could do with some who can play a ball as well as Beckham can.
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"The commercial impact is good, yes, but the last things Spurs need are distractions. They've got a great squad playing great football, they should just stay focused on winning games, without the added drivel that Beckham brings.'"
It's not Beckham's fault he's surrounded by press wherever he goes though. I don't really see how it would distract Spurs' players if Beckham is appearing in papers and on TV quite often, I've never got this excuse when it goes wrong for teams. It's just a myth for me.
Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Looking at Spurs' squad, they have a great set of players in pretty much every position, whilst bringing Beckham back to England would be romantic, he was looking off the pace at his last loan in Serie A, there's just no way he has the legs to keep up in England, particularly with Spurs' favoured counter-attacking styled.'"
Spurs do have a great squad and have every position covered which is why Beckham would be more of an impact player off the bench. Who better to play a ball in to Crouch or hit a free kick goalwards than Beckham, no one in Spurs' squad could dream of hitting a free kick like Beckham. Was he not carrying injuries when he played for Milan though? He's one of the fittest footballers around in his age group, he'd easily be able to keep up with football in the Premier League.
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| Quote ="Mike Oxlong"Are you having a giraffe? Modric's distribution is nowhere near the quality of Beckham, especially the long/cross-field or diagonal ball. Huddleston has a decent long or diagonal ball, but neither of them could get anywhere near the accuracy of Beckham, nowhere near - on long or short passing!'"
Deary deary me. Beckham has a great long, cross-field ball, but Modric has one of the best short passing games out of any player in the league. In terms of true creativity and vision, only Silva and Fabregas better him IMO. Beckham really isn't so great, he will forever live off his reputation, but he's not been at the top level for years now.
The only thing Beckham would bring to Spurs would be experience, they don't need a set piece taker, they don't need someone who can cross, they don't need someone who can pass, they don't really need a showbiz boost for four months, they just need to get on with how they're playing, with any player coming in being someone they can rely on in the future, not for a few months.
As for Dan's 'don't get how it would affect the squad'. It's simple, if Spurs have a great team chemistry working and their players are gelling a real 'group' mentality, the last thing they need is some huge fish coming in and stealing all of the limelight. It sounds daft, but if everything's going well, why spoil it for a four month fix of a player who is well past his best, a player that struggled with the tempo of Serie A games last year? It only makes sense from a commercial point of view, but Spurs really shouldn't be distracting themselves with drivel like that in the middle of the club's most pivotal season.
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| Dan FC, I thought, with you being an Evertonian, you'd be able to recall the Ginola/Gazza era and the fantastic impact that on Everton??....
Yes, Beckham may be a lot fitter than those two were, but match fit??.....I could understand a Blackburn or Bolton taking him on for commercial impact, but Tottenham??....For 9 games max??
As others have said, he would be a distraction they don't need, for little reward.....Personally, I see West Ham having a punt with him.
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'David Beckham Goals, Passes + Assists 1998/1999'
granted that is a long time ago - but watch that and tell me Modric and Huddlestone are better
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Dan FC, I thought, with you being an Evertonian, you'd be able to recall the Ginola/Gazza era and the fantastic impact that on Everton??....
Yes, Beckham may be a lot fitter than those two were, but match fit??.....I could understand a Blackburn or Bolton taking him on for commercial impact, but Tottenham??....For 9 games max??
As others have said, he would be a distraction they don't need, for little reward.....Personally, I see West Ham having a punt with him.'"
Funily enough we were only discussing these two playing for us in work today. I remember it all too well, players on the very wrong end of their careers when we signed them. I remember Gazza destroying Leyton Orient in FA Cup and Ginola coming off the bench against Arsenal, I think his first appearance, and hitting the post with a 25 yard free kick. For me, yes, Beckham will be match fit, as I said previously he's someone who's always been in the peak of fitness during his career and he'd easily cope in PL, tbh if he wasn't I don't think he'd bother. I still don't agree he'd be a distraction, of course he'd get the media hype but he's not a player with a big ego that's going to walk in and upset things by any means. His experience will be invaluable to Spurs and his ability should never be questioned.
