I must admit it's a unique one

No, I cannot imagine anyone doing that. The shame, the shame.

Quote ="Karlos13"More pre season aggro: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-kit.html '" Surprised they didn't chuck darts in his eye or chuck sh*t over him, or get him shoved in an ambulance and rock it stupid. Didn't know that it would be the scouse mentality spreading there too

Quote ="Karlos13"More pre season aggro: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-kit.html '" Surprised they didn't chuck darts in his eye or chuck sh*t over him, or get him shoved in an ambulance and rock it stupid. Didn't know that it would be the scouse mentality spreading there too

Anyone watching the women's world cup fi....sorry...I can't do it. Ha ha ha. As if anyone would watch that drivel.

Quote ="Karlos13"More pre season aggro: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-kit.html '" Who cares? They're all just glory hunting w@nkers and part of the reason why football is the way it is these days.

Quote ="Karlos13"More pre season aggro: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-kit.html '" Who cares? They're all just glory hunting w@nkers and part of the reason why football is the way it is these days.

Spot on.....Nothing more embarrassing than all these people in the Far East acting as if they have any affinity with all these European clubs.

Should stick to origami or ping pong....

Brazil miss all 4 of their shoot-out penalties to go out of the Copa America to Paraguay.

Or support teams in their own league.

Larissa Riqueleme will be pleased......

There's definitely going to be GHW among them, and it is a difficult thing for the English to accept foreign supporters without suspicion, but there are good reasons to follow English football.

Football is a fairly new sport in many of the expanding countries. But football is an awesome sport, and the Premier League one of the best leagues, if not the best, so obviously someone who is just starting watching the sport in Asia is going to be attracted to the best the sport has to offer.

On the other side, I have chatted with an American who was wearing a Chelsea shirt. He was pretty much just a new soccer fan who chose the shirt just because he liked the colour. It was a choice between a Chelsea shirt or a Liverpool shirt, and the blue won. There's no way that kind of support tallies with a "real" supporter, but it doesn't mean he won't become a real supporter over time.

I was in Morocco a couple of weeks ago and I was actually ranting over breakfast about the fact that about 75% of young men seemed to be wearing foreign football shirts, usually Barcelona or Real Madrid, and I got angry when the bloke working the desk at my hotel turned up in a Madrid shirt, the day after he'd been wearing a Barcelona one! I didn't see any kind of local teams shirt in my whole week there.

My opinion on this somewhat softened later that day however, when I was sat having lunch and a local wearing a Bradford City shirt wandered past!

It was the same when I went to Tunisia in 2005, there was allsorts of football shirts(knock-offs mainly) from all around the world apart from Tunisian ones, then one day a local walked past with the old purple Leeds Rhinos shirt on from the late 90's/early 2000's. Even the Leeds fans didn't bother buying that one so no idea where he got it from

I love watching Barcelona play but am not a Barca fan and I don't cheer them and I wouldn't go wild if I ever saw them. Yes I'd wear a Barca shirt, but I wouldn't berate someone for wearing a Madrid one as I have no affiliation to Barca whatsoever. I was born and live in Wigan and so I support Wigan.

I have zero interest in American sports, even though I live in the US. But in this Other Sports forum there are threads about MLB, the NFL and the NBA. Most of the people who like these sports pick teams to support. While their support doesn't seem to come close to the way they support English football and RL teams, it is a similar type of support.

Should these people be making do with the pale English imitations as well?

Even though England is very well served with mature sports and top level clubs, there is still support for sports and teams from other countries. I just don't see anything wrong with foreign countries getting behind the English PL because the game is a great one. Even some American's who I've talked to who like "soccer" say they cannot watch the MLS when they know it is such an inferior product compared to to major European leagues.

I watch other sports and 'follow' teams in them, but I don't go crazy in the same way as I'm not really a 'supporter'

When I was in England I was 100% following Chelsea and the Rhinos. TBH with the time that they consumed I cannot really see why you'd even bother to even follow other sports.

But it's your choice to follow other sports, even though you have English clubs who you support.

But what if you didn't have English sides. Don't you think that if the British Govt outlawed English sports but allowed access to foreign sports your level of support for teams in other countries would grow?

For me, watching sport is pretty much pointless unless I'm passionately rooting for one side. That's what you want their sporting experience to be like. I'm with them on this. If they're going to support an English side, then they should do so fully.

I have more respect for a genuine Asian football supporter than I do for your following.

I just think that people have vastly different upbringings. As a working class boy, football and RL were a massive part of my life growing up. Those sports are part of me. An English middle class kid might not be brought up to like sports. But that doesn't mean that they should be excluded from the sport because they got interested in the 20's rather than when they were young kids.

I'm all for genuine support, however it comes about. There will be people born in the shadow of Anfield who merely follow Liverpool FC, they won't feel it in their bones. But there will be kids in Mumbai and Shanghai who do feel total support for LFC. I'd much rather watch a game with the passionate supporter from Shanghai than I would be the follower from Liverpool.

Two great posts LGJM. Supporting a club is entirely subjective. In some instances it is neither practical nor possible to attend sporting matches of, say, a baseball team for most UK citizens. I might get a bigger thrill from seeing Saints win but that doesn't mean I don't get similar levels of joy when supporting City or the Cincinnati Reds (more so the latter because after RL, baseball is my favourite sport to watch). When I fell in love with baseball the Reds were the first team I went to see live and whilst I could never claim to be the greatest Reds fan around I have had moments of euphoria watching Reds games on MLB TV.

I enjoy having somebody to cheer for and after making that choice, if I have what I feel is a strong connection for that team, it's relatively easy to get excited or enjoy their games. If you don't get that same feeling it's just how you are. It doesn't mean others can't experience it because many do and often for different reasons.

A sport we don't have over here is a different story though.

If LGJM's friends went watching the MLS then maybe the league would grow and become better rather than watching Chelsea in a pub which ups TV deals, player wages, ticket prices and stops real Chelsea fans from going.

I'm not saying they can't support Liverpool in Asia, (granted I don't understand it) but maybe they should support a side in their league and watch them with the same passion to improve the game in said Country.

Goodbye Tevez, you'll be sorely missed. One less munich related song for City to sing.

A nice sentiment.

It’s a shame he is going but I am glad in a way as the whole ‘soap opera’ was becoming tiresome. I doubt he will say anything positive about Mancini but IMO he has helped to make Tevez the player he is. Tevez is a better player now than when he was at United.

TBH I have thought for a while now that his desire to move was related to the fact that he wanted to be closer to his family. Those who have children will be able to understand why. Some Blues appear to be bitter about it. My opinion is that if a player wants to leave, they should not have to justify it. Although requesting a transfer just before the January transfer was not ideal.

I expect his economic rights to be purchased by Kia J just before a final big move to Europe in a couple of years. Kia J has found gambling to be a particularly expensive hobby.


Maybe the signing of Aguero and Sneidjer (or Nasri - who is my preferred option) will help to ease the pain.

I think losing one of the leagues best players is a bit of a shame. It's funny cause it's City, but the past few years we've seen players like Ronaldo, Alonso, Mascherano and Albert Riera leave and I think the premier league needs more world stars.

Are City trying to rival Spurs for the largest number of midfielders in a squad?

Nice sarcasm at the end there...

Judging by the reception he received on arrival in Turkey, you'd think he was a world star.

I think Liverpool have that title sorted. Bus tour booked for Tuesday apparently.

I'll always have a soft spot for Tevez, regardless of what the fact he left United for city. His autobiography will be interesting, may explain Gary Neville's reaction when Tevez got stick on his return to OT with his new team...