Bad bad night.

Hope you have not jinxed Webby especially wit Cru going and Wrexham on the brink he could be the only professional sportsman in North Wales

Probably...

Think Ive backed 8 consecutive losers on the darts now !

Just watching the European Championships on ITV4, first time I turned over, surprise surprise, it's Taylors match. Playing John Michels from Greece. Listening to Stuart Pyke on commentary, he's making this guy out to be some kind of retard.

"OH MY GOD, THIS GUY HAS JUST HIT A 180 AGAINST THE POWER!". Deary me today.

Started well though, 102 checkout and broke lard's throw. Pyke making out that the 102 was the biggest checkout of this guys career. Tosser.

He will struggle to get Sid Waddell from the Chief Exec position at the Phil Taylor Fan Club though.

I'm dreading you tipping my bet for the title to win tonight

Ah, Sid Waddell.

The reason I'll turn over to something else when Taylor's on.

Don't forget Dave Clark. If Taylor was made of chocolate, Clark would be sucking his knob 24 hours a day.

And yet Sid is one of the reasons darts got a chance on the telly.

Doesn't mean people have to agree with everything he says though. I like Sid and his knowledge of darts is brilliant but when Taylor's on it's just love fest.

True mate.What I was trying to point out was he has done a lot for promoting darts.I know he goes o.t.t.,but that is him,he won`t change.Nobody can accuse him of being boring.

Anybody who shows a bit of passion for the game,Sid,Stevo, etc seem to get lambasted.

I think he gets lambasted for his obsession with Taylor, we all know how good Taylor is and what he can do but his obsession with him and the way he talks when he's playing is frustrating. Personally I prefer it when Sid isn't commentating on Taylor. I love the way Sid is, his passion for darts is brilliant, he's put it on the map and is synonomous with it now it's just when he talks about Taylor it's a little ott.

He certainly isn't boring you're right there, I don't think we'd want him to change. From what I've seen on this board, he's being criticised for the way he commentates when Taylor plays and I can see where they're coming from.

Great performance from Scott Waites at Hull, looks in fine form to defend his crown at Wolverhampton and take away some more of the PDC's money.

He looked good yesterday but I'm not sure he'll be able to win the GSOD again.

I don't see why not. He is an extremely good darts player, and would be a great asset to the PDC.

Agree 100% look how well Chisnall. Webster, Whitlock etc have done since switching not to mention Anderson people dismiss the BDO too easily and very few players have not gone through it to a decent level and succeeded in the PDC though with them having set up the Under 21 contests that should change in future years.

Chisnall has been crap.

He's a decent player but could be really good if he moved to the PDC, I don't think he'll play well enough to defend his title and I'm sceptical about players retaining title's the year after in general (Taylor aside).

Used to play in our local league did Scott, stopped just before his GSOD win last year. Shame, wanted revenge for the 3-0 massacring I got!



On a seperate note, our Grand Prix tickets came t'other day!

Think I read somewhere after his GSOD win that his wife was ill and so he chose to stay in the BDO rather than move to the PDC

I always believed that was the reason also and if thats the case to maintain the level of play he has done is a credit to him. I am sure he will move over sometime and perhaps waiting for the decline of the likes of Taylor and Barney before moving is not such a bad thing.

Sad to hear Sid has been diagnosed with cancer, starting treatment so it could be a while before we hear him on the commentary team again. All the best for a speedy recovery

Some tasty 1st round games in the world grand prix! the top half of the draw is very interesting!

Rotten news,love him or hate him,we must all surely wish him a 100% recovery.