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Funily enough we were only discussing these two playing for us in work today. I remember it all too well, players on the very wrong end of their careers when we signed them. I remember Gazza destroying Leyton Orient in FA Cup and Ginola coming off the bench against Arsenal, I think his first appearance, and hitting the post with a 25 yard free kick. For me, yes, Beckham will be match fit, as I said previously he's someone who's always been in the peak of fitness during his career and he'd easily cope in PL, tbh if he wasn't I don't think he'd bother. I still don't agree he'd be a distraction, of course he'd get the media hype but he's not a player with a big ego that's going to walk in and upset things by any means. His experience will be invaluable to Spurs and his ability should never be questioned.'"
Of course ability should be questioned. Beckham was distinctly average in his last loan spell at Milan, playing in a league that is completely ability-dependent, he shown that he's getting to the age where he can't consistently pull off what he used to. Ronaldinho is the same, only it's his body that has aged more. He has more ability than Beckham at pretty much every aspect of the game, but even that's not enough for him to get by in Europe anymore.
Spurs simply don't need a Beckham, other than experience, he'd bring nothing to them. Whilst I'm not saying he himself would destroy team spirit, the sole attention on him and the mass fest he'd create could be disruptive to a settled squad with good harmony.
To be honest, I hope Spurs do get him, as they'd be better off if they never bothered, IMO.
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"Deary deary me. Beckham has a great long, cross-field ball, but Modric has one of the best short passing games out of any player in the league. In terms of true creativity and vision, only Silva and Fabregas better him IMO. Beckham really isn't so great, he will forever live off his reputation, but he's not been at the top level for years now.'"
Spoken like a true Liverpudlian. Beckham isn't so great? don't be daft, you've got a good knowledge of the game mate and you know better than that. Beckham has always had a wonderful vision passing and shooting (his goal v Wimbledon was stunning vision). His long range passing was/is as good as anyone's in the game, very few could be put ahead of him, his short passing, crossing and free kick's are as good as anyone's who's played the game and still is. Modric is around 25 now? Beckham's ability on the ball at 25 was easily as good and for me, still is. Your ability doesn't just disappear, his legs will not his ability.
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I don't see this with Beckham though, he's not the big ego type. We all know he'll be followed everywhere by the press but that's not his doing, they do that and always will but he's not going to come in and act like the big fish. he'll come in and do a job when required and could there be anyone better for Spurs' youngesters to train with than someone with his ability and experience.
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"Spoken like a true Liverpudlian. Beckham isn't so great? don't be daft, you've got a good knowledge of the game mate and you know better than that. Beckham has always had a wonderful vision passing and shooting (his goal v Wimbledon was stunning vision). His long range passing was/is as good as anyone's in the game, very few could be put ahead of him, his short passing, crossing and free kick's are as good as anyone's who's played the game and still is. Modric is around 25 now? Beckham's ability on the ball at 25 was easily as good and for me, still is. Your ability doesn't just disappear, his legs will not his ability.'"
You say it yourself, he had great ability, he doesn't have that anymore. Ability is one thing, the ability to play the game another. Beckham no longer has the engine to get up and down the flank, or, if he was played in midfield, to be involved in midfield scraps.
Give him the ball to his feet and let him pick a spot, yes, he can do that, but there's so much more to the game than that, aspects that he needs to go with his ability in order to 'work', aspects he no longer has and cannot regain.
Still, even after all of that, I think Modric has a far superior short game to Beckham, Modric is a fabulous player at linking play and crafting things out, I just don't think Beckham can do that.
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Was he not injured when he played for Milan though? or have I dreamt that? He's not going to walk into Spurs' starting lineup but used as an impact player and that could work. Ronaldinho's suffered a lot of off field issues though, he's piled on weight at times, he left Barca because he was always going out on the ale and partying constantly that's had a major impact on his slide in top level football.
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That's obviously something we wouldn't know until/if it happened. I can see where you're coming from but I'd be surprised if Spurs' players let it get too them that much it destroyed their team spirit. I don't see that happening but we'd only know if he signed.
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Possibly but possibly not, we'd only know if he signed on that one.
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| Just as I was utterly delighted that the scousers signed Joe Cole, I'll be delighted if Spurs bring in Beckham on a short term deal.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Just as I was utterly delighted that the scousers signed Joe Cole, I'll be delighted if Spurs bring in Beckham on a short term deal.'"
But to be honest if Spurs do sign Beckham it'll be on a short term contract and they won't be expecting miracles like Liverpool were off Cole. If it works, like it do for us with Donovan, great if not he's only around until early March it'll be no big issue for me.
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"But to be honest if Spurs do sign Beckham it'll be on a short term contract and they won't be expecting miracles like Liverpool were off Cole. If it works, like it do for us with Donovan, great if not he's only around until early March it'll be no big issue for me.'"
Tottenham are in 4th place right now, Chelsea are 5th. Tottenham aren't needing a miracle, they aren't expecting Beckham to be better than Messi , any boost that they can get from Beckham would help Spurs and screw us up.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Tottenham are in 4th place right now, Chelsea are 5th. Tottenham aren't needing a miracle, they aren't expecting Beckham to be better than Messi
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I want Beckham to sign for Spurs.'"
That's exactly what I was saying Spurs don't need a miracle so if Beckham signs and it doesn't work out it's not loss and won't leave a massive impact on them whereas when Liverpool signed Cole they were relying on him for big things and he hasn't delivered.
These short term loan deals can work, it did for us.
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| [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jan/04/david-beckham-la-galaxy-tottenham-hotspurDecent blog about Beckham and his questionable contribution to LA Galaxy[/url.
I'd say it's about time he gave something back to his actual employers.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"
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| Quote ="Robbie Rotten"If I were a Spurs fan, I wouldn't want Beckham anywhere near my side. Nowhere near good enough for where Spurs want to be, a disturbingly odd signing.'"
I am a Spurs fan and would welcome Becks with open arms and 'Arry could get the best out of an experienced campaigner plus the inspiration and boost he would give the younger lads at the club - commercially brilliant move by The Y*ds with Mr Levy just thinking about all those lovely shirt sales etc...
Game wise,to say he is as good a passer as Luca or big Tom is a joke - for the two months he could transform the team into a top-four cert rather than possible top four,if he is match (Premiership) fit
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You sign Beckham for cameos and his apparent influence as a professional. He will also raise the profile of your club ten-fold. But he also brings a circus with him. Swings and roundabouts.
He wouldn't get into a fully fit Spurs team. However to suggest that Tom Huddlestone is a better passer of the ball than him is the kind of comic genius not seen on these shores since Eric Morecombe passed away. RIP Eric, your spirit lives on on RL Fans.
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| Quote ="Asim"[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/jan/04/david-beckham-la-galaxy-tottenham-hotspurDecent blog about Beckham and his questionable contribution to LA Galaxy[/url.
I'd say it's about time he gave something back to his actual employers.'"
What an utterly biased blog. My favourite line "a temporary boost in shirt sales". Brilliant. Beckhams being there has brought LA Galaxy unprecedented media attention which is exactly what they wanted. Would the New York Red Bulls be attracting Henry if it wasn't for Beckham? I doubt it.
On the loan deals, what is best for the MLS and LA Galaxy - a megastar who's past it, or a megastar who is a current England international? Capello said that if he was to be picked for England he'd have to prove he can still hack it in Europe.
Spurs signing him would be tremendous for them, regardless of what anyone says. He wouldn't start every game, but he would give them a tremendous option off the bench.
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| I've always thought the reaction to Beckham has been far too extreme, both ways. He's never been as good or deserving in the praise that he gets, nor has he deserved the criticism that has sometimes come his way.
I think he would be a useful addition to Spurs squad, giving them options off the bench and an extra body for the cup games. He dosnt seem to have such an ego that he would expected to start every week.
But if I were Redknapp I'd only sign him if he stayed to the end of the season. Just signing him for a few weeks doesnt seem to make much sense. If he does well it would create a void when he left. If he were to have a couple of quiet games early on there wouldnt be much incentive to persist with him.
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| Quote ="Cibaman":5yoc3e9cI've always thought the reaction to Beckham has been far too extreme, both ways. He's never been as good or deserving in the praise that he gets, nor has he deserved the criticism that has sometimes come his way
yes,i've always felt the same about him - when Hoddle first put him in the England squad I thought he (Hoddle = God) was completely bonkers ! I was soon eating humble pie..........
What Becks has lacked in ability he has more than made up for in sheer hard work IMO
maybe Bentley could have a few training sessions with him,if he stays beyond the window - the ability is there I believe,somewhere...
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